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« Reply #275 on: September 11, 2018, 12:58:20 AM »

What disturbs me most about Brett Kavanaugh is not so much what he would do with Roe vs. Wade and Planned Parenthood vs. Casey, or his pro-corporate rulings, but his support for what is essentially an imperial presidency without accountability.  

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Is this going anywhere?

I suppose it's possible but

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« Reply #276 on: September 11, 2018, 07:56:40 AM »

What disturbs me most about Brett Kavanaugh is not so much what he would do with Roe vs. Wade and Planned Parenthood vs. Casey, or his pro-corporate rulings, but his support for what is essentially an imperial presidency without accountability.  

What is the evidence for this?

Kavanough made it clear that he doesn't support investigations of a President so long as they remain in office, as well as refusing to recuse himself from any case involving the Mueller investigation. 
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« Reply #277 on: September 11, 2018, 11:34:16 AM »

What disturbs me most about Brett Kavanaugh is not so much what he would do with Roe vs. Wade and Planned Parenthood vs. Casey, or his pro-corporate rulings, but his support for what is essentially an imperial presidency without accountability.  

What is the evidence for this?

Kavanough made it clear that he doesn't support investigations of a President so long as they remain in office, as well as refusing to recuse himself from any case involving the Mueller investigation. 


You have to quality that.  Investigation by the executive branch might be problematic; investigation by the legislative branch seems okay with him. 
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« Reply #278 on: September 11, 2018, 12:24:41 PM »

What disturbs me most about Brett Kavanaugh is not so much what he would do with Roe vs. Wade and Planned Parenthood vs. Casey, or his pro-corporate rulings, but his support for what is essentially an imperial presidency without accountability. 

What is the evidence for this?

Kavanough made it clear that he doesn't support investigations of a President so long as they remain in office aren't a Democrat, as well as refusing to recuse himself from any case involving the Mueller investigation. 

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« Reply #279 on: September 11, 2018, 03:47:06 PM »

http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/406041-collins-calls-crowdfunding-to-get-her-to-oppose-kavanaugh-a-bribe

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« Reply #280 on: September 11, 2018, 04:24:00 PM »


It should not be a secret at this point that Collins will vote for Kavanaugh. I read an article somewhere which stated that she has never voted against any Supreme Court nominee during her 21 years in the Senate.
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« Reply #281 on: September 11, 2018, 07:50:29 PM »

Not that it matters

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« Reply #282 on: September 12, 2018, 11:33:00 AM »

If their was any doubt that collins would vote to confirm Kavanaugh it was put to rest when the resistance idiots attempted to bribe her and then threatened her staff.
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« Reply #283 on: September 12, 2018, 12:13:26 PM »

If their was any doubt that collins would vote to confirm Kavanaugh it was put to rest when the resistance idiots attempted to bribe her and then threatened her staff.

Promising to donate to her opponent is not a bribe. It is a threat. One that is quite legal in our plutocracy, to the best of my understanding.
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« Reply #284 on: September 12, 2018, 12:22:56 PM »

If their was any doubt that collins would vote to confirm Kavanaugh it was put to rest when the resistance idiots attempted to bribe her and then threatened her staff.

Promising to donate to her opponent is not a bribe. It is a threat. One that is quite legal in our plutocracy, to the best of my understanding.

It's actually pretty much what the Supreme Court mandated: Money is Speech. 

Susan Collins is an extremist right wing reactionary who doesn't like to be challenged.
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« Reply #285 on: September 12, 2018, 01:00:43 PM »

If their was any doubt that collins would vote to confirm Kavanaugh it was put to rest when the resistance idiots attempted to bribe her and then threatened her staff.

Why in the world are we accepting her idiotic definition of bribe?
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« Reply #286 on: September 12, 2018, 01:41:20 PM »

Let's vote Collins out in 2020. Sadly there are no more real Rockefeller Republicans left; we ought to replace as many people as possible with an R through people with a D nest to their name. Not that Collins' nay vote would have mattered anyway. To prevent the confirmation, Lisa Murkowski also must vote no in addition to all Democrats. And Manchin will vote yes, just as Heitkamp and maybe Donnelly.

Democrats best hope is that Trump gets thrown out of office in 2020 and Ginsburg and Breyer make it through. If Democrats manage to keep the White House for eight or twelve years, Alito or Thomas might step down and we have 5-4 liberal majority.
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« Reply #287 on: September 12, 2018, 01:45:42 PM »

If their was any doubt that collins would vote to confirm Kavanaugh it was put to rest when the resistance idiots attempted to bribe her and then threatened her staff.

Promising to donate to her opponent is not a bribe. It is a threat. One that is quite legal in our plutocracy, to the best of my understanding.

It's actually pretty much what the Supreme Court mandated: Money is Speech. 

Susan Collins is an extremist right wing reactionary who doesn't like to be challenged.


lmao so Susan Collins is an extremist while Ocasio-Cortez is Center-Left hahahahahahaha
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« Reply #288 on: September 12, 2018, 01:51:34 PM »

Either Collins is retiring in 2020 or she really is oblivious to how precarious a situation her political career is in. She's pissed off Republicans to the point she may very well lose her primary, and if she does survive she has to somehow win over all the democrats shes pissing off now. I know its tricky finding a happy middle, but Collins seems to have given up entirely on finding it.
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« Reply #289 on: September 12, 2018, 02:17:49 PM »

Either Collins is retiring in 2020 or she really is oblivious to how precarious a situation her political career is in. She's pissed off Republicans to the point she may very well lose her primary, and if she does survive she has to somehow win over all the democrats shes pissing off now. I know its tricky finding a happy middle, but Collins seems to have given up entirely on finding it.
You are deluding yourself if you think kavanaugh will matter in 2020, you'll throw a long temper tantrum but once he gets confirmed you'll find another shiny object, just like how all of you have forgotten about children at the border
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« Reply #290 on: September 12, 2018, 02:27:25 PM »

Either Collins is retiring in 2020 or she really is oblivious to how precarious a situation her political career is in. She's pissed off Republicans to the point she may very well lose her primary, and if she does survive she has to somehow win over all the democrats shes pissing off now. I know its tricky finding a happy middle, but Collins seems to have given up entirely on finding it.
You are deluding yourself if you think kavanaugh will matter in 2020, you'll throw a long temper tantrum but once he gets confirmed you'll find another shiny object, just like how all of you have forgotten about children at the border

It's nice of you to admit openly like this that you're a moral degenerate.
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« Reply #291 on: September 12, 2018, 02:44:05 PM »

Either Collins is retiring in 2020 or she really is oblivious to how precarious a situation her political career is in. She's pissed off Republicans to the point she may very well lose her primary, and if she does survive she has to somehow win over all the democrats shes pissing off now. I know its tricky finding a happy middle, but Collins seems to have given up entirely on finding it.
You are deluding yourself if you think kavanaugh will matter in 2020, you'll throw a long temper tantrum but once he gets confirmed you'll find another shiny object, just like how all of you have forgotten about children at the border

It's nice of you to admit openly like this that you're a moral degenerate.

Putting the morality aside, he's absolutely right. Kavanaugh will be forgotten a month after he's confirmed by the vast majority of people once they see a new shiny object (and there are plenty thrown about every week by the clown in the White House.)
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« Reply #292 on: September 12, 2018, 03:13:30 PM »

Either Collins is retiring in 2020 or she really is oblivious to how precarious a situation her political career is in. She's pissed off Republicans to the point she may very well lose her primary, and if she does survive she has to somehow win over all the democrats shes pissing off now. I know its tricky finding a happy middle, but Collins seems to have given up entirely on finding it.
You are deluding yourself if you think kavanaugh will matter in 2020, you'll throw a long temper tantrum but once he gets confirmed you'll find another shiny object, just like how all of you have forgotten about children at the border

Such hostility. Lol.

Maybe go take a break or something since your clearly having an emotional reaction to all this.
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« Reply #293 on: September 12, 2018, 03:18:15 PM »

Either Collins is retiring in 2020 or she really is oblivious to how precarious a situation her political career is in. She's pissed off Republicans to the point she may very well lose her primary, and if she does survive she has to somehow win over all the democrats shes pissing off now. I know its tricky finding a happy middle, but Collins seems to have given up entirely on finding it.
You are deluding yourself if you think kavanaugh will matter in 2020, you'll throw a long temper tantrum but once he gets confirmed you'll find another shiny object, just like how all of you have forgotten about children at the border

It's nice of you to admit openly like this that you're a moral degenerate.

Putting the morality aside, he's absolutely right. Kavanaugh will be forgotten a month after he's confirmed by the vast majority of people once they see a new shiny object (and there are plenty thrown about every week by the clown in the White House.)

It really depends. If no major cases get decided on, yes, no one will remember. If Roe V. Wade gets overturned, you can bet Collins will get barraged with attacks for voting for the justice who let's it happen.
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« Reply #294 on: September 12, 2018, 03:35:44 PM »

Either Collins is retiring in 2020 or she really is oblivious to how precarious a situation her political career is in. She's pissed off Republicans to the point she may very well lose her primary, and if she does survive she has to somehow win over all the democrats shes pissing off now. I know its tricky finding a happy middle, but Collins seems to have given up entirely on finding it.
You are deluding yourself if you think kavanaugh will matter in 2020, you'll throw a long temper tantrum but once he gets confirmed you'll find another shiny object, just like how all of you have forgotten about children at the border

It's nice of you to admit openly like this that you're a moral degenerate.

Putting the morality aside, he's absolutely right. Kavanaugh will be forgotten a month after he's confirmed by the vast majority of people once they see a new shiny object (and there are plenty thrown about every week by the clown in the White House.)

It really depends. If no major cases get decided on, yes, no one will remember. If Roe V. Wade gets overturned, you can bet Collins will get barraged with attacks for voting for the justice who let's it happen.

This^

Any decision restricting Roe, Obergefell, etc. will be laid at her feet.
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« Reply #295 on: September 12, 2018, 04:29:56 PM »

Either Collins is retiring in 2020 or she really is oblivious to how precarious a situation her political career is in. She's pissed off Republicans to the point she may very well lose her primary, and if she does survive she has to somehow win over all the democrats shes pissing off now. I know its tricky finding a happy middle, but Collins seems to have given up entirely on finding it.
You are deluding yourself if you think kavanaugh will matter in 2020, you'll throw a long temper tantrum but once he gets confirmed you'll find another shiny object, just like how all of you have forgotten about children at the border

The 3rd justice will be even more fun.
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« Reply #296 on: September 12, 2018, 06:49:01 PM »

If their was any doubt that collins would vote to confirm Kavanaugh it was put to rest when the resistance idiots attempted to bribe her and then threatened her staff.

Promising to donate to her opponent is not a bribe. It is a threat. One that is quite legal in our plutocracy, to the best of my understanding.

It's actually pretty much what the Supreme Court mandated: Money is Speech. 

Susan Collins is an extremist right wing reactionary who doesn't like to be challenged.

Citizens United as I understand it specifically left the door open for bans on quid pro quo political spending.  I don't think the Court would find against this group but would make for an interesting case.
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« Reply #297 on: September 12, 2018, 06:50:17 PM »

Either Collins is retiring in 2020 or she really is oblivious to how precarious a situation her political career is in. She's pissed off Republicans to the point she may very well lose her primary, and if she does survive she has to somehow win over all the democrats shes pissing off now. I know its tricky finding a happy middle, but Collins seems to have given up entirely on finding it.
You are deluding yourself if you think kavanaugh will matter in 2020, you'll throw a long temper tantrum but once he gets confirmed you'll find another shiny object, just like how all of you have forgotten about children at the border

It's nice of you to admit openly like this that you're a moral degenerate.

Putting the morality aside, he's absolutely right. Kavanaugh will be forgotten a month after he's confirmed by the vast majority of people once they see a new shiny object (and there are plenty thrown about every week by the clown in the White House.)
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« Reply #298 on: September 12, 2018, 06:58:33 PM »

Either Collins is retiring in 2020 or she really is oblivious to how precarious a situation her political career is in. She's pissed off Republicans to the point she may very well lose her primary, and if she does survive she has to somehow win over all the democrats shes pissing off now. I know its tricky finding a happy middle, but Collins seems to have given up entirely on finding it.
You are deluding yourself if you think kavanaugh will matter in 2020, you'll throw a long temper tantrum but once he gets confirmed you'll find another shiny object, just like how all of you have forgotten about children at the border

The 3rd justice will be even more fun.

He'll probably get to replace Thomas before 2020. But there wont be nearly as much of a fight since his replacement wont change the makeup of the court.
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« Reply #299 on: September 12, 2018, 07:33:02 PM »

If their was any doubt that collins would vote to confirm Kavanaugh it was put to rest when the resistance idiots attempted to bribe her and then threatened her staff.

Promising to donate to her opponent is not a bribe. It is a threat. One that is quite legal in our plutocracy, to the best of my understanding.

It's actually pretty much what the Supreme Court mandated: Money is Speech. 

Susan Collins is an extremist right wing reactionary who doesn't like to be challenged.

Citizens United as I understand it specifically left the door open for bans on quid pro quo political spending.  I don't think the Court would find against this group but would make for an interesting case.

But this isn’t quid pro quo spending.
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