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« on: August 14, 2012, 05:56:48 PM »

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2012/08/14/paul-ryan-mitt-romneys-running-mate-attacks-nhs_n_1774738.html?utm_hp_ref=uk-politics&utm_hp_ref=uk

The American Right really need to get their fact right on this.
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« Reply #1 on: August 14, 2012, 06:00:39 PM »

Here's to hoping the British will keep thrashing the Republican ticket all the way up through the election.

You know something's up when David Cameron gave a veiled endorsement to McCain/Palin, yet hit out at Romney when he visited the UK.
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« Reply #2 on: August 14, 2012, 08:04:52 PM »

Here's to hoping the British will keep thrashing the Republican ticket all the way up through the election.

Yeah, that will show 'em!

It should. Alienating our closest and most major ally - not only Romney but Ryan, too - before even stepping into the Oval Office does not bode well for future relations. Or have Republicans simply stopped caring about foreign relations with our allies now that it is not convenient or based in war, due to the fact that neither Romney nor Ryan have any foreign policy experience or military service?

It says "Labour and Conservative MPs", not "Kadima and Likud MPs".

Meh, I still say Israel is third after Canada. It just takes in a lot more effort. I would comment on the effect of British MPs saying Americans are wrong criticizing the NHS, but Keystone Phil is doing an excellent job of it. Speaking of the NHS, I sure hope I'll live to see the day British health is privatized.

So that millions in our country would be without health care as well? Gee, thanks.
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« Reply #3 on: August 14, 2012, 08:11:11 PM »

What part of Foreign Policy does Paul Ryan excel at, exactly? Unless you count being in government and voting on something as direct foreign policy experience, dude is strictly domestic-focused. There's pretty much no way to argue otherwise.

Sarah Palin had more foreign policy experience being from a state next to Canada and Russia. Not that that says a lot, but still, it demonstrates the corner Mitt's in if something (god forbid) kicks off in the world in the next 3 months.
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« Reply #4 on: August 15, 2012, 08:08:37 AM »

The thread title makes it seem like quite a few MP's are getting rowdy at Ryan. When in reality, it's merely Jamie Reed, Labour shadow Health minister, and Stephen Dorrell, a Conservative moderate who says he 'doesn't disagree entirely' with Ryan's views and was probably only called on to comment to prevent Labour from making this a partisan issue. Not to mention this has only cropped up at all due to an old article Ryan penned in 2009.

Anyhow, considering the fact that Paul Ryan's budget plan is quite similar to George Osborne's, it would be ridiculous for any Conservative to attack Ryan for his proposals.


Austerity is working out so will for Britain, isn't it.

Fixing the mess left by the last government was never going to be easy.

At least we still have our AAA credit rating.

Yeah yeah, Labour's fault, blah blah. Put down your party talking points and look at the facts.

We're in a new recession ("a recession made in Downing Street" as the opposition puts it) after a period of some recovery in the economy and in terms of the cornerstone of the Tory's election campaign, a surplus by 2015, they've already had to admit that that's simply not possible even with their draconian austerity measures. We're not better off than we were two years ago.

We haven't lost our AAA rating. Yet.


Now, back on topic, this is a separate conversation for a separate board.
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« Reply #5 on: August 15, 2012, 11:15:52 AM »

LOL @ the idea of NHS being anything other than a tragedy.

On what basis is it a tragedy?
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« Reply #6 on: August 17, 2012, 07:14:54 AM »

Politico, have you ever actually been to Britain or read any study of the NHS written from a British perspective? Yes or no.

Yes. I firmly believe that queuing resources is never a good idea. The promises of socialized medicine are not realistic. Obviously good intentions, but poor results. It's the results that matter.

The free market's made America the healthiest nation on Earth!

Please, have you seen the Governor of New Jersey?
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« Reply #7 on: August 17, 2012, 08:44:02 AM »

Politico, have you ever actually been to Britain or read any study of the NHS written from a British perspective? Yes or no.

Yes. I firmly believe that queuing resources is never a good idea. The promises of socialized medicine are not realistic. Obviously good intentions, but poor results. It's the results that matter.

The free market's made America the healthiest nation on Earth!

Please, have you seen the Governor of New Jersey?

Yep, that is the winning argument...

Pathetic statements deserve pathetic responses.
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« Reply #8 on: August 17, 2012, 11:03:42 AM »

Is there a reason why Britain cares about the US, but the US doesn't care about Britain?

We don't like one of the cornerstones of our society being slagged off and smeared baselessly. Same as any other country.
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