Canada General Discussion (2019-)

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https://newsinteractives.cbc.ca/elections/poll-tracker/canada/

Intersting the Cons continue to hold a narrow lead in the PV (about 2%) while the Libs hold a slight edge in the seat count. If this happens, it would be the first time since 1979 (I believe) that the party that won the PV did not become the leading party in parliament.

Collapse in Ontario has absolutely been killing the Cons though. I can't see them gaining too many additional seats in the west at this point, so a breakthrough is going to have to occur at some point if a win is feasible. There are only two candidates over the last 40 years that have won when losing the PV vote in Ontario (Harper 06 and Mulroney in 88), and only one candidate has lost the seat count in that province and still won the election (Harper again in 2006). Odds are stacked against Scheer at this point in time.

It probably will be a hung parliament with Libs, Green and NDP forming a unstable coalition and there probably will be another election in 2021 ish.

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Hopefully the pipeline gets built

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He managed to whip his caucus on the conversion therapy bill, but it seems a good chunk of Tory voters didn't appreciate that, in addition to his general moderating approach (and the fact that it didn't win them the election).

I struggle to see who could replace him. If he so chooses, Poilievre could sink O'Toole singlehandedly. In effect, Pierre Poilievre is the spiritual leader of the CPC, but I get the sense that Poilievre would rather play kingmaker than actually go for the big job, because he probably realizes that the persona he's built over his career is unlikely to go over well in a general. No other member of the CPC caucus seems particularly notable - Lisa Raitt could have been a good leader, but that ship has sailed.

Outside caucus, honestly, it feels like Doug Ford is the closest thing to a natural CPC leader. But between his habit of constantly making the news for all the wrong reasons, having a provincial election ahead of him, and not speaking French, he's not an option. Honestly, O'Toole might stay on just by default which does not speak well to the health of the conservative movement in this country.

Edit: I would add that Gerard Deltell and Alain Rayes are good options from Quebec, but a Francophone Quebecer is unlikely to win the CPC leadership, and I think they realize that.

This might be the best case scenario for the Liberals. Erin O'Toole is now both weakened, but not too weak that his leadership is in danger. As long as this is the case, the Conservative identity crisis will drag on, and allow the Liberals to govern as if they had a majority.

Of course, Liberals governing with a majority, or if they had a majority, for an extended period inevitably leads to their trademark Natural Governing Party arrogance, but that's another issue.

It's hard to see how the CPC could win an election right now, but all governing parties are unbeatable until they're beaten. I think it's fair to say that, barring a motion of non-confidence (which would require the NDP to feel bullish in order to pass), there won't be an election anytime soon. The 2021 election showed that all four recognized parties have weaknesses. The Grits and the Bloc had to fight tooth-and-nail to hold onto their support base, while the Tories and NDP can't seem to expand beyond theirs. But time is to O'Toole's advantage. If he can quash internal dissent and assert his authority, he will get to go against either a jaded Trudeau, or a new Liberal leader who will have her own problems to sort out.

When in Harper's tenure did it really look like the Tories could be defeated in a general election.

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Great News !! Poillievre For Leader

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Erin O'Toole is officially out. 73 to 45.

RIP Conservative Party. Reform Harper Era Toryism is back.

FTFY

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Keep this in mind : Canadian conservatives tend to do worse when they nominate moderates than they do actual conservatives. The fact is Canada is more like the US than the UK and being “American” isn’t a boogeyman to the voters as the eastern wing of the party thinks it is

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https://twitter.com/brianlilley/status/1493069729124257793?cxt=HHwWgsC41cHAubgpAAAA


But according to leftists , Trump was a fascist for wanting to invoke the insurrection act to stop violent rioting in this nation.


When will we see MSNBC and CNN go on a moral outrage over this

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This is not the country I grew up in.  Another sad day toward Canada's demise.

Wondering if I need to flee the country soon.  Might go to the UK as my mother was born there, and I believe that's the easiest visa short term.  Any other freedom lovers considering leaving?

Honestly, good riddance.

Quebec is the worst province in Canada and it sucks that Quebec independence referendum didn’t pass as Canada would be much better off .

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Impeach Trudeau !!

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Impeach Trudeau !!

There is no impeachment in Canada, which means that you are supporting an unconstitutional coup against the elected Canadian government.

Western Canada should secede and The US should help them become their own nation

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Trudeau is unbelievably based rn

If being a fascist is based then you are right . Hopefully more truckers join in and start a general strike against  this fascist wannabe

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That is blatantly false LMAO.



was it trump who fired his attorney general to hide the corruption of SNC Lavalin?
was it trump who fired lost his finance minister to scandal, his defense minister who had to be demoted
was it trump who invoked the US insurrection act against actual rioters?
was it trump who didnt produce a federal budget for 2 years?
was it trump who brought a terrorist/murderer to his india trip?

Nope all were the cdn turd.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNnVD_tLDzg

These are all valid except maybe the Insurrection Act thing... I don't know anything about that. I'm just saying, Trump was a lot worse. A lot of Trump's fascist attempts were unsuccessful but his intent was clear.

Individual liberty is the most important thing in a democracy and Trudeau has been far worse in that regard

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Anyway Trump during the time there were literal riots in every major city in the country including the capital refused to invoke the insurrection act while Trudeau did it over a far less offense . Now Trudeau is threatening to freeze bank accounts of people who are donating to the truckers so yah that’s far more fascist .

And yes I’d vote for Trump  easily if the option was him and Trudeau .

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That is blatantly false LMAO.



was it trump who fired his attorney general to hide the corruption of SNC Lavalin?
was it trump who fired lost his finance minister to scandal, his defense minister who had to be demoted
was it trump who invoked the US insurrection act against actual rioters?
was it trump who didnt produce a federal budget for 2 years?
was it trump who brought a terrorist/murderer to his india trip?

Nope all were the cdn turd.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNnVD_tLDzg

1. Every single country in the world does protect its multinationals by making deals. By refusing to make a deal, Wilson-Raybauld (one of the worst Attorney General ever) put her ego over her job. The media only got upset because they can't accept that Quebec has a successful business instead of Bay Street.
2. Trump had to replace way more Cabinet members than Trudeau.
5. We have no need for Hindu nationalists (and their lies and anti-Sikh racism) in Canada.

Canada has much less need for French Nationalists who have actually ruined Canada .

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Tell me , what would be your reaction if Trump had fried Mueller

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https://mobile.twitter.com/KyleKulinski/status/1493672634181115906?ref_src=twsrc...

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Red States should fine any banks that go along with this . It’s time to take on these authoritarian actions head on

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The National Assembly has adopted a unanimous motion asking the federal government not to apply the Emergency Act on Quebec territory.

A majority of Premiers have made comments not really agreeing with the federal government move. Ontario and BC Premiers seem to support it.

Why the hell do they keep getting special treatment

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They are going to end up barring people from banking for life, without due process
https://twitter.com/drrollergator/status/1493738584884404227?s=20&t=owkJARet...

There should be a general strike in Canada

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okay fk it based on the above post I now support a J6 style run for it. This is insanity. It is none of their damn business where people spend their money

A general strike is better , as what you are proposing would just  discredit the opposition to Trudeau and give him justification to go farther .

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https://twitter.com/RebelNewsOnline/status/1494115333136867329


Trudeau is a fascist

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https://mobile.twitter.com/markstrahl/status/1495472037438967808?ref_src=twsrc%5...

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https://mobile.twitter.com/markstrahl/status/1495472037438967808?ref_src=twsrc%5...

The government said only 76 accounts were frozen, so I strongly doubt Briane's story or even her existence.

Lol at trusting a government that is clearly fascist

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https://mobile.twitter.com/markstrahl/status/1495472037438967808?ref_src=twsrc%5...

The government said only 76 accounts were frozen, so I strongly doubt Briane's story or even her existence.

Lol at trusting a government that is clearly fascist

Please read a dictionnary, fascist doesn't mean something you don't like.

Ok fine maybe I’ll use authoritarian with no regard for democratic norms or individual rights instead . That doenst make it better 

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https://twitter.com/anthonyfurey/status/1495804604486987777?s=21


So Orwellian