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« on: December 11, 2013, 10:47:53 AM »

I honestly don't get how anyone can believe that a ban on handguns will make handguns more difficult to obtain than how difficult it is to obtain marijuana now (that being not difficult at all.)
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« Reply #1 on: December 13, 2013, 11:59:01 AM »

LOL @ the outrage, and ROLF @ the left-wing outrage. Oh no, banning guns, so terrible. Roll Eyes

It's a cultural thing. I don't really understand it either.

You know how drugs are banned, and thus it's SOOOOOO HARD to get drugs now? Oh wait...
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« Reply #2 on: December 13, 2013, 12:19:28 PM »
« Edited: December 13, 2013, 12:21:19 PM by Puddle Splashers »

LOL @ the outrage, and ROLF @ the left-wing outrage. Oh no, banning guns, so terrible. Roll Eyes

It's a cultural thing. I don't really understand it either.

You know how drugs are banned, and thus it's SOOOOOO HARD to get drugs now? Oh wait...

And yet other countries show that guns can be successfully regulated. I don't see why the two are a valid comparison.

There's countries with similar gun ownership rates to the US with far less violent crime: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-25201471

Also considering how many handguns are currently in ownership and circulation banning them now would be closing the barn door after the cows have left.
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« Reply #3 on: December 13, 2013, 06:48:55 PM »

And I stress that eliminating that constitutional right is not equivalent to banning guns. There's no reason why Wyoming and New Jersey should or would choose the same gun policy.

That's not what the question is though.
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« Reply #4 on: December 13, 2013, 11:38:16 PM »

In some hypothetical scenario where I was building a country from scratch? Sure, totally. In America today? No, it would just be a mess. I don't care about the silly notion of "rights" in regards to this issue, I just think it's incredibly impractical. Enforcing it would be a nightmare as guns are already so readily available and so ingrained in the culture that it just wouldn't be feasible, or particularly effective, to institute such a strict ban. I wish that weren't the case, though.

Good post. People talking about this don't take into account just how unfeasible it'd be now and how much social disorder would result BECAUSE of it.
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« Reply #5 on: December 15, 2013, 10:16:50 AM »

Some of those other countries on the list (like Norway and Canada) have quite a few gun owners as well.
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« Reply #6 on: December 15, 2013, 12:25:22 PM »

You can legally buy a handgun in both Norway and Canada (though of course, legal purchase of handguns doesn't have much to do with this, as very few legally obtained handguns are used in crime.) Not to mention Switzerland which actually has comparable gun ownership rates to the US.
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