COVID-19 Megathread 4: Grandma Got Run Over by the Dow Jones

[emailking]

Yeah a week ago is was conceivable but now it seems extremely unlikely. Especially since new cases are hovering around peak.

[Tender Branson]

In sort of a spillover from America, 500 people assembled today in the center Berlin to protest the still ongoing lockdown in Germany. A few of the protestors reportedly wore "Trump 2020" shirts, others identified themselves to journalists as QAnon believers or opponents of "vaccination terrorism".









Article (in German): https://www.tagesspiegel.de/berlin/kritik-an-corona-massnahmen-das-steckt-hinter-der-querfrontdemonstration-in-berlin/25752958.html#

Coughing and spitting into a police officer's face is a crime.

Lock 'em up !

Those fu**ers need a cold jail cell for a few days to cure their paranoia ...

[GoTfan]

And especially given that antibodies aren't actually providing any immunity.

[T'Chenka]

And especially given that antibodies aren't actually providing any immunity.

That's not conclusive yet, at the minimum we need more info and data on that.

[jamestroll]

So are we really still planning to keep everyone locked in their houses and keep mass unemployment until every living  human being is vaccinated and completely disregarding the consequences of indefinite lockdowns and unemployment?

We can do this until June but after that.... no

[American2020]

https://twitter.com/Prof_BearB/status/1251708492592959489

[T'Chenka]

Mulitiple older white people - not there together - walking up and down the lakefront park promenade at Lake Ontario this morning. All parks are closed in Ontario. Safe COVID-wise? Probably. Illegal? Yes.

[Tender Branson]

WTF ?



How selfish can you be ?

Apparently, the Trump scum thinks a virus only affects themselves and nobody else.

[T'Chenka]

WTF ?



How selfish can you be ?

Apparently, the Trump scum thinks a virus only affects themselves and nobody else.

That's actually very clever. It would be awesome if the political concept wasn't stupid.

[Koharu]

WTF ?
How selfish can you be ?

Apparently, the Trump scum thinks a virus only affects themselves and nobody else.

That's actually very clever. It would be awesome if the political concept wasn't stupid.

As much as I disagree with the argument, it is a clever one. Anti-abortion folks see abortion as affecting more than one person (as to them the fetus is a human, and also they think a partner should have more say), so they're able to use this argument to try to bolster understanding of their cause.

Of course, it's still a ridiculous argument because one person being a jerk and ignoring health guidelines will end up affecting many more people than an abortion does.

[jamestroll]

I am not an expert here obviously but people on this board have opinions all the time on issues they are not experts on.

I say mid to late June for the below reasons:

1) Keeping up isolated and social distanced for two more months should really hinder the virus from spreading and the curve would be essentially flat.

2) It gives business more time to create procedures for operating during this pandemic. It could be as simple as airlines taking temperatures prior to board and not using middle seats except for families.

3) The unemployment stimulus boosts go until July 31st. Ending the lock downs sometime in June gives a 4 to 6 week adjustment period.

4) If we are really locked up and unemployed well into the fall and next year we will end up with mass foreclosures, evictions, people living on 300 a week from unemployment, depression, suicides, obesity, and various other medical calamities that will be far worse than the virus itself.

5) And let's be honest the coronavirus will be around for a while. Some spread of it will create more immunity and we will have to get used to wearing masks and gloves in public.

The needs of many override the needs of a few. Right now the economic cost is absolutely worth it but that opinion has a shelf life of only two more months.

Ending lockdowns on May 1st would be a horrible idea and it would absolutely lead to a massive depression. We just need more time.

[Inmate Trump]

Regarding protesters...if they don't adhere to the 6 feet rule, they should be arrested.

[American2020]

https://twitter.com/jeangene_vilmer/status/1251870132961492992

[Sbane]

I am not an expert here obviously but people on this board have opinions all the time on issues they are not experts on.

I say mid to late June for the below reasons:

1) Keeping up isolated and social distanced for two more months should really hinder the virus from spreading and the curve would be essentially flat.

2) It gives business more time to create procedures for operating during this pandemic. It could be as simple as airlines taking temperatures prior to board and not using middle seats except for families.

3) The unemployment stimulus boosts go until July 31st. Ending the lock downs sometime in June gives a 4 to 6 week adjustment period.

4) If we are really locked up and unemployed well into the fall and next year we will end up with mass foreclosures, evictions, people living on 300 a week from unemployment, depression, suicides, obesity, and various other medical calamities that will be far worse than the virus itself.

5) And let's be honest the coronavirus will be around for a while. Some spread of it will create more immunity and we will have to get used to wearing masks and gloves in public.

The needs of many override the needs of a few. Right now the economic cost is absolutely worth it but that opinion has a shelf life of only two more months.

Ending lockdowns on May 1st would be a horrible idea and it would absolutely lead to a massive depression. We just need more time.

Opening up the economy with restrictions can happen sooner than June. Mid-late May would be safest but parts of the country could open up earlier provided there is enough testing to catch outbreaks, and enough PPE for the additional employees that would be exposed to the virus. That is the biggest roadblock right now.

[jamestroll]

I am not an expert here obviously but people on this board have opinions all the time on issues they are not experts on.

I say mid to late June for the below reasons:

1) Keeping up isolated and social distanced for two more months should really hinder the virus from spreading and the curve would be essentially flat.

2) It gives business more time to create procedures for operating during this pandemic. It could be as simple as airlines taking temperatures prior to board and not using middle seats except for families.

3) The unemployment stimulus boosts go until July 31st. Ending the lock downs sometime in June gives a 4 to 6 week adjustment period.

4) If we are really locked up and unemployed well into the fall and next year we will end up with mass foreclosures, evictions, people living on 300 a week from unemployment, depression, suicides, obesity, and various other medical calamities that will be far worse than the virus itself.

5) And let's be honest the coronavirus will be around for a while. Some spread of it will create more immunity and we will have to get used to wearing masks and gloves in public.

The needs of many override the needs of a few. Right now the economic cost is absolutely worth it but that opinion has a shelf life of only two more months.

Ending lockdowns on May 1st would be a horrible idea and it would absolutely lead to a massive depression. We just need more time.

Opening up the economy with restrictions can happen sooner than June. Mid-late May would be safest but parts of the country could open up earlier provided there is enough testing to catch outbreaks, and enough PPE for the additional employees that would be exposed to the virus. That is the biggest roadblock right now.

One other factor is that even though I do not believe coronavirus is seasonal it is possible humid hot weather could help slow down spread. That is another reason I prefer June.

[Holmes]

WTF ?



How selfish can you be ?

Apparently, the Trump scum thinks a virus only affects themselves and nobody else.

This is funny considering how conservatives just love passing legislation controlling what women can and can't do with their bodies.

[American2020]

https://twitter.com/willdizard/status/1251671034115342340

[emailking]

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1251912553602654214

[Inmate Trump]

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1251912553602654214

He’ll only be with the governors who are friendly with him.

[Grassroots]

I am not an expert here obviously but people on this board have opinions all the time on issues they are not experts on.

I say mid to late June for the below reasons:

1) Keeping up isolated and social distanced for two more months should really hinder the virus from spreading and the curve would be essentially flat.

2) It gives business more time to create procedures for operating during this pandemic. It could be as simple as airlines taking temperatures prior to board and not using middle seats except for families.

3) The unemployment stimulus boosts go until July 31st. Ending the lock downs sometime in June gives a 4 to 6 week adjustment period.

4) If we are really locked up and unemployed well into the fall and next year we will end up with mass foreclosures, evictions, people living on 300 a week from unemployment, depression, suicides, obesity, and various other medical calamities that will be far worse than the virus itself.

5) And let's be honest the coronavirus will be around for a while. Some spread of it will create more immunity and we will have to get used to wearing masks and gloves in public.

The needs of many override the needs of a few. Right now the economic cost is absolutely worth it but that opinion has a shelf life of only two more months.

Ending lockdowns on May 1st would be a horrible idea and it would absolutely lead to a massive depression. We just need more time.

Opening up the economy with restrictions can happen sooner than June. Mid-late May would be safest but parts of the country could open up earlier provided there is enough testing to catch outbreaks, and enough PPE for the additional employees that would be exposed to the virus. That is the biggest roadblock right now.

Only some states should open in may, I'm thinking of Washington, Vermont, Idaho, Montana, Louisiana, and Hawaii. The rest should wait until June 1st.

[American2020]

https://twitter.com/NateSilver538/status/1251898695056011267

[Grassroots]

And especially given that antibodies aren't actually providing any immunity.

Some people have been passing this around, and in reality it's just alarmist propaganda. In SK, 2% of COVID cases reactivated after people tested negative, but there's no evidence that you can actually re-contract the virus.

[American2020]

[Calthrina950]

I wonder if a new thread should be started soon. This one has grown to be long enough.

[Tintrlvr]

NY had the lowest number of new cases today since March 25. A little bit of weekend effect maybe but of course much lower than previous Sundays, too.