in your opinion, is the Republican Party too Islamophobic?

[RINO Tom]

Well, I think being "Islamophobic" is - by definition - a bad thing, so I'm obviously not going to be voting for option 2.  However, I am not convinced that the current GOP is overly Islamophobic so much as some in the Democratic Party are hellbent on painting it that way and therefore take almost comical steps to avoid seeming even the least bit unsympathetic to radical Muslims, which is really dumb.  There are certainly Islamophobes in the GOP ranks, but party policy is not "Islamophobic."

[RINO Tom]

Yes, but this problem predates Trump to Dubya and the "sane" GOP circa 2007.

True, but you're only willing to criticize those who came before Trump, while Trump shows no signs of trying to correct any problem the GOP had with tolerance.

[RINO Tom]

I don't think opposing radical Islam is a problem for the West. Right behind Moscow threatening the West's freedom is the radical Islamic problem. The problem is the GOP doesnt have a comprehensive solution to the problem.

Build a wall, repeal Obamacare, abolish the IRS.

I meant to the radical Islam problem.

If we had a flat tax, we could have 4% annual economic growth. Supply-side economics solves all problems. Ronald Reagan defeated the Soviet Union through tax cuts, there is no reason why we can't do the same against radical Islam.

As a Republican why are you mocking supporters of Reaganomics

A good troll uses what he has at his disposal.

[RINO Tom]

I don't think opposing radical Islam is a problem for the West. Right behind Moscow threatening the West's freedom is the radical Islamic problem. The problem is the GOP doesnt have a comprehensive solution to the problem.

Build a wall, repeal Obamacare, abolish the IRS.

I meant to the radical Islam problem.

If we had a flat tax, we could have 4% annual economic growth. Supply-side economics solves all problems. Ronald Reagan defeated the Soviet Union through tax cuts, there is no reason why we can't do the same against radical Islam.

As a Republican why are you mocking supporters of Reaganomics

Santander isn't wrong, you know? Read Rothbard's critique of Reagan.

POPULISM!!!!!

[RINO Tom]

That's been the case even before Trump, especially during the Bush presidency. The disturbing hatred of everything foreign (be it Muslims, Russians, Germans, or whoever) is basically a sign of their fascism and racism which they aren't even trying to hide. Of course this is true regardless of political party and especially for #NeverTrump Republicans, who had no problem bombing brown people when they were in power but now act like they're holding the moral high ground.

Jesus, dude.

[RINO Tom]

That's been the case even before Trump, especially during the Bush presidency. The disturbing hatred of everything foreign (be it Muslims, Russians, Germans, or whoever) is basically a sign of their fascism and racism which they aren't even trying to hide. Of course this is true regardless of political party and especially for #NeverTrump Republicans, who had no problem bombing brown people when they were in power but now act like they're holding the moral high ground.

Jesus, dude.

Whether or not you feel Bush foreign policy was justified, he's not wrong about the hypocrisy #NeverTrump Republicans.

I don't think their issue with Trump was his foreign policy mostly.  JMO.  And, depending on whether or not you feel Bush foreign policy was justified (I do), that would DRASTICALLY affect whether or not you think labeling it as, "bombing brown people" was appropriate.

[RINO Tom]

How are we racist? W backed the war in Iraq to spread democracy as an answer to totalitarianism.

I'm sure that was the reason for the war. Why didn't he spread democracy in Saudi Arabia, then? Seriously, the foreign policy of the US isn't guided by human rights. Do you think killing hundreds of thousands of people, including many Americans, brings people democracy? Also look what happened in Lybia after the West intervened.

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And that is relevant because...? This is just as ridiculous as the "I have Black friends, therefore I can't be a racist" argument.

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Actions matter more than words. And regardless, just because Trump is awful when it comes to this issue doesn't make Bush (whose rhetoric was incredibly divisive, btw) some kind of hero or "sane" Republican.

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Let's not debate which things I would call you in real life, okay? I will be honest with you... I find most of your views to be extremely awful, except when it comes to a few social issues like abortion, and there are some Democrats on this forum who are probably closer to me ideologically than you. We're never going to agree, so I'm not sure why you keep responding to me, though? These debates are pointless. I'd love to debate this with you IRL, but on a forum like this it's just a waste of time.

Yet Cal is the one who you think will be a Democrat soon?  Haha ... say what you want about this so-called "Fairfax County" strain in the Democratic Party, but NOBODY in that shltshow is endorsing Reaganomics, and nobody ever will.

[RINO Tom]

Yet Cal is the one who you think will be a Democrat soon?

Trust me, I will never be a Democrat in my life, barring some really unforeseen events. I'm way closer to the Republican Party and view them as a lesser of two evils, but yeah... there's a reason I changed my avatar from blue to orange.

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Huh, I wasn't even making that point?  Plus, it's not as if we don't agree on many things as well.

I just was making the point that Cal is the most loyal Reaganomics defender on this forum, and there will never be a place for him in a Democratic Party that even kind of resembles today's.