Virginia 2005 Gubernatorial Election

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Kaine

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when is the election?

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when is the election?

Election Day 2005.  November 8th I believe.

Then I believe that the election is still up in the air

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If Potts drops out and endorses Kaine (he hates Kilgore), it could do a lot towards swinging the race to Kaine. Let's hope it happens.

Pray it happens, for the sake of Virginia

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Be careful what you wish for.

I just consider Kaine the lesser of two evils actually. I really dont like either of them.

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Potts is in. He will not drop out.

Potts gets pro-choice GOP nod, decries death penalty ads

By BOB LEWIS
Associated Press Writer

RICHMOND, Va. (AP) -- Independent gubernatorial candidate Russ Potts, wounded by being locked out of the only debate televised statewide, promised Monday to remain in the race "till the last dog dies."

Potts quelled rumors that he might exit the campaign and side with Democrat Tim Kaine over Republican Jerry Kilgore.

"I would never, never get out of this race. I could never live with myself," Potts said at a news conference.

"Till the last dog dies, I will be in this race and you can bet on that," he said. "And I will not endorse anybody."

A dissident Republican from Winchester serving his fourth state Senate term, Potts criticized both of his opponents, but particularly Kilgore, whom he accuses of leading the most right-wing ticket ever in Virginia.

Potts said his campaign had been hurt by his exclusion from a televised debate Oct. 9 between Kilgore and Democrat Tim Kaine.

"It's obviously calculated by Mr. Kilgore that he does not want to ... face the music with the voters of Virginia between now and election day," Potts said. "He is hopeful that people will forget the fact that I was excluded from the debate."

Potts was barred from the debate for failing to muster at least 15 percent in statewide public opinion polls before the debate as ground rules dictated.

Potts spoke at a state Capitol news conference during which he received the endorsement of the Republican Majority for Choice, a national group that backs GOP candidates who support the Supreme Court's 1973 Roe v. Wade ruling that legalized abortion.

Of the three gubernatorial candidates, Potts has taken the clearest position in support of abortion rights.

"I have said unequivocally and repeatedly that if Roe v. Wade would be bounced back to the states and a governor had to make a decision about whether to overturn Roe v. Wade, I would strongly endorse the retention of Roe v. Wade and would ... veto any attempt to overturn that," Potts said.

Kaine has personal objections to abortion based on his Roman Catholic faith but says he would oppose efforts to outlaw abortion in Virginia.

In three debates this year, Kilgore refused to say whether he would sign a bill to outlaw abortion in Virginia if a new Supreme Court reverses Roe v. Wade. He has, however, advocated allowing abortions for rape and incest victims only if they have reported the attacks within seven days to police and would not rule out criminal penalties for abortion doctors.

He also implored Kilgore and Kaine to end their fight over the death penalty that has consumed the campaign the past week. He said it was an effort by both campaigns to avoid discussing such issues such as the state's transportation crisis and adequate public school and health care funding.

"Everywhere we go we hear the comment, `Is this the most important thing we can talk about in Virginia?'" Potts said.

"Regardless of who is elected in Virginia, I can assure you that the death penalty will be applied because ... if one candidate or the other went off the deep end and tried to grant clemency on every death penalty, make no mistake there would be huge amounts of legislation passed to put a halt to that kind of practice," he said.

Virginia's 94 executions since the Supreme Court reinstated the death penalty in 1974 rank second only to Texas.

Damn

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This race will be like a straw poll of what will happen in 06. Although anything can happen in a year.

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Kaine also seems to be making some head way of late. Strange, because lately he has been expressing himself more as a liberal.

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Kaine also seems to be making some head way of late. Strange, because lately he has been expressing himself more as a liberal.

Honesty usually flies better.

agreed, atleast he is strong enough to express what he thinks

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Actually, the public polls being released are weighted to the left (the private ones, as was the case in the 1980 Presidential election are more accurate).

Kaine has finally realized that he cannot plausibly pretend to be a moderate (Kilgore has sliced and diced him on that) and that Potts is NOT going to drop out and is pulling several points from Kaine.

Ergo, when dishonesty doesn't work, try honesty.

Do you think Kilgore will copy kaine and shift more to the right and say what he truly thinks in hope of killing what little momentum kaine has?

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1st out of 3 prediction:

(D) Kaine   47%
(R) Kilgore 48%
(I) Potts     5%
Other         1%

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1st out of 3 prediction:

(D) Kaine   47%
(R) Kilgore 48%
(I) Potts     5%
Other         1%

Who's the Other in the race?

Disgruntled virginians who think all 3 candidates are crooks write-in there own name,

actually I dont know I was going to give kilgore 49% but I have a gut fealing he wont get above 48.

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welcome to the forums wahooliberty

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Kilgore up 2% - Mason Dixon Poll.

VIRGINIA GOVERNOR
Kilgore 44%
Kaine 42%

still a tossup...

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Not really.

Look a little deeper at the "undecideds."

in 2004 the likely voters in that pool voted for Bush over Kerry by nearly three to one!

The undecideds are undecided because they recognize what just about everyone does, that Kilgore is a lackluster candidate.

On election day they will break to kilgore by about two to one.

Kaine has had a problem throughout the campaign as to his identity.

Either he could be Warner redux (and abandon Kaine's past positions on several issues) or he could be authenic Kaine (a liberal).

Kaine could have confessed that his past opposition to the right to keep and bear arms was mistaken. and agreed with Kilgore on the need to stop illegal immigation, in which case he would probably have a slight lead today.

Oh, and BTW, on the Mason-Dixon polls:

Candidate     Recent     July     Difference

Kilgore            44%       37%    +7%

Kaine              42          38       +4

Potts                5            9        -4

Yeah, but Potts is the wildcard factor right now. I wonder how many undecideds would break towards him?? It could swing the election either way.

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The nascar car that had kilgore for governor imprinted on the side crashed in the race on sunday......could be a bad omen....

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Kaine is not likely to win, but he has a shot.

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2nd out of 3 predictions:

(D) Kaine   49% (47)
(R) Kilgore 48% (48)
(I) Potts     3%  (5)

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Kilgore's must be gettin worried by now

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NEW POLL!!
Done by: Center for Community Research - Roanoke College
Oct 23- Oct 30

Governor
Kaine (D) 44%
Kilgore (R) 36%
Potts (I) 5%
Undecided 15%

Lt. Governor
Byrne (D) 33%
Bolling (R) 32%

Attorney General
McDonnell (R) 39%
Deeds (D) 34%

http://web.roanoke.edu/x4522.xml

This is hysterically funny!

Deeds is beating McDonnell handily in the real world, Bolling is trouncing Bryne, and Kilgore has a modest lead over Kaine.

Imagine getting all three wrong!

I agree with you, except kaine will win by a hair

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Is northern virginia a solid dem area or is it a tossup or what? Just wondering

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Is northern virginia a solid dem area or is it a tossup or what? Just wondering

Northern Virginia has been trending Democratic, and it strongly supported Warner in 2001.  It is likely that Kaine will draw the most votes here and in his hometown, Richmond.  Hopefully, he can build on Warner's momentum.  His greatest weakness will be the panhandle, which is Kilgore's home.  Amazingly enough, despite the economic problems of that area (and southside Virginia in general) most people are single-issue voters and side with the Republicans over the values debate or gun control.  Sad, really.

Thanks for the info.

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Bush Will Campaign For Kilgore

Republican candidate for governor Jerry Kilgore plans to announce later today that President Bush will campaign with him in Virginia on Monday night.
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Two GOP sources confirmed that Bush plans to join Kilgore for their first public campaign appearance together in Richmond. The sources did not want to be identified because the formal announcement was expected to come from the White House first.

Whats Bushs approval rating in Virginia.