British Labour and Conservative MPs lash out at Paul Ryan

[You kip if you want to...]

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2012/08/14/paul-ryan-mitt-romneys-running-mate-attacks-nhs_n_1774738.html?utm_hp_ref=uk-politics&utm_hp_ref=uk

The American Right really need to get their fact right on this.

[Adam Griffin]

Here's to hoping the British will keep thrashing the Republican ticket all the way up through the election.

[You kip if you want to...]

Here's to hoping the British will keep thrashing the Republican ticket all the way up through the election.

You know something's up when David Cameron gave a veiled endorsement to McCain/Palin, yet hit out at Romney when he visited the UK.

[Keystone Phil]

Here's to hoping the British will keep thrashing the Republican ticket all the way up through the election.

Yeah, that will show 'em!

[Adam Griffin]

Here's to hoping the British will keep thrashing the Republican ticket all the way up through the election.

Yeah, that will show 'em!

It should. Alienating our closest and most major ally - not only Romney but Ryan, too - before even stepping into the Oval Office does not bode well for future relations. Or have Republicans simply stopped caring about foreign relations with our allies now that it is not convenient or based in war, due to the fact that neither Romney nor Ryan have any foreign policy experience or military service?

[Keystone Phil]

Labour and even the Tories will always hate the GOP position on the NHS regardless of what is being said. That shouldn't affect our relations with the UK.

Romney and Ryan would be just as ridiculous if they suggested that our relationship with the UK would be negatively affected because of their national healthcare but you don't hear that. At the end of the day, it's always going to boil down to a difference in philosophy on a domestic issue. I'm sure I can find a slew of domestic issues in this country that our friends from across the pond misrepresent but I'm not whining that that will break our relationship.

The last part of your post was silly/blatantly hackish especially to a Republican like myself who considers foreign relations a major area of concern. I'm only bringing it up because of an inaccurate talking point that your side has been pushing: Ryan doesn't have foreign policy experience. The only probably with that "point" is that Ryan has been a member of the House for thirteen years. He certainly has some foreign policy experience.

[Politico]

Misery loves company. Europe wants to see America dragged down to its level. It is not a surprise that they want four more years of Obama.

For the record, it is undeniable that rationing and price controls of any resource, including health care, results in queuing/shortages and all that entails. Go ask people who remember Jimmy Carter's gas lines, which is akin to what Obamacare will do to seniors who rely on Medicare.

[President von Cat]

The last part of your post was silly/blatantly hackish especially to a Republican like myself who considers foreign relations a major area of concern. I'm only bringing it up because of an inaccurate talking point that your side has been pushing: Ryan doesn't have foreign policy experience. The only probably with that "point" is that Ryan has been a member of the House for thirteen years. He certainly has some foreign policy experience.

Really, how do you get there?

Here's Ryan's committee memberships:

Committee on the Budget (Chairman)
Committee on Ways and Means
Subcommittee on Health
Republican Study Committee

Don't see anything about foreign relations there. Unless you mean he absorbed it through osmosis by being around other House members that were doing work on foreign policy.

[Politico]

The last part of your post was silly/blatantly hackish especially to a Republican like myself who considers foreign relations a major area of concern. I'm only bringing it up because of an inaccurate talking point that your side has been pushing: Ryan doesn't have foreign policy experience. The only probably with that "point" is that Ryan has been a member of the House for thirteen years. He certainly has some foreign policy experience.

Really, how do you get there?

Here's Ryan's committee memberships:

Committee on the Budget (Chairman)
Committee on Ways and Means
Subcommittee on Health
Republican Study Committee

Don't see anything about foreign relations there. Unless you mean he absorbed it through osmosis by being around other House members that were doing work on foreign policy.

Romney's Secretary of State will make up for any deficiencies in the foreign policy realm.

This is all about the economy, anyway. Foreign policy is an area with few differences other than a more stern stance on Iran and a greater commitment to free trade.

[Donerail]

Here's to hoping the British will keep thrashing the Republican ticket all the way up through the election.

Yeah, that will show 'em!

It should. Alienating our closest and most major ally - not only Romney but Ryan, too - before even stepping into the Oval Office does not bode well for future relations. Or have Republicans simply stopped caring about foreign relations with our allies now that it is not convenient or based in war, due to the fact that neither Romney nor Ryan have any foreign policy experience or military service?

It says "Labour and Conservative MPs", not "Kadima and Likud MPs".

[Vosem]

Here's to hoping the British will keep thrashing the Republican ticket all the way up through the election.

Yeah, that will show 'em!

It should. Alienating our closest and most major ally - not only Romney but Ryan, too - before even stepping into the Oval Office does not bode well for future relations. Or have Republicans simply stopped caring about foreign relations with our allies now that it is not convenient or based in war, due to the fact that neither Romney nor Ryan have any foreign policy experience or military service?

It says "Labour and Conservative MPs", not "Kadima and Likud MPs".

Meh, I still say Israel is third after Canada. It just takes in a lot more effort. I would comment on the effect of British MPs saying Americans are wrong criticizing the NHS, but Keystone Phil is doing an excellent job of it. Speaking of the NHS, I sure hope I'll live to see the day British health is privatized.

[Keystone Phil]

The last part of your post was silly/blatantly hackish especially to a Republican like myself who considers foreign relations a major area of concern. I'm only bringing it up because of an inaccurate talking point that your side has been pushing: Ryan doesn't have foreign policy experience. The only probably with that "point" is that Ryan has been a member of the House for thirteen years. He certainly has some foreign policy experience.

Really, how do you get there?

Here's Ryan's committee memberships:

Committee on the Budget (Chairman)
Committee on Ways and Means
Subcommittee on Health
Republican Study Committee

Don't see anything about foreign relations there. Unless you mean he absorbed it through osmosis by being around other House members that were doing work on foreign policy.

Apparently you don't vote on and debate matters outside of your committee.

[You kip if you want to...]

Here's to hoping the British will keep thrashing the Republican ticket all the way up through the election.

Yeah, that will show 'em!

It should. Alienating our closest and most major ally - not only Romney but Ryan, too - before even stepping into the Oval Office does not bode well for future relations. Or have Republicans simply stopped caring about foreign relations with our allies now that it is not convenient or based in war, due to the fact that neither Romney nor Ryan have any foreign policy experience or military service?

It says "Labour and Conservative MPs", not "Kadima and Likud MPs".

Meh, I still say Israel is third after Canada. It just takes in a lot more effort. I would comment on the effect of British MPs saying Americans are wrong criticizing the NHS, but Keystone Phil is doing an excellent job of it. Speaking of the NHS, I sure hope I'll live to see the day British health is privatized.

So that millions in our country would be without health care as well? Gee, thanks.

[Marokai Backbeat]

What part of Foreign Policy does Paul Ryan excel at, exactly? Unless you count being in government and voting on something as direct foreign policy experience, dude is strictly domestic-focused. There's pretty much no way to argue otherwise.

[You kip if you want to...]

What part of Foreign Policy does Paul Ryan excel at, exactly? Unless you count being in government and voting on something as direct foreign policy experience, dude is strictly domestic-focused. There's pretty much no way to argue otherwise.

Sarah Palin had more foreign policy experience being from a state next to Canada and Russia. Not that that says a lot, but still, it demonstrates the corner Mitt's in if something (god forbid) kicks off in the world in the next 3 months.

[Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.]

Obama is notable as an expert in communications because while in the Senate he voted on bills relating to the Postal Service. Little-known fact.

[Donerail]

Here's to hoping the British will keep thrashing the Republican ticket all the way up through the election.

Yeah, that will show 'em!

It should. Alienating our closest and most major ally - not only Romney but Ryan, too - before even stepping into the Oval Office does not bode well for future relations. Or have Republicans simply stopped caring about foreign relations with our allies now that it is not convenient or based in war, due to the fact that neither Romney nor Ryan have any foreign policy experience or military service?

It says "Labour and Conservative MPs", not "Kadima and Likud MPs".

Meh, I still say Israel is third after Canada. It just takes in a lot more effort. I would comment on the effect of British MPs saying Americans are wrong criticizing the NHS, but Keystone Phil is doing an excellent job of it. Speaking of the NHS, I sure hope I'll live to see the day British health is privatized.

Third if you're being realistic and all about it, but (in public) I don't think that's the official line of the Republican Party.

[patrick1]

What part of Foreign Policy does Paul Ryan excel at, exactly? Unless you count being in government and voting on something as direct foreign policy experience, dude is strictly domestic-focused. There's pretty much no way to argue otherwise.

Sarah Palin had more foreign policy experience being from a state next to Canada and Russia. Not that that says a lot, but still, it demonstrates the corner Mitt's in if something (god forbid) kicks off in the world in the next 3 months.

Not necessarily, the Romney team is likely licking their chops at the prospect of Egypt going tits up.

[Supersonic]

The thread title makes it seem like quite a few MP's are getting rowdy at Ryan. When in reality, it's merely Jamie Reed, Labour shadow Health minister, and Stephen Dorrell, a Conservative moderate who says he 'doesn't disagree entirely' with Ryan's views and was probably only called on to comment to prevent Labour from making this a partisan issue. Not to mention this has only cropped up at all due to an old article Ryan penned in 2009.

Anyhow, considering the fact that Paul Ryan's budget plan is quite similar to George Osborne's, it would be ridiculous for any Conservative to attack Ryan for his proposals.

[Indy Texas 🇺🇦🇵🇸]

The thread title makes it seem like quite a few MP's are getting rowdy at Ryan. When in reality, it's merely Jamie Reed, Labour shadow Health minister, and Stephen Dorrell, a Conservative moderate who says he 'doesn't disagree entirely' with Ryan's views and was probably only called on to comment to prevent Labour from making this a partisan issue. Not to mention this has only cropped up at all due to an old article Ryan penned in 2009.

Anyhow, considering the fact that Paul Ryan's budget plan is quite similar to George Osborne's, it would be ridiculous for any Conservative to attack Ryan for his proposals.

Austerity is working out so will for Britain, isn't it.

[mondale84]

Here's to hoping the British will keep thrashing the Republican ticket all the way up through the election.

Yeah, that will show 'em!

It should. Alienating our closest and most major ally - not only Romney but Ryan, too - before even stepping into the Oval Office does not bode well for future relations. Or have Republicans simply stopped caring about foreign relations with our allies now that it is not convenient or based in war, due to the fact that neither Romney nor Ryan have any foreign policy experience or military service?

It says "Labour and Conservative MPs", not "Kadima and Likud MPs".

Meh, I still say Israel is third after Canada. It just takes in a lot more effort. I would comment on the effect of British MPs saying Americans are wrong criticizing the NHS, but Keystone Phil is doing an excellent job of it. Speaking of the NHS, I sure hope I'll live to see the day British health is privatized.

Third if you're being realistic and all about it, but (in public) I don't think that's the official line of the Republican Party.

I disagree. In terms of Mideast Foreign Policy - which is most of our foreign policy these days - we are wholly beholden to Israel.

[Supersonic]

The thread title makes it seem like quite a few MP's are getting rowdy at Ryan. When in reality, it's merely Jamie Reed, Labour shadow Health minister, and Stephen Dorrell, a Conservative moderate who says he 'doesn't disagree entirely' with Ryan's views and was probably only called on to comment to prevent Labour from making this a partisan issue. Not to mention this has only cropped up at all due to an old article Ryan penned in 2009.

Anyhow, considering the fact that Paul Ryan's budget plan is quite similar to George Osborne's, it would be ridiculous for any Conservative to attack Ryan for his proposals.

Austerity is working out so will for Britain, isn't it.

Fixing the mess left by the last government was never going to be easy.

At least we still have our AAA credit rating.

[Vosem]

Here's to hoping the British will keep thrashing the Republican ticket all the way up through the election.

Yeah, that will show 'em!

It should. Alienating our closest and most major ally - not only Romney but Ryan, too - before even stepping into the Oval Office does not bode well for future relations. Or have Republicans simply stopped caring about foreign relations with our allies now that it is not convenient or based in war, due to the fact that neither Romney nor Ryan have any foreign policy experience or military service?

It says "Labour and Conservative MPs", not "Kadima and Likud MPs".

Meh, I still say Israel is third after Canada. It just takes in a lot more effort. I would comment on the effect of British MPs saying Americans are wrong criticizing the NHS, but Keystone Phil is doing an excellent job of it. Speaking of the NHS, I sure hope I'll live to see the day British health is privatized.

Third if you're being realistic and all about it, but (in public) I don't think that's the official line of the Republican Party.

I disagree. In terms of Mideast Foreign Policy - which is most of our foreign policy these days - we are wholly beholden to Israel.

I don't know if 'beholden' is the right word, but certainly due to the long-standing ties between our two countries the US supports Israel's defense of her citizens against both terrorism and foreign aggression. Canada is closer, I think, but Canada doesn't have to deal with neighbors who absolutely despise it. Canada just has the fat US and cold Denmark.

[Comrade Funk]

The thread title makes it seem like quite a few MP's are getting rowdy at Ryan. When in reality, it's merely Jamie Reed, Labour shadow Health minister, and Stephen Dorrell, a Conservative moderate who says he 'doesn't disagree entirely' with Ryan's views and was probably only called on to comment to prevent Labour from making this a partisan issue. Not to mention this has only cropped up at all due to an old article Ryan penned in 2009.

Anyhow, considering the fact that Paul Ryan's budget plan is quite similar to George Osborne's, it would be ridiculous for any Conservative to attack Ryan for his proposals.

Austerity is working out so will for Britain, isn't it.

Fixing the mess left by the last government was never going to be easy.

At least we still have our AAA credit rating.

So did AIG and Lehman.

[Hatman 🍁]

Here's to hoping the British will keep thrashing the Republican ticket all the way up through the election.

Yeah, that will show 'em!

It should. Alienating our closest and most major ally - not only Romney but Ryan, too - before even stepping into the Oval Office does not bode well for future relations. Or have Republicans simply stopped caring about foreign relations with our allies now that it is not convenient or based in war, due to the fact that neither Romney nor Ryan have any foreign policy experience or military service?

The UK is not your closest ally. Je-sus.