Israeli Airstrikes on Gaza

[Matt Damon™]

Honestly the US needs to withdraw from this entirely and stop funding or meddling with both sides.

[Peter]

I have just cleared over a page worth of unconstructive comments. Please limit your discussion on this thread to Israeli Airstrikes and related matters. The true identity of posters, whether posters should be banned, etc. is not for discussion in this thread

[Pravda]

Israel's vile imperialist actions of attacking the oppressed people of Gaza are indefensible.

[CARLHAYDEN]

Israel's response was justified. Hamas has continually acted irresponsibly and will not come to an agreement with Israel, simply because they are Jewish.

Welcome to the forum.

[Robespierre's Jaw]

It's time Israel eliminates Hamas completely.  At least Bibi won't back down.

Who would have guessed that the incumbent Prime Minister of Israel would be posting an American political forum, claiming to be a 15-year-old boy from Richmond, Virginia.

Israel's response was justified. Hamas has continually acted irresponsibly and will not come to an agreement with Israel, simply because they are Jewish.

Firstly, welcome to the forum Winston

I can assure you that there are more reasons than them being Jewish as to why the Palestinians abruptly concluded their agreement with the Israelis little more than a week ago, on December 20 to be precise. Most importantly the joint Israeli and Egyptian blockade of Gaza.

[Kaine for Senate '18]

It's time Israel eliminates Hamas completely.  At least Bibi won't back down.

Who would have guessed that the incumbent Prime Minister of Israel would be posting an American political forum, claiming to be a 15-year-old boy from Richmond, Virginia.

I am actually from Arlington; if I were from Richmond, BRTD wouldn't constantly say I wasn't Southern.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

It's time Israel eliminates Hamas completely.  At least Bibi won't back down.

Who would have guessed that the incumbent Prime Minister of Israel would be posting an American political forum, claiming to be a 15-year-old boy from Richmond, Virginia.

I am actually from Arlington; if I were from Richmond, BRTD wouldn't constantly say I wasn't Southern.

No I wouldn't considering that Richmond is actually culturally Southern (former capital of the Confederacy) and Arlington is not (Has more in common with New Jersey or even NYC than anywhere in the Deep South.)

2. The government was still elected by the white population.

That's a pretty weak argument. You could use it to argue the Soviet Union was a democracy because the leaders were elected by the membership of the Communist Party.

[k-onmmunist]

Hello Товарищ Флинн and CARLHAYDEN

What did the agreement decide?

[Silent Hunter]

It's time Israel eliminates Hamas completely.  At least Bibi won't back down.

Who would have guessed that the incumbent Prime Minister of Israel would be posting an American political forum, claiming to be a 15-year-old boy from Richmond, Virginia.

I am actually from Arlington; if I were from Richmond, BRTD wouldn't constantly say I wasn't Southern.

No I wouldn't considering that Richmond is actually culturally Southern (former capital of the Confederacy) and Arlington is not (Has more in common with New Jersey or even NYC than anywhere in the Deep South.)

2. The government was still elected by the white population.

That's a pretty weak argument. You could use it to argue the Soviet Union was a democracy because the leaders were elected by the membership of the Communist Party.

The leaders of the USSR weren't elected by the membership of the Communist Party.

[Хahar 🤔]

It's time Israel eliminates Hamas completely.  At least Bibi won't back down.

Who would have guessed that the incumbent Prime Minister of Israel would be posting an American political forum, claiming to be a 15-year-old boy from Richmond, Virginia.

I am actually from Arlington; if I were from Richmond, BRTD wouldn't constantly say I wasn't Southern.

No I wouldn't considering that Richmond is actually culturally Southern (former capital of the Confederacy) and Arlington is not (Has more in common with New Jersey or even NYC than anywhere in the Deep South.)

2. The government was still elected by the white population.

That's a pretty weak argument. You could use it to argue the Soviet Union was a democracy because the leaders were elected by the membership of the Communist Party.

The leaders of the USSR weren't elected by the membership of the Communist Party.

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De facto, they weren't. De jure, they were.

[Silent Hunter]

Israeli officials say ground forces have entered Gaza.

[Psychic Octopus]

Israel has a right to defend itself. They need to punish Hamas for its misdoings. If they want peace, they should stop launching rockets into Israel.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

I'd have more sympathy for Israel if they weren't Hamas' primary source of support and funds in the 80s.

[dead0man]

I'd have more sympathy for Israel if they weren't Hamas' primary source of support and funds in the 80s.

This is probably asking for a lot...but cite?

[k-onmmunist]

Israel has a right to defend itself. They need to punish Hamas for its misdoings. If they want peace, they should stop launching rockets into Israel.

Finally, someone defends Israel rather than defending the actions of terrorist scumbags.

[Matt Damon™]

The IDF are the real terrorists.

[Middle-aged Europe]

I'd have more sympathy for Israel if they weren't Hamas' primary source of support and funds in the 80s.

This is probably asking for a lot...but cite?

I'm not sure if Israel could be called Hamas' "primary source of support", but I also read something along those lines once... the bottomline is that Hamas was originally aided by Israel because the organization was seen as competitor and counterbalance to the PLO/Fatah. Of course, this was in times when Fatah was Israel's main enemy. Support the Hamas and weaken the Fatah. Divide and conquer.

[k-onmmunist]

The IDF are the real terrorists.

My eyes are rolling so hard, I'm surprised they havent left my sockets.

[dead0man]

The IDF are the real terrorists.

Both teh IDF and Hamas kill civilians.  The IDF targest Hamas and because of where Hamas operate from, they often kill nearby civilians.  Hamas on the other hand target civilians.

Who are the "real" terrorists?

[Matt Damon™]

All sides are totally scummy and terroristic but the IDF is worse due to having international legitimacy and still being total tools.

[dead0man]

If you're fishing for excuses I guess that one works for you.

[Kaine for Senate '18]

Israel has a right to defend itself. They need to punish Hamas for its misdoings. If they want peace, they should stop launching rockets into Israel.

Finally, someone defends Israel rather than defending the actions of terrorist scumbags.

Hey!  Me too!

[k-onmmunist]

Israel has a right to defend itself. They need to punish Hamas for its misdoings. If they want peace, they should stop launching rockets into Israel.

Finally, someone defends Israel rather than defending the actions of terrorist scumbags.

Hey!  Me too!

Alright, maybe you as well

And me.

[GMantis]

I'd have more sympathy for Israel if they weren't Hamas' primary source of support and funds in the 80s.

This is probably asking for a lot...but cite?

I'm not sure if Israel could be called Hamas' "primary source of support", but I also read something along those lines once... the bottomline is that Hamas was originally aided by Israel because the organization was seen as competitor and counterbalance to the PLO/Fatah. Of course, this was in times when Fatah was Israel's main enemy. Support the Hamas and weaken the Fatah. Divide and conquer.

Which worked rather nicely in 2007.

[Middle-aged Europe]

I'd have more sympathy for Israel if they weren't Hamas' primary source of support and funds in the 80s.

This is probably asking for a lot...but cite?

I'm not sure if Israel could be called Hamas' "primary source of support", but I also read something along those lines once... the bottomline is that Hamas was originally aided by Israel because the organization was seen as competitor and counterbalance to the PLO/Fatah. Of course, this was in times when Fatah was Israel's main enemy. Support the Hamas and weaken the Fatah. Divide and conquer.

Which worked rather nicely in 2007.

Except that Hamas wasn't supported by Israel in 2007, but 20-30 years earlier. Clearly another occurence of "The enemy of my enemy doctrine bites me in the ass".