If you were governor of a state with the death penalty...

[Undisguised Sockpuppet]

I support both the death penalty and abortion. What does that make me?

[DownWithTheLeft]

LOL however at people that oppose the death penalty but support abortion, shows where your values are

The fetus isn't a human life.

Funny how you love science sometimes but not at others

Science leans in his direction (though I wouldn't call it quite as decisive as on, say, evolution or climate change).

Fetus being a human is definetly more easily proven than evolution and man-made global warming.  Probably because the first one is true and the others aren't, just a guess.

[Gabu]

Fetus being a human is definetly more easily proven than evolution and man-made global warming.  Probably because the first one is true and the others aren't, just a guess.

Okay... prove it then.

[DownWithTheLeft]

Fetus being a human is definetly more easily proven than evolution and man-made global warming.  Probably because the first one is true and the others aren't, just a guess.

Okay... prove it then.

The fetus will be born and possess the qualities necessary for life, therefore it is life and a person.  Really not too difficult, fancy science not necessary

[Gabu]

Fetus being a human is definetly more easily proven than evolution and man-made global warming.  Probably because the first one is true and the others aren't, just a guess.

Okay... prove it then.

The fetus will be born and possess the qualities necessary for life, therefore it is life and a person.  Really not too difficult, fancy science not necessary

Is a plant seed placed into fertile soil a plant?

[SPC]

I would have to agree with the liberals as far as the first two trimesters, as the fetus isn't really "life" at that point, and wouldn't infringe on a woman's right. However, third-trimester abortions is the more sensitive issue.

[Person Man]

I don't know why the libertarians are coming in favor of the death penalty. Maybe a lot of libertarians are just paleo-cons.

Our official platform doesn't mention the death penalty, but I presume the forum libertarians support it because of the "eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth" rule, much the same reason I support it. As I said before, I would temporarily commute the sentence to life until DNA evidence could be found, because one can never be too sure.

Eve for an eye is not really that good of a principle for practical reason. Should a rapist be raped? .... and if you are pro-life, should an abortionist be aborted?

Well, I believe the punishment should fit the crime. If you rob $3 worth of a product from a store, you should have to pay the store $6.

So what do we do with kidnappers? Kidnap someone for three days, the sentence is only three days in prison?

No. The sentence would have to be much longer, as I believe kidnapping is assault.

...so you assault the convicted abductor?

[Person Man]

LOL however at people that oppose the death penalty but support abortion, shows where your values are

The fetus isn't a human life.

Funny how you love science sometimes but not at others

Science leans in his direction (though I wouldn't call it quite as decisive as on, say, evolution or climate change).

Fetus being a human is definetly more easily proven than evolution and man-made global warming.  Probably because the first one is true and the others aren't, just a guess.

How is he not a fundy?

[Ebowed]

The fetus will be born and possess the qualities necessary for life, therefore it is life and a person.  Really not too difficult, fancy science not necessary

At what point do you determine that the fetus suddenly constitutes a human life?

(Here's a hint: the wrong answer is "conception.")

[CPT MikeyMike]

The end state needs to be that the death penalty is no longer necessary. The way to achieve this is by making the prison system tougher. Reintroduce hard labor, chain gangs and eliminate all luxury items such as TVs and stereos from prisons. We have made prisons almost like a home for convicts where it's suppose to be a punishment for them.

Prison sentences needs to a punishment that is so bad that convicts wished that they were dead instead. Like in Office Space, it should not be a white-collared resort; it should be a pound-me in the ass prison. 

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

The end state needs to be that the death penalty is no longer necessary. The way to achieve this is by making the prison system tougher. Reintroduce hard labor, chain gangs and eliminate all luxury items such as TVs and stereos from prisons. We have made prisons almost like a home for convicts where it's suppose to be a punishment for them.

Prison sentences needs to a punishment that is so bad that convicts wished that they were dead instead. Like in Office Space, it should not be a white-collared resort; it should be a pound-me in the ass prison. 

I'm pretty sure that still happens - chain gangs or not.

[CPT MikeyMike]

The end state needs to be that the death penalty is no longer necessary. The way to achieve this is by making the prison system tougher. Reintroduce hard labor, chain gangs and eliminate all luxury items such as TVs and stereos from prisons. We have made prisons almost like a home for convicts where it's suppose to be a punishment for them.

Prison sentences needs to a punishment that is so bad that convicts wished that they were dead instead. Like in Office Space, it should not be a white-collared resort; it should be a pound-me in the ass prison. 

I'm pretty sure that still happens - chain gangs or not.

LOL...parden that pun!

Nevertheless, my point is still that the prison system is getting too lax and the system needs to get tougher.

[Person Man]

The end state needs to be that the death penalty is no longer necessary. The way to achieve this is by making the prison system tougher. Reintroduce hard labor, chain gangs and eliminate all luxury items such as TVs and stereos from prisons. We have made prisons almost like a home for convicts where it's suppose to be a punishment for them.

Prison sentences needs to a punishment that is so bad that convicts wished that they were dead instead. Like in Office Space, it should not be a white-collared resort; it should be a pound-me in the ass prison. 

I'm pretty sure that still happens - chain gangs or not.

LOL...parden that pun!

Nevertheless, my point is still that the prison system is getting too lax and the system needs to get tougher.

maybe replace the death penalty with pound-me-in-the-ass. Probably more effective, cheaper and turns the state from murderers and euthanologists to homosexual dungeon masters. Which would you rather be?

[Ebowed]

maybe replace the death penalty with pound-me-in-the-ass. Probably more effective, cheaper and turns the state from murderers and euthanologists to homosexual dungeon masters. Which would you rather be?

Oh, in civilized countries, rape is illegal.