Intelligent Voting Amendment to the Constitution (Passed)

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     So make the requirement for registering 50 posts again?

Indeed, I would prefer it to be higher, but we're getting overrun by people who haven't familiarized themselves with the forum at all. Perhaps even implementing a time period before a user can join Atlasia would be necessary. It took me months before I ever even noticed Atlasia, and I'm sure the same is true for most of us here, so It's somewhat surprising that so many newbies are, clearly by the direction of some people, joining Atlasia right away and registering to vote, usually just by making 25 inane posts, before even knowing any of the people on Atlas or how the process words.

It really is a shame, and we need to do something to increase the voting eligibility requirements a bit. I'm just scared that now we have no many people inside the system that this amendment might fail in the regions.

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Also I'd like to say that I'm not proposing this just because I want it to be hard for people to join, I just think that 25 is too lax and the idea to relaxed eligibility requirements was to get more people involved, but I think anyone who is going to join can easily get 50+ posts. Honestly, the only people who jump right in before even getting 25 posts are probably drones.

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     I could maybe get behind a mandatory period of one week before joining. I also think we could stand to increase the posts requirement, seeing as how getting 25 posts today is much easier than it was in the past.

My main concern is that a few of these newbies have joined and never participated in Atlasian debate over a certain topic, never really showed an interest, and slowed their pace of posting overall, as if they just wanted to get 25 posts and then be able to vote, it's incredibly suspicious and a bit bothersome. At least doubling the posting requirement (which isn't really that tough to deal with) and the possible addition of a time requirement before being able to join would add enough hoops to jump through to at least make sockpuppeting or newbie marshaling a bit less easy.

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     How long of a time requirement do you have in mind, though?

A week, I suppose, would be all I could get out of this body

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I would be willing to go as long as a month. I wait 18 years to vote in the United States, people can wait a month to vote in this forum. People need to prove they actually can contribute to this site before they come in here.

I'm not opposed to a month, but I want this to pass in the regions

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What about two weeks/15 days?

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It's just silly that we let people wander in, contribute nothing to the forum at large and jump into something like this. Make them really show that they are interested in the game and care about the forum.

Of course, I'm in complete agreement with you. 25 Posts is pitifully easy to get and some newbies, such as "Electoraljew" have posted 25 times and then posted almost nothing since then. I think if people really are dedicated to getting involved that they're not going to lose interest in Atlas and go somewhere else, they'll at least participate or do something beforehand and come back. If people really want to join Atlasia then I think they'll stay.

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Edit: See my below post.

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Edit: See my below post again!

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     Maybe also require a certain time period before one can become Senator or President.

Perhaps a month for Senate and two months for President?

Also, the bit about regional offices can be removed if someone objects to telling regions who can or can't hold their offices.

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Also, the bit about regional offices can be removed if someone objects to telling regions who can or can't hold their offices.

I think, instead, allow the Regions to set requirements along those guidelines.

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Better?

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     Maybe also require a certain time period before one can become Senator or President.

Perhaps a month for Senate and two months for President?

Also, the bit about regional offices can be removed if someone objects to telling regions who can or can't hold their offices.

     I don't know. One of my constituents suggested the idea, but he also suggested longer down times. I need to ask him how he feels about one & two months.

I decided to make it two and three months instead. I'm always open to suggestions but I think that my last post is a suitable change to this amendment.

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I am happy we could turn this into a broader amendment to raise the standards of participation.

Should we do something about absentee voting while we're at it?

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I am happy we could turn this into a broader amendment to raise the standards of participation.

Should we do something about absentee voting while we're at it?

     You mean eliminate the absentee booths & just have the regular booth open longer? I see no reason not to address that here.

Would anyone else like to deal with that? I'm not really sure how to go about making those changes. I can just delete my last post and combine it into one big change to the amendment.

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I am happy we could turn this into a broader amendment to raise the standards of participation.

Should we do something about absentee voting while we're at it?

     You mean eliminate the absentee booths & just have the regular booth open longer? I see no reason not to address that here.

Would anyone else like to deal with that? I'm not really sure how to go about making those changes. I can just delete my last post and combine it into one big change to the amendment.

Are non-senators allowed to post here?

Anyway, I just wanted to suggest that it'd probably be a good idea to give the absentee voting it's own amendment/law since there will (most likely) be trouble making the other part  pass, and there's no reason why this change shouldn't pass just because the other part fails. 

You're free to post here as long as it's constructive and doesn't interfere with Senate business.

I suspect, though, you're right. I would prefer to leave the absentee voting situation separate.

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So.... more debate or shall I open the final vote?

Grant me a moment of stupidity.

As long as this is what we're voting on. Reflecting on it, I realized that I made a more formal proposal to change this the first time, but ended up erasing those posts twice because of requests to make more changes to it first, and then I just ended up posting it in response to Ben. If I have to be more technical and proposey about it, I'll post it again first.

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Alright, let's just get some final tweaks in on that. I want to take Brandon's advice and extend the length of time it takes until you can become president, and define them in number of days instead of months, since that could be slightly confusing, I suppose.

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