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« Reply #875 on: February 20, 2016, 05:36:25 PM »

How exactly is Sanders supposed to win with results like this again?

He's not.

Agreed, it really depends on how long he wants to be a protest candidate. He has the money to last a long time.

Like Ron Paul in 2012?  
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« Reply #876 on: February 20, 2016, 05:37:02 PM »
« Edited: February 20, 2016, 05:38:40 PM by RR1997 »

I'm so glad that Clinton crushed Mr. Empty-Suit.
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« Reply #877 on: February 20, 2016, 05:37:17 PM »

Looks like Clark saved Clinton tonight. Entrance polls are pretty worthless for a caucus the way they are set up. More of a reason to get rid of caucuses.

See? we can agree on things.
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« Reply #878 on: February 20, 2016, 05:37:23 PM »

How exactly is Sanders supposed to win with results like this again?

He's not.

Agreed, it really depends on how long he wants to be a protest candidate. He has the money to last a long time.

Like Ron Paul in 2012?  

That would be a bit frustrating.
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« Reply #879 on: February 20, 2016, 05:38:24 PM »

It's basically over for Sanders, but that doesn't mean his campaign was futile.

Sanders will still win a lot of delegates, and be able to influence the policy platform at the convention. And he has shaped the Clinton campaign and Democratic Party, helping them become more aware of where Millennials are and just how much more progressive we've become. He's done a lot of good for this election and his impact will be felt even into the general election. A Sanders-like candidate will inevitable be nominated in the future, probably in 8 years, and he/she will be able to learn from what Sanders did right as well as make sure the campaign is stronger in its appeal to minorities and have a more solid action plan on how it would all work from the very start. It's just not time yet. I think Hillary is the best fit for President for this moment in American history, and she'll still be able to build even more on Obama's progress, it just won't go as far as Sanders was promising (which I didn't think would be possible even if Sanders did win, anyways). But we'll get there, eventually.
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« Reply #880 on: February 20, 2016, 05:39:20 PM »

Looks like Clark saved Clinton tonight. Entrance polls are pretty worthless for a caucus the way they are set up. More of a reason to get rid of caucuses.

See? we can agree on things.

Well, Bernie won 100% of primaries so far and Hillary won 100% of caucuses, so maybe you should change your mind? Smiley
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« Reply #881 on: February 20, 2016, 05:40:08 PM »

It's basically over for Sanders, but that doesn't mean his campaign was futile.

Sanders will still win a lot of delegates, and be able to influence the policy platform at the convention. And he has shaped the Clinton campaign and Democratic Party, helping them become more aware of where Millennials are and just how much more progressive we've become. He's done a lot of good for this election and his impact will be felt even into the general election. A Sanders-like candidate will inevitable be nominated in the future, probably in 8 years, and he/she will be able to learn from what Sanders did right as well as make sure the campaign is stronger in its appeal to minorities and have a more solid action plan on how it would all work from the very start. It's just not time yet. I think Hillary is the best fit for President for this moment in American history, and she'll still be able to build even more on Obama's progress, it just won't go as far as Sanders was promising (which I didn't think would be possible even if Sanders did win, anyways). But we'll get there, eventually.

Let's wait until after Super Tuesday before writing his political obituary. 
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« Reply #882 on: February 20, 2016, 05:40:53 PM »

It's basically over for Sanders, but that doesn't mean his campaign was futile.

Sanders will still win a lot of delegates, and be able to influence the policy platform at the convention. And he has shaped the Clinton campaign and Democratic Party, helping them become more aware of where Millennials are and just how much more progressive we've become. He's done a lot of good for this election and his impact will be felt even into the general election. A Sanders-like candidate will inevitable be nominated in the future, probably in 8 years, and he/she will be able to learn from what Sanders did right as well as make sure the campaign is stronger in its appeal to minorities and have a more solid action plan on how it would all work from the very start. It's just not time yet. I think Hillary is the best fit for President for this moment in American history, and she'll still be able to build even more on Obama's progress, it just won't go as far as Sanders was promising (which I didn't think would be possible even if Sanders did win, anyways). But we'll get there, eventually.

Let's wait until after Super Tuesday before writing his political obituary. 
A lot of Sanders supporters I know are saying it's over.
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« Reply #883 on: February 20, 2016, 05:41:19 PM »

Looks like Clark saved Clinton tonight. Entrance polls are pretty worthless for a caucus the way they are set up. More of a reason to get rid of caucuses.

See? we can agree on things.

Well, Bernie won 100% of primaries so far and Hillary won 100% of caucuses, so maybe you should change your mind? Smiley

Not changing my mind. Caucuses are god awful and need to go. Same for superdelegates and the IA/NH stranglehold over our process.
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« Reply #884 on: February 20, 2016, 05:42:18 PM »

Millenials will be a key voting block going into the future. Part of the side effect of calling everything Obama did as 'socialist', means that some people actually think 'well if that's socialism, give me more'.
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« Reply #885 on: February 20, 2016, 05:42:24 PM »

It's basically over for Sanders, but that doesn't mean his campaign was futile.

Sanders will still win a lot of delegates, and be able to influence the policy platform at the convention. And he has shaped the Clinton campaign and Democratic Party, helping them become more aware of where Millennials are and just how much more progressive we've become. He's done a lot of good for this election and his impact will be felt even into the general election. A Sanders-like candidate will inevitable be nominated in the future, probably in 8 years, and he/she will be able to learn from what Sanders did right as well as make sure the campaign is stronger in its appeal to minorities and have a more solid action plan on how it would all work from the very start. It's just not time yet. I think Hillary is the best fit for President for this moment in American history, and she'll still be able to build even more on Obama's progress, it just won't go as far as Sanders was promising (which I didn't think would be possible even if Sanders did win, anyways). But we'll get there, eventually.

Let's wait until after Super Tuesday before writing his political obituary. 
A lot of Sanders supporters I know are saying it's over.

Yeah I would hold off on that. Wouldn't want to call it over and have a scandal drop this week and throw it all up in the air. But I mean I think we are looking at Hillary having a big win next week, doing very well Super Tuesday, and there is not much more that Bernie can do to change the narrative.
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« Reply #886 on: February 20, 2016, 05:42:35 PM »

It's basically over for Sanders, but that doesn't mean his campaign was futile.

Sanders will still win a lot of delegates, and be able to influence the policy platform at the convention. And he has shaped the Clinton campaign and Democratic Party, helping them become more aware of where Millennials are and just how much more progressive we've become. He's done a lot of good for this election and his impact will be felt even into the general election. A Sanders-like candidate will inevitable be nominated in the future, probably in 8 years, and he/she will be able to learn from what Sanders did right as well as make sure the campaign is stronger in its appeal to minorities and have a more solid action plan on how it would all work from the very start. It's just not time yet. I think Hillary is the best fit for President for this moment in American history, and she'll still be able to build even more on Obama's progress, it just won't go as far as Sanders was promising (which I didn't think would be possible even if Sanders did win, anyways). But we'll get there, eventually.

Let's wait until after Super Tuesday before writing his political obituary.  
A lot of Sanders supporters I know are saying it's over.

Berniebots tend to be melodramatic.
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« Reply #887 on: February 20, 2016, 05:43:10 PM »

Looks like Clark saved Clinton tonight. Entrance polls are pretty worthless for a caucus the way they are set up. More of a reason to get rid of caucuses.

See? we can agree on things.

Well, Bernie won 100% of primaries so far and Hillary won 100% of caucuses, so maybe you should change your mind? Smiley

No, it's not about self-interest, they're a total farce and joke. Bad ideas are always a bad idea, regardless of who benefits. Caucuses and superdelegates need to go. Just give the elected delegates more flexibility to change rather than relying on SD to save the party if they go kamikaze.
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« Reply #888 on: February 20, 2016, 05:44:12 PM »

This race is not over lol
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« Reply #889 on: February 20, 2016, 05:45:35 PM »

Looks like Clark saved Clinton tonight. Entrance polls are pretty worthless for a caucus the way they are set up. More of a reason to get rid of caucuses.

See? we can agree on things.

Well, Bernie won 100% of primaries so far and Hillary won 100% of caucuses, so maybe you should change your mind? Smiley

Not changing my mind. Caucuses are god awful and need to go. Same for superdelegates and the IA/NH stranglehold over our process.

Agreed, there needs to be wholesale changes in the nomination process.
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« Reply #890 on: February 20, 2016, 05:45:47 PM »

The entrance pollster must be British.
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« Reply #891 on: February 20, 2016, 05:46:33 PM »

Updated exit poll, black voters: Hillary Clinton 76% Bernie Sanders 22%
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« Reply #892 on: February 20, 2016, 05:48:14 PM »

It's basically over for Sanders, but that doesn't mean his campaign was futile.

Sanders will still win a lot of delegates, and be able to influence the policy platform at the convention. And he has shaped the Clinton campaign and Democratic Party, helping them become more aware of where Millennials are and just how much more progressive we've become. He's done a lot of good for this election and his impact will be felt even into the general election. A Sanders-like candidate will inevitable be nominated in the future, probably in 8 years, and he/she will be able to learn from what Sanders did right as well as make sure the campaign is stronger in its appeal to minorities and have a more solid action plan on how it would all work from the very start. It's just not time yet. I think Hillary is the best fit for President for this moment in American history, and she'll still be able to build even more on Obama's progress, it just won't go as far as Sanders was promising (which I didn't think would be possible even if Sanders did win, anyways). But we'll get there, eventually.

Let's wait until after Super Tuesday before writing his political obituary. 
A lot of Sanders supporters I know are saying it's over.

Yeah I would hold off on that. Wouldn't want to call it over and have a scandal drop this week and throw it all up in the air. But I mean I think we are looking at Hillary having a big win next week, doing very well Super Tuesday, and there is not much more that Bernie can do to change the narrative.

Especially if there is a new batch of e-mails we haven't heard about yet -though wasn't this latest batch the last? 
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« Reply #893 on: February 20, 2016, 05:48:20 PM »

Jesus Chris csx trim down your horrendous sig.
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« Reply #894 on: February 20, 2016, 05:48:25 PM »

Sanders will likely still be in an upwards trajectory until March. If he's still losing massively when multiple large states are voting per week, then it's over. If Sanders survives March then a lot of whiter and northern states start voting.
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« Reply #895 on: February 20, 2016, 05:48:42 PM »

Nice to see Hillary win something, she deserves it after the ridiculous amount of hate being thrown at her from both sides.
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« Reply #896 on: February 20, 2016, 05:48:59 PM »

Updated exit poll, black voters: Hillary Clinton 76% Bernie Sanders 22%

SC is going to be beautiful
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« Reply #897 on: February 20, 2016, 05:49:32 PM »


Nah it is beautiful
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« Reply #898 on: February 20, 2016, 05:50:13 PM »

Don't feed the troll...
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« Reply #899 on: February 20, 2016, 05:50:17 PM »

Updated exit poll, black voters: Hillary Clinton 76% Bernie Sanders 22%

South Carolina will be a bloodbath.
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