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« on: June 11, 2005, 07:36:33 PM »
« edited: June 11, 2005, 07:38:59 PM by nclib »

http://www.shelbystar.com/news2000/_disc4/00000771.htm


I vote 'no'. Respect cannot be legislated.
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« Reply #1 on: June 11, 2005, 07:57:20 PM »

"Sir" or "Madam" is certainly not necessary. However, any half-decent student would use "Mr.," "Mrs.," or "Miss."

I agree, though it still shouldn't be required.
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« Reply #2 on: June 12, 2005, 09:31:25 AM »

Why, States, should I respect someone for simply being older than me? I give due respect to those who I believe deserve it. But I will not respect someone like Opebo soley because they are older, and thus "more wise" than me. I judge people on their intellect, virtue, morals, and wiseness. I believe that respecting people just because of their age is taking the easy way out of life.

Well said, Alcon.
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« Reply #3 on: June 12, 2005, 01:41:15 PM »

Um, Jake has a picture of Karimov on his wall?

Obviously they didn't have message boards in 1944, and even if they did, FDR probably wouldn't be on one. If you can think of a better parallel to profile picture I would like to hear it.

I have signatures turned off, so I didn't know what you were talking about.


Nevermind then. Didn't mean to hijack the topic. Suffice it to say I don't understand why people nitpick at tiny little things which are barely about (or arent' really about) 'morality' and act all indignant when they willfully disregard the gargantuan moral issues affecting the world.

Because respect for your elders is the foundation of a polite society.

Care to elaborate?
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« Reply #4 on: June 12, 2005, 01:45:55 PM »
« Edited: June 12, 2005, 02:00:49 PM by nclib »

"Sir" or "Madam" is certainly not necessary. However, any half-decent student would use "Mr.," "Mrs.," or "Miss."

I agree, though it still shouldn't be required.

So kids should be allowed to address their teachers by first names without their permission? This is the moral decay of this nation right here.

A teacher can require it in their own classroom, but the state shouldn't be able to require it in all schools.
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« Reply #5 on: June 12, 2005, 01:59:41 PM »
« Edited: June 12, 2005, 03:26:25 PM by nclib »

"Sir" or "Madam" is certainly not necessary. However, any half-decent student would use "Mr.," "Mrs.," or "Miss."
I agree, though it still shouldn't be required.
So kids should be allowed to address their teachers by first names without their permission? This is the moral decay of this nation right here.
A teacher can require it in their own classroom, but the state shouldn't be able to require it everywhere.
I don't think that the intention is to require it everywhere - only in school.

I should have said 'A teacher can require it in their own classroom, but the state shouldn't be able to require it in all schools.'
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« Reply #6 on: June 12, 2005, 03:31:43 PM »

Um, Jake has a picture of Karimov on his wall?

Obviously they didn't have message boards in 1944, and even if they did, FDR probably wouldn't be on one. If you can think of a better parallel to profile picture I would like to hear it.

I have signatures turned off, so I didn't know what you were talking about.


Nevermind then. Didn't mean to hijack the topic. Suffice it to say I don't understand why people nitpick at tiny little things which are barely about (or arent' really about) 'morality' and act all indignant when they willfully disregard the gargantuan moral issues affecting the world.

Because respect for your elders is the foundation of a polite society.

Care to elaborate?

Respect for your elders generally leads to a respect for others later on in life. Do you think a child who sasses his grandmother or other family member and does "what they feel" is going to have much respect for other human beings as they get older? I am a firm believer in "spare the rod; spoil the child".

Maybe, maybe not. It is interesting to note that since the 1950s the importance of respecting your elders has decreased and respect for human rights (blacks, women, gays, etc.) has increased.
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« Reply #7 on: June 12, 2005, 03:59:06 PM »

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<<She also believes that if students are taught to show respect for teachers, they will begin to extend similar courtesy to their peers, thus reducing school fights.>>


Why not directly encourage respect for other students? For example, anti-bullying programs need to be used more often.
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« Reply #8 on: June 13, 2005, 06:41:47 PM »

Wow, from the response here it sounds like the Northeast and northwest are terrible places to live. No one says "sir" or "ma'am". Do you people even bother to hold doors open for women or open car doors for women anymore? No wonder they say northerners are so brash.

Opening doors for women is condescending to them.
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« Reply #9 on: June 13, 2005, 08:39:20 PM »

Wow, from the response here it sounds like the Northeast and northwest are terrible places to live. No one says "sir" or "ma'am". Do you people even bother to hold doors open for women or open car doors for women anymore? No wonder they say northerners are so brash.

Opening doors for women is condescending to them.

No it is not, and it shouldn't be sexist either. If two people are approaching a door, the most polite person will hold it open for the other, no matter what gender.

I should have clarified - opening doors only for women is a sexist gesture. Opening doors for both genders is fine.
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