Swedish election 2010

[Gustaf]

According to a recent SIFO-poll, when asked "Which political party do you trust the most when it comes to jobs and unemployment?" 35% say M and only 25% S.

M: 35%
S:25%
FP:3%
V: 3%
C: 2%
MP: 2%
KD: 1%
Unsure/Don't know: 29%

[DL]

Who in Sweden still votes for the Folkpartiet?? I know that once upon a time they were sort of a small "l" liberal party kind of like the LibDems in the UK and they got support from teachers and professionals etc...plus a bit of vestigial support from the "free-church" members. But now they seemed to have moved off into some xenophobic lala land of opposition to immigration and i don't see much "social liberalism" left there. Why would anyone vote for them when they can just vote Moderate?

[Gustaf]

Oh, they're not anything like FPÖ or even the German FPD on those kind of issues. FP remains firmly the party of Swedish Jews, after all.

Sweden never had any ex-Nazis looking for a pretend-liberal party in which to hide which was the founding principle behind FPÖ.

FP basically takes voters who like their focused profile on education, immigration, education, Europe, education, being pro-US and education. As well as education. 

[Gustaf]

FP is still one of the most pro-immigration parties in Sweden and among the centre-right parties they probably have more immigrant representatives than any of the others.

It was, after all, the then leader of FP who stormed out of a live debate because he refused to sit in the same studio as the leader of the xenophobic New Democracy.

[Swedish Rainbow Capitalist Cheese]

It was, after all, the then leader of FP who stormed out of a live debate because he refused to sit in the same studio as the leader of the xenophobic New Democracy.

From my experience the only party the Sd hates more than S is Fp, especially Westerberg is considered the devil in person. 

[Gustaf]

It was, after all, the then leader of FP who stormed out of a live debate because he refused to sit in the same studio as the leader of the xenophobic New Democracy.

From my experience the only party the Sd hates more than S is Fp, especially Westerberg is considered the devil in person. 

Yeah, it's kind of odd that they of all parties would go for the racist vote since they're actually most removed from SD in terms of their core voters and their ideology.

[Gustaf]

The campaign song of MUF (M's youth organization): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1BxS-C01OMU

Those guys...I think it might be possible to appreciate this even without understanding the lyrics. It's called "Sverige jobbar" which means "Sweden works"

[Swedish Rainbow Capitalist Cheese]

New poll from YouGov in Metro today over young Swedes voting intentions.

Alliance: 40% (+3%)

M: 27% (+1)
Kd: 2% (-1%)
Fp: 7% (+1%)
C: 4% (+2%)

Red-Greens: 34% (-4%)

S: 14% (-2%) LOL
Mp: 13% (-2%)
V: 7% (+/-)

Sweden Democrats: 9% (+3%)
Pirate Party: 4% (-1%)

Other/Don't want to say: 4% (-1%)
Unsure: 9% (+/-)

I have to say, I'm very happy about the older people that vote in this country. Although it would be funny to see the Social Democrats only getting 14% of the vote.
 

[Tender Branson]

New Sifo poll out today:



48.6% for the Government
45.0% for the Opposition

[Tender Branson]

Did the SD use to underpoll in previous elections, like 2002 and 2006 ?

I know they underpolled by quite a bit in the 2009 EP elections (polled 1.5-2%, got 3.5%).

I think 6-7% might be possible for them, if they end the pre-election campaign with about 5%.

[Swedish Rainbow Capitalist Cheese]

Did the SD use to underpoll in previous elections, like 2002 and 2006 ?

Yes, they underpolled both 2002 and 2006 and they're pretty certain to do so again.

The question I'm wondering is weather they'll take away more from the Alliance or the Red-Greens, or if they'll take about as much from both sides.

[Tender Branson]

Did the SD use to underpoll in previous elections, like 2002 and 2006 ?

Yes, they underpolled both 2002 and 2006 and they're pretty certain to do so again.

The question I'm wondering is weather they'll take away more from the Alliance or the Red-Greens, or if they'll take about as much from both sides.

Here in Austria the FPÖ gains mostly at the expense of the SPÖ because of their nationalist and socialist policy proposals that are doing well with lower-income workers and looking at the Youth poll above, I think the SD are also gaining mostly from the Social Democrats and to a lesser extent from the Center-Right parties. Therefore I´d compare the SD more with the FPÖ, rather than the BZÖ - which is more gaining voters of dissatisfied ÖVP folks.

[DL]

Surely there has been some research in Sweden on who the SD voters are and who they used to vote for etc...

[Filuwaúrdjan]

You'd be surprised at how little research there is into far-right voting patterns.

[Swedish Rainbow Capitalist Cheese]

You'd be surprised at how little research there is into far-right voting patterns.

^This is the main problem

But there is also a problem with the reserching that has actually been done on the subject, and that's the fact that a lot of people who vote Sd doesn't admit to it in public. As Tender pointed out, Sd underpolled in 09 by a lot, so we only know where about half of those voters came from.

 

 

[Gustaf]

I think I made a post in this very thread on who SD voters are.

[Gustaf]

Here is what I said: "Sweden Democratic voters tend to be craftsmen and other such people who are culturally working class but economically fairly well-off. They are thus the anti-thesis of the typical V-voters who are poor academics. "

I didn't write it, but the same study pointed out that most SD voters had, once upon a time, been S-voters but many of them had made the transition via other parties.

The core probably consist more of natural S-voters than of natural centre-right voters, but marginal voters right now are probably more centre-right. I know this from applying eyeball econometrics to polls over the last year or so.

I think there is also a bunch of rich, white, racist M-voters in Skåne who belong to the core group of voters in SD.

[DL]

"Sweden Democratic voters tend to be craftsmen and other such people who are culturally working class but economically fairly well-off. They are thus the anti-thesis of the typical V-voters who are poor academics. "

That sounds EXACTLY like the profile of Front National supporters in France. Peoploe wioth working class roots but with low levels of education and who are often shop keepers and tradespeople etc...This was also the profile of the first people to start voting for Hitler in Germany.

[Swedish Rainbow Capitalist Cheese]

I'm seriously starting to wonder if the Social Democrats actually want to loose this election. <.<

The new proposal from Carin Jämtin, the leading Social Democratic politician in Stockholm City is... Partly State Funded Butlers for people who use Stockholm's underground metro-system. Why is she suggesting this? It's Stockholm, so she has about nil chance of ever becoming mayor, but this will seriously hurt the party's national campaign.

Joke party, ahoy!

[Gustaf]

I'm seriously starting to wonder if the Social Democrats actually want to loose this election. <.<

The new proposal from Carin Jämtin, the leading Social Democratic politician in Stockholm City is... Partly State Funded Butlers for people who use Stockholm's underground metro-system. Why is she suggesting this? It's Stockholm, so she has about nil chance of ever becoming mayor, but this will seriously hurt the party's national campaign.

Joke party, ahoy!

Yeah...it's...strange. It's especially strange given the party's stubborn opposition to "Rut" (which basically makes it cheaper for everyone to hire domestic services such as cleaning or cooking). This just seems to be a stupider version of that idea.

[Hash]

That sounds EXACTLY like the profile of Front National supporters in France. Peoploe wioth working class roots but with low levels of education and who are often shop keepers and tradespeople etc...

No, not necessarily.

[Gustaf]

Oh, and as Sahlin noted in her speech the other day, "Sweden risks becoming like many other countries" if the right wins again. Oh no, Swedish exceptionalism, where did you go?

[Gustaf]

I'm seriously starting to wonder if the Social Democrats actually want to loose this election. <.<

The new proposal from Carin Jämtin, the leading Social Democratic politician in Stockholm City is... Partly State Funded Butlers for people who use Stockholm's underground metro-system. Why is she suggesting this? It's Stockholm, so she has about nil chance of ever becoming mayor, but this will seriously hurt the party's national campaign.

Joke party, ahoy!

Yeah...it's...strange. It's especially strange given the party's stubborn opposition to "Rut" (which basically makes it cheaper for everyone to hire domestic services such as cleaning or cooking). This just seems to be a stupider version of that idea.

Funny clips on youtube with young M-supporters walking around in the subway dressed as butlers. The guy interviewed in this one is someone I know a little bit, he goes to my school. He does an excellent butler accent too!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbfCOlvJgmg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ChIFKuIR014&feature=player_embedded

[Phony Moderate]

How well will the Pirate Party do?

[Swedish Rainbow Capitalist Cheese]

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He sounds like Carl-Jan Grankvist... kind of looks like him too. Any relation?

How well will the Pirate Party do?

Depending on how well they're able to get the WOW-players to leave their computers and turn out to vote, between 0,5-1,5% of the vote maybe. I wouldn't mind it if they could steal some of the Sweden Democrats voters like they did in the European elections, thus causing them to fail to break 4%.