Democratic Wild Western Tuesday results thread

[IceSpear]

Clinton up big in AZ early vote for Maricopa County

Hillary Clinton 62.0% 129,718
Bernie Sanders 35.4% 74,109
All Others 2.5% 5,296
Precincts Reporting 17.9%
Total Votes 197,350

Dominating!

[IceSpear]

Why is the media still pretending like this is a race?

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Sounds like Bernie's going all the way to California.

I don't think anyone actually expects him to drop out. I'm on the record saying he has the right to stay in as long as he likes. But the tone needs to change, he isn't winning the nomination and he needs to start helping the progressive movement in November, that includes actively raising money for campaigns other than his own and campaigning for Democrats. Him staying in can be a big positive, but still treating it like a genuinely competitive primary is a bad idea.

He's still trying to win. I imagine he'll help like-minded Democrats, like Zephyr Teachout.  Although I'm sure the grassroots is already doing a lot for her.

He might be, that'll help the delegate margin at the end, but it won't get him the win. Math is real, just as it was for Hillary in 08, by the end of February the writing was on the wall. Regardless of good states coming, the margin couldn't be overcome. This is even more emphatic.

 

The 2008 primary had most of the states vote by the end of February. Now only half the delegates have been chosen, and those have included all of Hillary's best states.

And Bernie is trailing by 3x what Hillary ever did. And last time I checked, NY was one of her best states.

[IceSpear]

Sounds like Bernie's going all the way to California.

I don't think anyone actually expects him to drop out. I'm on the record saying he has the right to stay in as long as he likes. But the tone needs to change, he isn't winning the nomination and he needs to start helping the progressive movement in November, that includes actively raising money for campaigns other than his own and campaigning for Democrats. Him staying in can be a big positive, but still treating it like a genuinely competitive primary is a bad idea.

He's still trying to win. I imagine he'll help like-minded Democrats, like Zephyr Teachout.  Although I'm sure the grassroots is already doing a lot for her.

He might be, that'll help the delegate margin at the end, but it won't get him the win. Math is real, just as it was for Hillary in 08, by the end of February the writing was on the wall. Regardless of good states coming, the margin couldn't be overcome. This is even more emphatic.

Yet no one questioned Clinton for taking it to the end after it was pretty much over after Obama went on his run in February and it was obviously over. I know it's over, but I think it would help everyone if every contest is contested this cycle. It totally helped in 08 by building an infrastructure for Obama.

No one? Countless people were shrieking at the top of her lungs for her to drop out as soon as she lost Iowa. lol

Probably some of the same people that are now insisting Sanders should take it to the convention.

[IceSpear]

Is Idaho ever going to come in?

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Lol Lewis County

Sanders lost it by one vote.

FF county!!!

[IceSpear]

Sanders won 100% of the vote in Clark County. Has that happened anywhere else?

[IceSpear]

I'm really impressed with Sanders' margins tonight. Obviously he was going to win both states, but damn. Even his AZ isn't bad considering what was being expected by some. Despite the shellacking, he likely comes out with more delegates tonight...yes, I know, negligible in terms of gains, but the fact that he didn't lose ground given what was expected is commendable.

Who predicted Hillary would win AZ by more than 20 points?

Idaho didn't particularly surprise me, but Utah did. I thought she'd at least crack 30% there.

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If Bernie couldn't win an open primary in OH, it's very unlikely he'd win a closed primary in PA.

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Hillary really cleaned up with the Native American vote. She crushed it in Apache and Navajo. I actually expected Sanders to do well with them.

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If Bernie couldn't win an open primary in OH, it's very unlikely he'd win a closed primary in PA.

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Will be interesting to see what happens in Western PA.

That sounds extremely unlikely to me. It's an awfully big stretch to say a group that routinely votes 65-75% for Sanders being excluded is actually a good thing for him. It helped in a very quirky state like Oklahoma that has massive amounts of Dixiecrats who wanted to vote for Trump. It may help him a bit in Western PA, but certainly not enough to counteract the massive margin he'd inevitably get among indies.

[IceSpear]

If Bernie couldn't win an open primary in OH, it's very unlikely he'd win a closed primary in PA.

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Will be interesting to see what happens in Western PA.

That sounds extremely unlikely to me. It's an awfully big stretch to say a group that routinely votes 65-75% for Sanders being excluded is actually a good thing for him. It helped in a very quirky state like Oklahoma that has massive amounts of Dixiecrats who wanted to vote for Trump. It may help him a bit in Western PA, but certainly not enough to counteract the massive margin he'd inevitably get among indies.

You could very well be right, but we'll have to see. You know when the registration deadline is in PA?

It's the 28th.

[IceSpear]

Sanders won't do any better in NY than he did last night in AZ. It's also a closed primary with more non-white voters, and just so happens to be Clinton's home state.

Isn't Illinois her home state?

Where is this trend coming from of people referring to where someone was born as their "home state"? Literally nobody cares where you were born. Is Kasich's home state PA? Is Cruz's home state Alberta?

[IceSpear]

99% is now in in Utah, and guess what...

#Sandersunder80
#Hillaryover20