Joe Biden 2020 campaign megathread v3 (pg 45 - mass-dropout aftermath)

[President Johnson]

God help us if this moron gets the nomination

Joe Biden is worried the Republican Party might get 'clobbered.'

"It’s not like there’s going to be some great epiphany and people are going to wake up and go, 'oh my God, I'm now a Democrat.' And if you hear people on the rope line saying, ‘I'm a Republican,’ I say, ‘Stay a Republican.’ Vote for me but stay a Republican, because we need a Republican Party."

He later added that he's concerned about what would happen if the Republican Party was totally "clobbered."

"I'm really worried that no party should have too much power," he said. "You need a countervailing force."

What he means that there needs to be a stable two party system with a sane Republican Party that embraces center-right policies and not Trumpism/Tea Party. However, the current Republican Party of Trump and Moscow Mitch needs to burn to the ground be rebuilt by folks like John Kasich, Arnold Schwarzenegger or Larry Hogan.

Harry Truman made similar statement in 1952 when he declined to seek reelection. Let's not make this a bigger deal than it is.

[President Johnson]

Considering you previously supported Trump, I don’t think anyone should take your opinion on the Republican Party seriously.

The GOP does not need to be “saved” or “preserved”. If Biden really feels that way, he should primary Trump and see how many “truly good” Republicans there are. In reality, there are few (if any) who care about restoring the values that Joe so desperately wants to see return to the mainstream. Those values, by the way, include Reagan’s economic policy, Dubya’s foreign policy, and the type of social conservative pearl clutching that prolonged the fight for marriage equality, among other things.

Joe Biden thinking that the Republicans don’t deserve to be taught a lesson for their embrace of a proto-fascist because he thinks politics has to be nice and fair is downright embarrassing. This is the same guy who gave a eulogy for Strom Thurmond and proudly proclaimed that Delaware was a slave state. He’s a joke of a candidate if he truly believes what he said.

Lmao, Joe Biden has been a Democrat since 1969 and the suggestion by left-wingers to have him run in a Republican primary is just ridiculous. What would you guys say if I suggested Saint Bernard (who isn’t even a Democrat) and Liz should run in a Socialist primary? They are more socialist than Uncle Joe is supporting “Republican talking points”. Joe Biden is a moderate to liberal Democrat, just not a socialist. What Joe Biden actually wants is restoring a two party system in which the Republican Party is a big-tent center-right party and the Democratic Party is big-tent center-left party. Where are serious disagreements between parties and their elected officials, but where is the will to work across the aisle, which the American system and even most parliamentary forms of government require. And where civility is restored to the political discourse, instead of personal slanders and baseless accusations.

It’s also ridiculous to say Joe Biden and the likes of him supported large parts of the Reagan and Bush agendas. They opposed a lot and have made compromises because these men where the president at the time. Some of which he, to his credit, regretted later on. If everything becomes a purity test, not a lot of things to improve people's lives get done. I mean, the same people now hammer Obama for not going far enough with the Affordable Care Act, ignoring the fact it was already very tough to pass and improved the situation substantially for millions of people.

[President Johnson]

https://twitter.com/BillKristol/status/1205126482529529856

https://twitter.com/JRubinBlogger/status/1205129199918493697

I'm not a big fan of Bill Krystol, but this is an excellent analysis. I think people are driven by either their disdain for Biden or simply the fact that the online world hardly reflects realities on the ground. People in the media and this forum have suggested how he's collapsing, stumbling with gaffes and so on and he held his leads both in the primary and the general despite having some setbacks.

[President Johnson]

Say what you want about his policies, but the Biden campaign has hired some damn good people for these ads.

[President Johnson]

https://www.politico.com/news/2019/12/11/biden-single-term-082129

Biden signals to aides that he would serve only a single term

Not according to his Deputy Campaign Manager. It would be an unwise move, even if by mid 2023 he decides to not to run again, should be get elected in 2020.

https://twitter.com/KBeds/status/1204793252337065984

[President Johnson]

Deeply moving clip. Really.

https://twitter.com/JoeBiden/status/1206378407866454016

[President Johnson]

What do people think of a Biden/Harris ticket?

I don’t like Harris at all, but I’m also not their targeted voter. But I am genuinely asking what people supporting Biden (and others) think of this?

I think she would be his best choice. She balances out the ticket in a lot of ways. Plus, they're not very ideologically dissimilar.

However, if he wants to truly balance the ticket while simultaneously bringing major (positive) press attention & a significant fan base to his campaign, then he'd be wrong to choose anybody but Warren.

I agree with the assessment and would be fine with Harris, even though my personal favorite for Uncle Joe's number two is Congresswoman Nanette Barragan, who represents California's 44th District. At 43 years (44 on election day), she's young, Latina, progressive, but not too far left either. She had endorsed Kamala before the dropout. Joe Biden has already strong support from the African American community, so having a Latina on the ticket may boost cruicial Hispanic turnout in the important Sun Belt battlegrounds like Arizona, Florida and potentially Texas. In addition, Barragan has a clean record, no baggage and when you watch her, she's well articulated. As a fresh new face with local and congressional experience, she would be great addition to the experienced statesman Biden. Whether Biden serves one or two terms, he could function as a bridge to the Democratic Party's future, that a Vice President Nanette Barragan would represent. Younger Democrats would also be assured that President Biden will fill his administration with a broad range of people that include minorities and women. And lastly, even though it shouldn't be a criteria, I may note she's also very attractive.

[President Johnson]

https://twitter.com/ezraklein/status/1208086957118480385

One of the weirdest things for me about this primary, and the modern Democratic Party, is how Biden and even Pelosi are labeled by some progressives as super moderates who don't have a liberal bone in their body, even though Biden and Pelosi supported every progressive reform made over the last 20 years (if not longer) and are in favor of further progressive reforms. To me, there's a much bigger gap between Biden and congressional Blue Dogs (who are actually moderate) then there is between Biden and Warren.

I couldn't agree more. If elected, Joe Biden would be the most liberal president in American history. Some might argue FDR and LBJ were, but they're just in part comparable since these two served in completely different times. Even the notion Joe Biden is a centrist or would be a member of the Tories in the UK or CDU in Germany is bogus. He's a center-left guy on almost all issues; he's just not far-left. Even Bernie isn't, since he doesn't adovate for complete government control of the private sector.

[President Johnson]

Quote from: Tender Branson on April 23, 2019, 02:59:03 pm

Quote from: President Johnson on April 23, 2019, 02:58:06 pm

Quote from: Tender Branson on April 23, 2019, 02:49:11 pm

Joe Biden has a 80s, 90s mindset as a politician.

This doesn’t fit today’s Democratic Party and that’s why he’ll collapse to ca. 5% by Christmas.

I'll bump this if he's still leading by that time.

You are welcome to do so ...

BUMP!


Uncle Joe is still leading the national polls in the upper 20s and lower 30s, as well as most state polls. A prime example how he has been underestimated since the start.

[President Johnson]

Weird and unnecessary lie from Biden on OBL raid, don't see the point in giving the Trump campaign ammo like this.

https://twitter.com/TrumpWarRoom/status/1213233184445542400

I agree on this one, he advised against due to the enormous risk. Even Hillary confirmed that he advised Obama not to give the order in a recent interview with Howard Stern.

[President Johnson]

This is how a president sounds like.

[President Johnson]

As long as Bernie keeps the nomination going, Biden will lose support, and the only support Biden has is the South. Biden need a quick knock out to win the nomination,  but he doesnt get it. Biden has lost female voters, due to his corruption, just like Trump has. Jill Biden has been sidelined since the Hunter Biden story broke on Ukraine.

I dont know why Johnson and Bagel support such corruption,  Biden has the lowest amount of donations given to him online

Why do you continue to repeat the bogus soundbite Joe Biden is "corrupted" when there is zero proof or evidence he actually did something wrong? All he did with regard to Ukraine is carrying out the policy of the Obama Administration to fire an ineffective and corrupt prosecutor. This was also the same policy than other western countries including the European Union adopted. Even when Hunter Biden should not have taken the job at Burisma due to bad looks, even he has not been accused of any wrongdoings while in Ukraine. It's a fake scandal orchestrated by Donald Trump and his crownies because they are afraid of Joe Biden. Donald Trump is the only "corrupted" person in the 2020 race.

[President Johnson]

The God Emperor is tweeting nonsense on Mike Bloomberg and that he (Trump) saved pre-existing conditions; Joe Biden has a response:

https://twitter.com/JoeBiden/status/1216788361198866434

[President Johnson]

Edit: Hope he picks a cool lady to be his Vice President. Atleast make something about the ticket exciting.

Joe Biden/Nanette Barragan is a dream ticket.

[President Johnson]

Edit: Hope he picks a cool lady to be his Vice President. Atleast make something about the ticket exciting.

Joe Biden/Nanette Barragan is a dream ticket.

Why her as VP?

Because she's a very good balance to Joe Biden. She's a woman of course, only in her mid 40s and Latina. Hispanics will be absolutely pivotal to turn out in November. Probably even more so than African Americans, who are already solidly backing the Biden candidacy. Barragan is progressive, but not too far left either, has no baggage and has charisma. The only issue that could be used against her in a relatively short experience in Washington, but that will be less of a factor with someone like Joe Biden at the top of the ticket. In contrary, someone like Mayor Pete should probably pick a more experienced running mate.

Of course, there are other good picks for him like Kamala Harris, Val Demings, Tammy Baldwin, CCM or even Gretchen Whitmer. But Barragan is my favorite. Joe Biden could be a bridge to party's future that Barragan represents. No matter whether he serves one or two terms, she could then run to replace him as president.

[President Johnson]

Biden's idiot supporters arguing sincerely that he hasn't supported cuts to Social Security throughout his career has to be the most surreal thing I've ever witnessed in politics. This is a group of people genuinely more delusional than Trump supporters! It actually makes sense of how Trump is able to lie the way he does, to be quiet honest.

Lmao, Joe Biden has opposed Paul Ryan's calls for cutting social security during the Obama administration. And in the 1990s, he advocated for a temporary pay freeze. It's even ridiculous for bringing this up 25 years later. And if we do, we should also talk about the very fact, Saint Bernard has opposed the Brady Bill (which Joe Biden wrote and passed) and time and time voted against gun control measures.

Unlike a significant number of Sanders and Trump supporters, Biden supporters aren't cultists. Following a cult has never been healthy for the political climate. This is why their preferred candidate (Joe Biden) will get stuff done as president, where Bernie won't get much passed through congress. And Bernie Bros are delusional if they think rallies in Kentucky will make Moscow Mitch so afraid that he passes their agenda.

[President Johnson]

Biden's idiot supporters arguing sincerely that he hasn't supported cuts to Social Security throughout his career has to be the most surreal thing I've ever witnessed in politics. This is a group of people genuinely more delusional than Trump supporters! It actually makes sense of how Trump is able to lie the way he does, to be quiet honest.

Lmao, Joe Biden has opposed Paul Ryan's calls for cutting social security during the Obama administration. And in the 1990s, he advocated for a temporary pay freeze. It's even ridiculous for bringing this up 25 years later. And if we do, we should also talk about the very fact, Saint Bernard has opposed the Brady Bill (which Joe Biden wrote and passed) and time and time voted against gun control measures.

Unlike a significant number of Sanders and Trump supporters, Biden supporters aren't cultists. Following a cult has never been healthy for the political climate. This is why their preferred candidate (Joe Biden) will get stuff done as president, where Bernie won't get much passed through congress. And Bernie Bros are delusional if they think rallies in Kentucky will make Moscow Mitch so afraid that he passes their agenda.

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Only people who have no rational arguments are coming up with such answers that have little substance. Proves my point right.

[President Johnson]

Too bad Biden is corrupted, as it seems, if he would of ran in 2016, he might have gotten away with it, but not in 2020, and hopefully he loses. Biden isnt Hilary due to fact Bill Clinton did way more as Biden did as Veep. Biden didnt do much as Veep anyways

What the heck are you talking about? Joe Biden was a key player in the Obama Administration, who, with his longstanding connections to lawmakers, was entrusted with several negotiations on Capitol Hill to get things passed. He was also heavily involved in foreign and military policy, where Obama relied on his experience. The two major reasons he was picked for the job and his appeal to blue collar workers. The comparison with Bubba is kind of absurd, since he was the president while Joe was a loyal vice president who had no intention to overshadow his boss (and I'd argue Obama was a better president than Clinton on most issues besides foreign policy). And the "corrupted" stuff has already been debunked hundreds of times. It's a made-up story from Donald Trump and his crownies because they are afraid of him.

[President Johnson]

Another great ad. Whomever the campaign hired for the ads does a heck of a job.

[President Johnson]

If all the Bernie camp is coming up with are unsubstantiated claims from random Twitter guys of Biden wanting to cut Social Security during the Obama years (when he's on record to oppose Paul Ryan) and his call 25 years ago to freeze spending to keep it solvent and avoid a shutdown, then it's laughable.

We could also remind folks that Saint Bernard time and time again voted against gun control measures during these years and opposed the Brady Bill, which Joe Biden wrote and helped to get passed. It was one of the most significant legislative actions in recent years. How many meaningful bills has Bernie authored that got enacted into law?

[President Johnson]

Another great ad:

[President Johnson]

I love this!

[President Johnson]

If Joe Biden is fourth of fifth in Iowa, I have a hard time seeing him regaining a frontrunner status, especially due to the shortfall in campaign contributions. He will go on to do poorly in New Hampshire as well and lose Nevada. I even don't excuse his weak Iowa performance as him being a "bad fit" for the state's primary. Yes, Iowa Democrats aren't his core base, but he's been campaigning really hard, gotten a ton of high-profile endorsements and it didn't pay off at all. It disappoints me greatly, because I like Joe Biden so much. But if that's the reality, so be it.

With that being said, I hope he either regains strength to win the nomination or give his campaign a quick and painless end to clear the path for another moderate candidate. If Joe Biden exits early, I'm all in for Mike Bloomberg at first and Mayor Pete at second. Two awesome men with different individual assets. Should Bernie be the nominee, despite my reservations and my dislike for the cult around him, I will support him. Trump needs to go and be replaced with someone who isn't an embarrassing laughingstock and who at least tries to do something for ordinary folks and against climate change.

[President Johnson]

https://twitter.com/SteveGuest/status/1224757883293880327 hahahahahaha

I admit, this is a bad idea unless there is serious evidence of rigging or irregularities. Otherwise, you'd expect this kind of stuff from Donald Trump and his cronies.

[President Johnson]

Biden needs to be in the retirement home. That’s his crowd.

I’m 30. I’m 100% for Biden.

Hell, I'm 20, & I'm also 100% for Biden. Guess I'm packing my bags from my dorm to a retirement home first thing on Monday morning!

I'm 28 and 100% behind Joe Biden. If I was a US citizen, I'd go out and try organize youth support for him because he can deliver on those things young folks care about.