Israel-Gaza war
       |           

Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
May 19, 2024, 03:45:00 AM
News: Election Simulator 2.0 Released. Senate/Gubernatorial maps, proportional electoral votes, and more - Read more

  Talk Elections
  General Politics
  International General Discussion (Moderators: afleitch, Hash)
  Israel-Gaza war
« previous next »
Thread note
MODERATOR WARNING: Any kind of inappropriate posts, including support for indiscriminate killing of civilians, and severe personal attacks against other posters will not be tolerated.


Pages: 1 ... 281 282 283 284 285 [286] 287 288 289 290 291 ... 294
Author Topic: Israel-Gaza war  (Read 206924 times)
Frodo
Atlas Star
*****
Posts: 24,635
United States


WWW Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #7125 on: May 05, 2024, 08:29:56 PM »



Yay?

It was a terrible deal



This has to be a very bad joke.
Logged
Silent Hunter
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 9,354
United Kingdom


WWW Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #7126 on: May 06, 2024, 01:23:04 AM »

Israel have instead issued evacuation orders for Eastern Rafah.
Logged
Horus
Sheliak5
Atlas Icon
*****
Posts: 11,924
United States


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #7127 on: May 06, 2024, 02:12:29 AM »



Yay?

It was a terrible deal


Based based based based based

It won't happen, the Israelis want more blood. A lot more.
Logged
Horus
Sheliak5
Atlas Icon
*****
Posts: 11,924
United States


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #7128 on: May 06, 2024, 03:00:10 AM »

Bibi continues to insult America after we just gave him tens of billions.

Logged
Agafin
Jr. Member
***
Posts: 914
Cameroon


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #7129 on: May 06, 2024, 04:23:35 AM »

Bibi should invade Rafah and fast. Time is running out.
Logged
Never Made it to Graceland
Crane
Atlas Politician
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 9,715
Israel


Political Matrix
E: -8.16, S: 3.22

P

Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #7130 on: May 06, 2024, 10:59:39 AM »

This is all the more reason to not attack Gaza.

Of course this isn’t really about Hamas or the hostages, it’s about reversing what Israel did in 2005 and going even further.

Well, Israel wouldn't have attacked Gaza, if Hamas hadn't decided to start a war on 10/7.

Palestine doesn't get immunity from the consequences of their attacks just because they're weak and vulnerable.  Being so terrible at protecting your own people that any war you start will inevitably result in lots of them dying is not the invincibility star from super mario bros.

So Palestinian civilians deserve to die because of Hamas?
Logged
GeneralMacArthur
Atlas Icon
*****
Posts: 11,039
United States


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #7131 on: May 06, 2024, 11:46:15 AM »

Bibi continues to insult America after we just gave him tens of billions.

If you look in the tweet replies, it seems like Ian Bremmer messed this up and he's digging in because that's what professional journalists on social media do these days.  Netanyahu was telling a story about what someone else said to him and Bremmer stripped it of context to make it sound like this was Netanyahu saying this.  Furthermore people are saying (I have no clue either way) that the Hebrew Bibi used actually refers to "the nations" rather than "the gentiles" and Bremmer apparently based his tweet solely on the YouTube translated transcript.
Logged
Stand With Israel. Crush Hamas
Ray Goldfield
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 7,957


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #7132 on: May 06, 2024, 11:46:36 AM »

This is all the more reason to not attack Gaza.

Of course this isn’t really about Hamas or the hostages, it’s about reversing what Israel did in 2005 and going even further.

Well, Israel wouldn't have attacked Gaza, if Hamas hadn't decided to start a war on 10/7.

Palestine doesn't get immunity from the consequences of their attacks just because they're weak and vulnerable.  Being so terrible at protecting your own people that any war you start will inevitably result in lots of them dying is not the invincibility star from super mario bros.

So Palestinian civilians deserve to die because of Hamas?

I mean, that's basically what happens in literally ever war started by a barbaric, sadistic government that is willing to sacrifice its people.

The best chance to avoid this catastrophe was a multi-national coalition to invade Gaza and depose Hamasd on day one. Sadly, that window has passed.
Logged
Stand With Israel. Crush Hamas
Ray Goldfield
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 7,957


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #7133 on: May 06, 2024, 11:48:11 AM »

Bibi continues to insult America after we just gave him tens of billions.

If you look in the tweet replies, it seems like Ian Bremmer messed this up and he's digging in because that's what professional journalists on social media do these days.  Netanyahu was telling a story about what someone else said to him and Bremmer stripped it of context to make it sound like this was Netanyahu saying this.  Furthermore people are saying (I have no clue either way) that the Hebrew Bibi used actually refers to "the nations" rather than "the gentiles" and Bremmer apparently based his tweet solely on the YouTube translated transcript.

Yeah, and given that the context is about the Holocaust, it's absolutely right.

Israel can appreciate the aid it gets from its allies without ever allowing itself to fully rely on them. Remember that if Trump had gotten his way in the 2020 primary, it likely would have been Sanders choosing how to assist Israel during this war, potentially with Secretary of State Tlaib whispering in his ear.
Logged
It’s so Joever
Forumlurker161
Atlas Icon
*****
Posts: 15,029


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #7134 on: May 06, 2024, 11:50:00 AM »

Bibi continues to insult America after we just gave him tens of billions.

If you look in the tweet replies, it seems like Ian Bremmer messed this up and he's digging in because that's what professional journalists on social media do these days.  Netanyahu was telling a story about what someone else said to him and Bremmer stripped it of context to make it sound like this was Netanyahu saying this.  Furthermore people are saying (I have no clue either way) that the Hebrew Bibi used actually refers to "the nations" rather than "the gentiles" and Bremmer apparently based his tweet solely on the YouTube translated transcript.
That’s hardly any better. We don’t want a self sufficient Israel and their push for more options in the long run is a bad thing and only is happening because we have supplied them enough to the point they have the ability to think about such things.
Logged
Never Made it to Graceland
Crane
Atlas Politician
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 9,715
Israel


Political Matrix
E: -8.16, S: 3.22

P

Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #7135 on: May 06, 2024, 11:53:22 AM »

This is all the more reason to not attack Gaza.

Of course this isn’t really about Hamas or the hostages, it’s about reversing what Israel did in 2005 and going even further.

Well, Israel wouldn't have attacked Gaza, if Hamas hadn't decided to start a war on 10/7.

Palestine doesn't get immunity from the consequences of their attacks just because they're weak and vulnerable.  Being so terrible at protecting your own people that any war you start will inevitably result in lots of them dying is not the invincibility star from super mario bros.

So Palestinian civilians deserve to die because of Hamas?

I mean, that's basically what happens in literally ever war started by a barbaric, sadistic government that is willing to sacrifice its people.

The best chance to avoid this catastrophe was a multi-national coalition to invade Gaza and depose Hamasd on day one. Sadly, that window has passed.

If Bibi actually cared about Hamas and avoiding any catastrophe, he would have bombed their Qatar mansions out of orbit. But he's said - out loud - that there can be no election during a war. So he wants to prolong it, and his rule, as long and inefficiently as possible and doesn't care how many people get killed.
Bibi and Hamas have a mutually beneficial symbiotic relationship.
Logged
Stand With Israel. Crush Hamas
Ray Goldfield
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 7,957


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #7136 on: May 06, 2024, 11:56:55 AM »

This is all the more reason to not attack Gaza.

Of course this isn’t really about Hamas or the hostages, it’s about reversing what Israel did in 2005 and going even further.

Well, Israel wouldn't have attacked Gaza, if Hamas hadn't decided to start a war on 10/7.

Palestine doesn't get immunity from the consequences of their attacks just because they're weak and vulnerable.  Being so terrible at protecting your own people that any war you start will inevitably result in lots of them dying is not the invincibility star from super mario bros.

So Palestinian civilians deserve to die because of Hamas?

I mean, that's basically what happens in literally ever war started by a barbaric, sadistic government that is willing to sacrifice its people.

The best chance to avoid this catastrophe was a multi-national coalition to invade Gaza and depose Hamasd on day one. Sadly, that window has passed.

If Bibi actually cared about Hamas and avoiding any catastrophe, he would have bombed their Qatar mansions out of orbit. But he's said - out loud - that there can be no election during a war. So he wants to prolong it, and his rule, as long and inefficiently as possible and doesn't care how many people get killed.
Bibi and Hamas have a mutually beneficial symbiotic relationship.

I think that would have been a genuine red line for the Americans - for some reason, we have an overly close relationship with the absolute worst Emirate.
Logged
Horus
Sheliak5
Atlas Icon
*****
Posts: 11,924
United States


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #7137 on: May 06, 2024, 11:58:18 AM »

Bibi continues to insult America after we just gave him tens of billions.

If you look in the tweet replies, it seems like Ian Bremmer messed this up and he's digging in because that's what professional journalists on social media do these days.  Netanyahu was telling a story about what someone else said to him and Bremmer stripped it of context to make it sound like this was Netanyahu saying this.  Furthermore people are saying (I have no clue either way) that the Hebrew Bibi used actually refers to "the nations" rather than "the gentiles" and Bremmer apparently based his tweet solely on the YouTube translated transcript.

Yeah, and given that the context is about the Holocaust, it's absolutely right.

Israel can appreciate the aid it gets from its allies without ever allowing itself to fully rely on them. Remember that if Trump had gotten his way in the 2020 primary, it likely would have been Sanders choosing how to assist Israel during this war, potentially with Secretary of State Tlaib whispering in his ear.

What a glorious timeline that would've been.
Logged
Storr
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 7,291
Moldova, Republic of


WWW Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #7138 on: May 06, 2024, 11:58:48 AM »

"Hamas says it accepts Gaza truce deal, as Israel readies Rafah operation"

https://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-middle-east-68963839?src_origin=BBCS_BBC

"The Hamas leadership says it has accepted the terms of a ceasefire deal in Gaza.

In a statement, the group says it has informed Qatari and Egyptian mediators of its decision.

The finer details are yet to be announced, including how long it will last and what this means for hostages being held in Gaza.

Stay tuned for live updates from us here in London, and analysis from our colleagues in Jerusalem."
Logged
Never Made it to Graceland
Crane
Atlas Politician
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 9,715
Israel


Political Matrix
E: -8.16, S: 3.22

P

Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #7139 on: May 06, 2024, 11:59:44 AM »

This is all the more reason to not attack Gaza.

Of course this isn’t really about Hamas or the hostages, it’s about reversing what Israel did in 2005 and going even further.

Well, Israel wouldn't have attacked Gaza, if Hamas hadn't decided to start a war on 10/7.

Palestine doesn't get immunity from the consequences of their attacks just because they're weak and vulnerable.  Being so terrible at protecting your own people that any war you start will inevitably result in lots of them dying is not the invincibility star from super mario bros.

So Palestinian civilians deserve to die because of Hamas?

I mean, that's basically what happens in literally ever war started by a barbaric, sadistic government that is willing to sacrifice its people.

The best chance to avoid this catastrophe was a multi-national coalition to invade Gaza and depose Hamasd on day one. Sadly, that window has passed.

If Bibi actually cared about Hamas and avoiding any catastrophe, he would have bombed their Qatar mansions out of orbit. But he's said - out loud - that there can be no election during a war. So he wants to prolong it, and his rule, as long and inefficiently as possible and doesn't care how many people get killed.
Bibi and Hamas have a mutually beneficial symbiotic relationship.

I think that would have been a genuine red line for the Americans - for some reason, we have an overly close relationship with the absolute worst Emirate.

You're probably right.
Logged
Silent Hunter
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 9,354
United Kingdom


WWW Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #7140 on: May 06, 2024, 12:00:27 PM »

Bibi continues to insult America after we just gave him tens of billions.

If you look in the tweet replies, it seems like Ian Bremmer messed this up and he's digging in because that's what professional journalists on social media do these days.  Netanyahu was telling a story about what someone else said to him and Bremmer stripped it of context to make it sound like this was Netanyahu saying this.  Furthermore people are saying (I have no clue either way) that the Hebrew Bibi used actually refers to "the nations" rather than "the gentiles" and Bremmer apparently based his tweet solely on the YouTube translated transcript.

The term "Righteous Among The Nations" is the translation of "Chasidei Umot HaOlam". If he used that last word, that's not the same as "goyim", the term used for "Gentiles".
Logged
Stand With Israel. Crush Hamas
Ray Goldfield
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 7,957


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #7141 on: May 06, 2024, 12:05:08 PM »

"Hamas says it accepts Gaza truce deal, as Israel readies Rafah operation"

https://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-middle-east-68963839?src_origin=BBCS_BBC

"The Hamas leadership says it has accepted the terms of a ceasefire deal in Gaza.

In a statement, the group says it has informed Qatari and Egyptian mediators of its decision.

The finer details are yet to be announced, including how long it will last and what this means for hostages being held in Gaza.

Stay tuned for live updates from us here in London, and analysis from our colleagues in Jerusalem."

Great news. Hamas only understands one thing and Israel delivers it. I'm all in favor of Israel giving them whatever temporary peace they want in exchange for the hostages, because Hamas will break the cease-fire eventually and Israel will be ready.
Logged
Silent Hunter
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 9,354
United Kingdom


WWW Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #7142 on: May 06, 2024, 12:07:29 PM »


If Bibi actually cared about Hamas and avoiding any catastrophe, he would have bombed their Qatar mansions out of orbit. But he's said - out loud - that there can be no election during a war. So he wants to prolong it, and his rule, as long and inefficiently as possible and doesn't care how many people get killed.
Bibi and Hamas have a mutually beneficial symbiotic relationship.

As the drone flies, it's a 1,760km journey from Ramon to Doha, most of it over Saudi airspace. The Saudis have some pretty capable air defence.

So too, does Qatar, being one of the richest places on Earth.
Logged
Never Made it to Graceland
Crane
Atlas Politician
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 9,715
Israel


Political Matrix
E: -8.16, S: 3.22

P

Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #7143 on: May 06, 2024, 12:12:50 PM »

If Bibi actually cared about Hamas and avoiding any catastrophe, he would have bombed their Qatar mansions out of orbit. But he's said - out loud - that there can be no election during a war. So he wants to prolong it, and his rule, as long and inefficiently as possible and doesn't care how many people get killed.
Bibi and Hamas have a mutually beneficial symbiotic relationship.

As the drone flies, it's a 1,760km journey from Ramon to Doha, most of it over Saudi airspace. The Saudis have some pretty capable air defence.

So too, does Qatar, being one of the richest places on Earth.

Saudi Arabia allegedly hates Qatar (even though they're just two sides of same the inbred blood money sportswashing Gulf monarchy coin.) For example Al Jazeera was already banned in SA before it was banned in Israel. They should help 'em out.
Logged
Storr
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 7,291
Moldova, Republic of


WWW Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #7144 on: May 06, 2024, 12:16:49 PM »

"Hamas says it accepts Gaza truce deal, as Israel readies Rafah operation"

https://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-middle-east-68963839?src_origin=BBCS_BBC

"The Hamas leadership says it has accepted the terms of a ceasefire deal in Gaza.

In a statement, the group says it has informed Qatari and Egyptian mediators of its decision.

The finer details are yet to be announced, including how long it will last and what this means for hostages being held in Gaza.

Stay tuned for live updates from us here in London, and analysis from our colleagues in Jerusalem."

Great news. Hamas only understands one thing and Israel delivers it. I'm all in favor of Israel giving them whatever temporary peace they want in exchange for the hostages, because Hamas will break the cease-fire eventually and Israel will be ready.

I guess this is Hamas framing the current state of affairs. "We accepted the ceasefire, so it's up to the other side whether fighting continues."

"Hamas official says 'ball now in Israel's court' after group has indicated it would accept the terms of a ceasefire plan.

In a statement published on its official website, Hamas says its leader Ismail Haniyeh conducted a telephone call with the prime minister of Qatar, Sheikh Mohammed bin Abdulrahman Al Thani, and with the Egyptian intelligence minister, Abbas Kamel, and informed them of Hamas's approval of their proposal regarding a ceasefire agreement."
Logged
CumbrianLefty
CumbrianLeftie
Atlas Icon
*****
Posts: 11,994
United Kingdom


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #7145 on: May 06, 2024, 12:36:37 PM »

Israel can appreciate the aid it gets from its allies without ever allowing itself to fully rely on them. Remember that if Trump had gotten his way in the 2020 primary, it likely would have been Sanders choosing how to assist Israel during this war, potentially with Secretary of State Tlaib whispering in his ear.

Absolutely hilarious, are you here all week?
Logged
Former Dean Phillips Supporters for Haley (I guess???!?) 👁️
The Impartial Spectator
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 7,892


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #7146 on: May 06, 2024, 02:15:22 PM »

https://www.twitter.com/Faytuks/status/1787560300331356490

Quote
"The War Cabinet unanimously decided that Israel continues the operation in Rafah"


Israeli invasion of Rafah is now beginning.
Logged
Former Dean Phillips Supporters for Haley (I guess???!?) 👁️
The Impartial Spectator
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 7,892


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #7147 on: May 06, 2024, 02:18:50 PM »

https://www.twitter.com/IsraelRadar_com/status/1787562292390834362

Quote
❗️IDF confirms: Wave of pinpointed strikes launched on Hamas terror targets in Rafah.
Logged
Former Dean Phillips Supporters for Haley (I guess???!?) 👁️
The Impartial Spectator
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 7,892


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #7148 on: May 06, 2024, 02:27:26 PM »

https://www.twitter.com/IDF/status/1787562636839735661

Quote
The IDF is currently conducting targeted strikes against Hamas terror targets in eastern Rafah in southern Gaza.

https://www.twitter.com/Faytuks/status/1787563814893842433

Quote
Al mayadeen is reporting "continuous" and "very" heavy attacks on eastern Rafah
Logged
Open Source Intelligence
Jr. Member
***
Posts: 848
United States
Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #7149 on: May 06, 2024, 02:38:22 PM »

If Bibi actually cared about Hamas and avoiding any catastrophe, he would have bombed their Qatar mansions out of orbit. But he's said - out loud - that there can be no election during a war. So he wants to prolong it, and his rule, as long and inefficiently as possible and doesn't care how many people get killed.
Bibi and Hamas have a mutually beneficial symbiotic relationship.

As the drone flies, it's a 1,760km journey from Ramon to Doha, most of it over Saudi airspace. The Saudis have some pretty capable air defence.

So too, does Qatar, being one of the richest places on Earth.

Saudi Arabia allegedly hates Qatar (even though they're just two sides of same the inbred blood money sportswashing Gulf monarchy coin.) For example Al Jazeera was already banned in SA before it was banned in Israel. They should help 'em out.

Well the Saudis and UAE were allegedly planning to invade Qatar in 2017 until Secretary of State Rex Tillerson found out about it from his oil buddies and squashed it, so yeah, I'd say "hates" is pretty accurate.
Logged
Pages: 1 ... 281 282 283 284 285 [286] 287 288 289 290 291 ... 294  
« previous next »
Jump to:  


Login with username, password and session length

Terms of Service - DMCA Agent and Policy - Privacy Policy and Cookies

Powered by SMF 1.1.21 | SMF © 2015, Simple Machines

Page created in 0.065 seconds with 10 queries.