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« on: October 09, 2013, 11:12:31 PM »

Yes there are people that seem to feel this way. Any guy who says he's circumcised and it doesn't bug them appalls them. I once had someone flip out on me on DU for saying that (it was a woman actually)

The fact is probably at least 90% of guys who are circumcised do not care either way. To some people this is some massive problem, basically outrage at the lack of outrage.
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I spent the winter writing songs about getting better
BRTD
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« Reply #1 on: October 10, 2013, 02:53:28 PM »

Not something I've come across coming from the land of intact foreskins. I have however had people be offended at my own belief that when performed on a person who is unable to consent that I consider it to be an act of mutilation even when we seem to share common ground on severed labias, and piercing the ears of infants.

So are you bothered by that I don't think I'm mutilated and don't care either way about this? Because that's what I'm referring to.

I don't believe in making circumcized people feel inferior. Whatever option that is. I don't think I'd do it to my kid, but the subtext of this discussion always gets too close to "haha, you're circumcized—enjoy (if you can)!"

That's a good point and probably why people can be rather defensive about this.
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« Reply #2 on: October 10, 2013, 11:40:49 PM »

The internet's obsession with this subject really needs to DIAF.

I tend to agree, but please note it's the anti- crowd who makes the big fuss. I think Hagrid's point is the most valid, making points that it's not medically necessary with modern hygenic standards and whatnot would go much further than screaming about mutilation and making absurd hyperbolic comparisons to female genital mutilation. I think the anti- crowd (especially since many are foreigners) don't realize how much cut males might take offense to that and cause them to get defensive, which is part of the reason why there hasn't been much progress on this in their direction non-internet as there could've been. What I find most interesting is whenever this topic and the fuss comes up on DU it's mostly women raising the giant fuss (which kind of makes sense, since as I noted about 90% of circumscized males don't care and don't see it as a big issue), the most amusing being the radical feminist contingent who believe it or not have still managed to come up with arguments as to why circumcision is yet another nefarious tool of the patriarchy and leads to oppression of women and rape*.

*The last bit isn't an exaggeration, someone did once try to argue using some laughable pseudo-science and analysis of statistics that makes J. J.'s look solid to argue that circumcision leads to an increase in rape. After being shot down even by some of the anti-folks she simply edited all her posts in that thread to only periods and never spoke of it again. Too bad for her DU still allows people to check the history and view previous edited away posts, meaning her inanity will never disappear.

But this does bring up a valid point, you go to wonder why when arguments like THAT are used a lot of people elect not to take the anti-circumcision crowd seriously...
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