AZ-SEN 2024: Away we Gallego (3/5 - Sinema OUT)

[Mr. Smith]

Your next big Fox News contributor, friends.

I imagine her eventual Fox show is going to have a truly terrible Sinema/cinema pun.

Imagine if it was the current title for this thread!

[Mr. Smith]

She's betting on Gallego and Finchem being nominated and then saying "look at the far left and far right" vote for a moderate instead! I think she absolutely could pull it off if she plays her cards right and plays for the moderates. She also has incumbency advantage which helps.

Part of it will probably depend upon the national "vibes". The worse things are, the more partisanship will kick in. It also depends upon how Gallego (or whoever the D is) ends up defining himself; by nature of primarying a moderate D incumbent from the left, he is going to be labeled a bunch of things that he probably doesn't want and will try and fight against.

And finally, how much of a microphone does the Media in AZ give Sinema? Do they paint her in a positive or negative light?

The closest recent example I can think to this situation would be AK-Sen 2010 where Lisa Murkowski squeeked to re-election in a write-in campaign after being defeated in the primary by a tea party R. But AK was a much smaller state, she had more of a local brand, and the seat was never seen as potentially competitive between the 2 major parties.

California 2018 in a sense, given that the state Democratic Party endorsed DeLeon and not Feinstein.

[Mr. Smith]

Serious question on here

Does anyone else feel like Sinema has been a bit singeled out by the media and the left? Being "moderate" or "bipartisan" isn't inherently a bad thing, and she's actually been decently effective and has been a key part of every big piece of bipartisan legislation that has passed, and that's a really hard thing to understate. I was thinking about this the other day; if instead of Sinema you had a more progressive D, I rlly wonder if some of these things would've happened. She seems decently liked by a number of colleagues on both sides which is impressive.

Also a lot of Senators have issues with holding town halls and staying in touch back home, as well as outside money. Yes it's a huge problem in our politics, but it's not a problem specific to Sinema.

I also don't find Sinema's personal personality to be as bad or toxic as many here seem to think, though stuff like the dramatic thumbs down on the minimum wage incerase (which I also oppose) was uncalled for.

My biggest gripe with Sinema rlly is just how close she holds her cards to her chest; she doesn't really say where she stands. I feel like her citicism could also be a little more constructive; propose amendments or alternatives rather than just hard no.

Her problems seem to be much more with her optics (which are frankly terrible) rather than her policy, effectiveness, or her herself.

I feel like I'm having somewhat of a political identity crisis on this race and I've gone back and forth between really disliking Sinema and being ok with her (and go back and forth on being a full-fledged Gallego supporter or torn between Gallego and Sinema).

Regardless of if she drops out, no way she stays viable unless this is a FL-2010 Sen situation all over again, and I think I've decided I will support whoever ends up being the most viable between Gallego and Sinema, which will most likely be Gallego.

I don't agree; there's a lot of democratic senators who are relatively moderate or bipartisan.

Lets compare her to Manchin.

Someone like Manchin has a viable political reason & a backstory to make him sceptical of actions that hurt the coal industry.

Sinema has no valid reason to say fight for the carried interest loophole?!!Other than the fact that she was wooed by wall street. That's the reason I cannot stand her- it's identical to Joe Lieberman shooting down the public option for no obvious reason.

His wife would stand to lose, as she's in the pharmecutical industry iirc.  This kinda exacerbates the point of Sinema truly having no real stakes for her position.

[Mr. Smith]

Hot take- Sinema is more likely to win in that scenario than Lake

Could Sinema be the next Charlie Crist?

Oh how I laugh if she loses 2030 or 2032 as a Republican to a DSA dues-payer.

[Mr. Smith]

https://twitter.com/FWIWnews/status/1655893932339871744

Has she decided to run as the de facto Republican like Lieberman in 2006?

She’s trying but thing is Republicans will also have actual nominee so she’s still in 10% land

Unless Cocaine Mitch pulls some strings.

[Mr. Smith]

https://twitter.com/yvonnewingett/status/1661764001792159746?s=46&t=-r8JGlJn...

So hypothetically, if Kari Lake somehow doesn’t run for Senate, could the GOP just go ahead and reluctantly endorse Sinema?

Seems we ought prepare for another Jeffords-esque switch that decides The Senate...or a Specter/Shelby/Nighthorse-Campbell style "winning side" switch from Sinema.

[Mr. Smith]

https://twitter.com/yvonnewingett/status/1661764001792159746?s=46&t=-r8JGlJn...

So hypothetically, if Kari Lake somehow doesn’t run for Senate, could the GOP just go ahead and reluctantly endorse Sinema?

Seems we ought prepare for another Jeffords-esque switch that decides The Senate...or a Specter/Shelby/Nighthorse-Campbell style "winning side" switch from Sinema.

What the heck are you talking about?

It's simple, Sinema could decide she'd have better luck working with McConnell than with Schumer and decide to switch to R-caucusing.

She was quite literally a socialist greenie last decade and has been moving further and further right since.

[Mr. Smith]

https://twitter.com/yvonnewingett/status/1661764001792159746?s=46&t=-r8JGlJn...

So hypothetically, if Kari Lake somehow doesn’t run for Senate, could the GOP just go ahead and reluctantly endorse Sinema?

Seems we ought prepare for another Jeffords-esque switch that decides The Senate...or a Specter/Shelby/Nighthorse-Campbell style "winning side" switch from Sinema.

What the heck are you talking about?

It's simple, Sinema could decide she'd have better luck working with McConnell than with Schumer and decide to switch to R-caucusing.

She was quite literally a socialist greenie last decade and has been moving further and further right since.

That ship sailed long ago. Right now it will do her no good and will look like opportunism at best and petulance at worst.

No disagreement.

Arguably switching to Indie in response to not being yasqueenkingmaker after Fetterman's win/bad poll numbers at the primary was already opportunistic and petulant to begin with.

So this would be nothing new.

[Mr. Smith]

Could Gallego end up like Rubio.

In which case, I'm laughing my butt off if Sinema ends up like Changing Charlie and gets thrown over by the GOP for similar reasons.

[Mr. Smith]

Kari Lake seems unwell from that article. She honestly thinks she won in 2022. It's actually really sad to see.

She has been ranting about 2022 ever since Hobbs was declared the winner. It's a new GOP trend not concede lost races anymore.

It’s not a trend, at least not yet. Trump and Lake are really the only ones who didn’t concede.

I don't recall Roy Moore ever conceding to Doug Jones either.