Derek Chauvin trial megathread (SENTENCED TO 22.5 YEARS IN PRISON)

[DrScholl]

Praise the Lord. Justice finally prevails.

[Crumpets]

"Happy" isn't a good word for anything to describe this story, but so much relief, and finally something close to justice that we can all see.

[Interlocutor is just not there yet]

It's done.

It is.

[H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY]

I don’t think a 2nd degree charge was appropriate- I doubt he intentionally killed Floyd- but I understand that the jury was under immense pressure, and I’m glad to see Chauvin held accountable.

I’m sure all business owners access America are breathing a sigh of relief.

Intent isn’t a necessary element of second-degree murder in Minnesota:

https://www.revisor.mn.gov/statutes/cite/609.19

“Whoever does either of the following is guilty of unintentional murder in the second degree and may be sentenced to imprisonment for not more than 40 years:

(1) causes the death of a human being, without intent to effect the death of any person, while committing or attempting to commit a felony offense other than criminal sexual conduct in the first or second degree with force or violence or a drive-by shooting ...”

In this case the felony offense was assault.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

My God I am so relieved. I was wondering what Minneapolis would look like when I returned in a week or two.

I intend to return to a healing community, and hope I can do my part to help.

[TheReckoning]

I don’t think a 2nd degree charge was appropriate- I doubt he intentionally killed Floyd- but I understand that the jury was under immense pressure, and I’m glad to see Chauvin held accountable.

I’m sure all business owners access America are breathing a sigh of relief.

The charge is 2nd degree unintentional murder. Specifically, that he killed him while committing assault with the intent to commit assault.

Then what’s 3rd degree murder? What’s 2nd degree manslaughter?

[SteveRogers]

Sounds like sentencing is in 8 weeks.

[Silent Hunter]

So the mob gets its pound of flesh. Good for civil strife at least.

It's worth mentioning that Shylock never actually got his pound of flesh.

[Alben Barkley]

So the mob gets its pound of flesh. Good for civil strife at least.

A murderer was found guilty of murder. Good for America and the justice system.

[John Dule]

Why did so many people seem to think he'd actually get off? This jury was taken from one of the bluest places in the country; this isn't like past trials like this, they had video evidence. Unsurprising.

[Ferguson97]

By the way, for information's sake.
Minnesota has a 5% Black CVAP population and the jury was picked from all around Minnesota.
The jury of 12 has 4 black jurors and a few mixed race.
The odds of there being 4 or more black jurors is 0.2% assuming pure random selection from Minnesota citizens of voting age.

It is truly a damning indictment of our society that CNN and other news organizations have put so much effort into publicizing and analyzing the racial makeup of this jury-- the implication being, of course, that people will be sympathetic to people who look like them. If a multiracial democracy is to work, we have got to stop making those kinds of assumptions.

There is endless evidence proving this is true

[H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY]

I don’t think a 2nd degree charge was appropriate- I doubt he intentionally killed Floyd- but I understand that the jury was under immense pressure, and I’m glad to see Chauvin held accountable.

I’m sure all business owners access America are breathing a sigh of relief.

The charge is 2nd degree unintentional murder. Specifically, that he killed him while committing assault with the intent to commit assault.

Then what’s 3rd degree murder? What’s 2nd degree manslaughter?

“ 609.195 MURDER IN THE THIRD DEGREE.
(a) Whoever, without intent to effect the death of any person, causes the death of another by perpetrating an act eminently dangerous to others and evincing a depraved mind, without regard for human life, is guilty of murder in the third degree and may be sentenced to imprisonment for not more than 25 years.”

Basically seems like mens rea, plus second degree murder is more akin to felony murder (which I generally oppose, but it’s good to see it worked out in this case).

[Stand With Israel. Crush Hamas]

You were never making people forget what they saw with their own eyes.

Justice was done. Now watch carefully for agitators trying to incite unrest anyway.

[Ferguson97]

Guilty on all counts! Super pleased.

[ProudModerate2]

He goes directly to jail now, right?
Even before the sentencing court event/date?

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

Justice has been served.

[Calthrina950]

Why did so many people seem to think he'd actually get off? This jury was taken from one of the bluest places in the country; this isn't like past trials like this, they had video evidence. Unsurprising.

Because of the prior history of these trials (or non-trials, in the cases of those who weren't charged). If it weren't for the videotape of Floyd's death, Chauvin would have been acquitted.

[Roronoa D. Law]

So the mob gets its pound of flesh. Good for civil strife at least.

Girl, just say you hate black people.

[SteveRogers]

He goes directly to jail now, right?
Even before the sentencing court event/date?

Yep. Judge revoked his bond and remanded him into custody.

[HisGrace]

Why did so many people seem to think he'd actually get off? This jury was taken from one of the bluest places in the country; this isn't like past trials like this, they had video evidence. Unsurprising.

The comparison to Travyon Martin a few pages ago was ridiculous. No one can claim they know what actually happened there. Here he's on video suffocating a guy.

[Lief 🗽]

So the mob gets its pound of flesh. Good for civil strife at least.

He deserved to be thrown to the mob. He should be happy he got a fair trial, because we believe in the rule of law in this country, even if he and his thug colleagues clearly do not.

[SnowLabrador]

Well, I guess I was wrong. Pleasantly surprised.

[Torrain]

He goes directly to jail now, right?
Even before the sentencing court event/date?

Motion was passed in the courtroom to revoke bail, so it seems so. At least according to the footage I saw on BBC News. Chauvin was led away, cuffed.

 

[Crumpets]

Why did so many people seem to think he'd actually get off? This jury was taken from one of the bluest places in the country; this isn't like past trials like this, they had video evidence. Unsurprising.

I mean, that describes the Rodney King case as well, but that was almost 30 years ago now.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

Just saw Chauvin handcuffed and led out of the courtroom. So satisfying. F[inks] you asshole.