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« Reply #75 on: September 24, 2020, 07:58:01 PM »

i can't wait for fox to show +6 biden for florida  Angry  Angry

BUHHHHHHHHHH nevada showed trump + 2 in the historical great surveymonkey polls - let's end these polls threads cuz biden obv has it - +11 biden win!!
You are starting to become a discount Olakawandi.

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« Reply #76 on: September 24, 2020, 08:00:47 PM »

i can't wait for fox to show +6 biden for florida  Angry  Angry

BUHHHHHHHHHH nevada showed trump + 2 in the historical great surveymonkey polls - let's end these polls threads cuz biden obv has it - +11 biden win!!

If you've got to cite SurveyMonkey for your backup, you should quietly withdraw from the playing field.
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« Reply #77 on: September 24, 2020, 08:01:52 PM »

Best news of the day! Splendid
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« Reply #78 on: September 24, 2020, 08:03:52 PM »
« Edited: September 27, 2020, 12:29:24 PM by ultraviolet »

i can't wait for fox to show +6 biden for florida  Angry  Angry

BUHHHHHHHHHH nevada showed trump + 2 in the historical great surveymonkey polls - let's end these polls threads cuz biden obv has it - +11 biden win!!

Please try to at least form coherent thoughts
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« Reply #79 on: September 24, 2020, 08:05:20 PM »
« Edited: September 25, 2020, 02:20:21 AM by Monstro »

So here on Atlas this is being taken as gold standard material, but the ABC/Washington Post poll is outlier garbage?


LOL

The RV screens for ABC/Wapo weren't really outliers (+1 Biden in FL, +2 Biden in AZ) but their LV screens certainly were.

You can't forget the obvious red flag of Tucson being competitive.....somehow....but Biden winning Maricopa huge. Lol

If Biden greatly outperforms polls in Arizona & Texas, there needs to be a long conversation about broadening the "Nevada problem" as the "Southwest problem"
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« Reply #80 on: September 24, 2020, 08:11:44 PM »

Ralston seems to express doubt with results (probably NV at least)



He’s just trying to play the horse race narrative as he usually does right before early voting.

I mean tbf, Biden probably isnt winning Nevada by 11
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« Reply #81 on: September 24, 2020, 08:26:09 PM »

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« Reply #82 on: September 24, 2020, 08:28:26 PM »

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« Reply #83 on: September 24, 2020, 08:30:26 PM »

So here on Atlas this is being taken as gold standard material, but the ABC/Washington Post poll is outlier garbage?


LOL

The RV screens for ABC/Wapo weren't really outliers (+1 Biden in FL, +2 Biden in AZ) but their LV screens certainly were.

You can't forget the obvious red flag of Tucson being competitive.....somehow....but Biden winning Maricopa huge. Lol

If Biden greatly outperform polls in Arizona & Texas, there needs to be a broader conversation in broadening the "Nevada problem" as the "Southwest problem"

That's absolutely true. There seems to be a disconnect when polling the Southwest.
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« Reply #84 on: September 24, 2020, 09:06:39 PM »

I guess that this debunks the idea that RBG dying would save Trump.
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« Reply #85 on: September 24, 2020, 09:11:35 PM »
« Edited: September 24, 2020, 09:18:56 PM by lfromnj »

But Monstro told me only polls that are good for Trump get discussion?

Of course the polls reaffirming Tossup Georgia barely get 1-2 pages each of discussion while this one practically explodes in 6 hours
Looks like it goes both ways. Obviously here its the Ohio poll.
Of course boring Georgia polls that show a bare tilt towards Trump are not going to get discussion. The outliers always will.
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« Reply #86 on: September 24, 2020, 09:16:14 PM »

It would be hilarious if PA and FL end up not mattering because Joe wins OH.

Ohio counts its votes quickly. Ohio could be an early call.

We may be seeing a Trump collapse here.
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« Reply #87 on: September 24, 2020, 09:17:30 PM »

Biden at 50% in OH, with the vast majority of voters already locked in, is such an interesting data-point. Clinton had literally one poll showing her at 50% in OH, and it was seven months before the election. Biden's floor in OH is probably at least a couple points better than HRC did, which in itself is not good for Trump.
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« Reply #88 on: September 24, 2020, 09:24:45 PM »



Found all the blue avatars.
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« Reply #89 on: September 24, 2020, 10:03:37 PM »

Thank you Fox, very cool!


Hopefully it's not a trick poll. No complacency!
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« Reply #90 on: September 24, 2020, 10:13:10 PM »

Ralston seems to express doubt with results (probably NV at least)



He’s just trying to play the horse race narrative as he usually does right before early voting.

I mean tbf, Biden probably isnt winning Nevada by 11

My guess is it votes roughly the national margin but an Obama 08 esque result isn't impossible.
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« Reply #91 on: September 25, 2020, 12:08:02 AM »

Very excited to watch Karl Rove have another meltdown when Ohio puts Biden over the top.

This is what I say when people ask me what my sexual fantasy is.
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« Reply #92 on: September 25, 2020, 12:20:49 AM »

It would be hilarious if PA and FL end up not mattering because Joe wins OH.

Ohio counts its votes quickly. Ohio could be an early call.

We may be seeing a Trump collapse here.

This is why there's such a powerful argument for Biden to go all-out here. He's pretty much been playing footsie with us all summer, when he should be trying to slip us a roofie. That analogy took a turn. I'm sorry.
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« Reply #93 on: September 25, 2020, 03:48:28 AM »

Wow. Great polls.
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« Reply #94 on: September 25, 2020, 03:58:52 AM »

So here on Atlas this is being taken as gold standard material, but the ABC/Washington Post poll is outlier garbage?


LOL

The RV screens for ABC/Wapo weren't really outliers (+1 Biden in FL, +2 Biden in AZ) but their LV screens certainly were.

You can't forget the obvious red flag of Tucson being competitive.....somehow....but Biden winning Maricopa huge. Lol

If Biden greatly outperform polls in Arizona & Texas, there needs to be a broader conversation in broadening the "Nevada problem" as the "Southwest problem"

That's absolutely true. There seems to be a disconnect when polling the Southwest.

It's not really a mystery though. Hispanics are hard to poll and most companies don't do Spanish-language polling due to the costs involved.
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« Reply #95 on: September 25, 2020, 04:00:12 AM »

It would be hilarious if PA and FL end up not mattering because Joe wins OH.

Ohio counts its votes quickly. Ohio could be an early call.

We may be seeing a Trump collapse here.

This is why there's such a powerful argument for Biden to go all-out here. He's pretty much been playing footsie with us all summer, when he should be trying to slip us a roofie. That analogy took a turn. I'm sorry.

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« Reply #96 on: September 25, 2020, 05:05:05 AM »

It would be hilarious if PA and FL end up not mattering because Joe wins OH.

Ohio counts its votes quickly. Ohio could be an early call.

We may be seeing a Trump collapse here.

This is why there's such a powerful argument for Biden to go all-out here. He's pretty much been playing footsie with us all summer, when he should be trying to slip us a roofie. That analogy took a turn. I'm sorry.

Yoda!

Biden can and should go "all out in Ohio"...

Sure multiple media markets which overlap Western PA, MI, not to mention "stretch places" such as IN, KY  for down-ballot races...

Trump short on cash and now dependent on a small number of "Super Donors" to help cover the gap on the "Air Wars"...

Lived in OH for four Years in the early / mid '90s...

Sure Bill Clinton won in '92 / '96, but Perot played really well on the margins, especially bcs of MFG global outsourcing crap that DEM's and PUB's alike had been doing for decades to get on their knees and almost literally s**k the wand of MNC's shifting our Union jobs down South in the '70s/'80s and then later on "off-shoring became a thing"...

Dick Gephardt (D-SEN-MO)when he was running for Pres hit the nail on the head...

Regardless--- "Anglo" / White WWC Voters in OH know which side they are on, despite having been screwed over by Neo-Liberal Politicians of both Political Parties...

COVID-19 appears to have created a perfect storm in OH, where not only many of the O'Bama>Trump Senior voters are coming home, but additionally the swings in what consist of "Upper Income College Educated Anglo Voters" in places such as suburbs of Columbus and Exurbs of Cleveland are compounding Trump's problems in OH...

Honestly thinking places like Montgomery County, Appalachian suburbs of Dayton such as Kettering, as well as decaying former Auto Plant Towns such as Springfield might be ground zero when it comes to OH in 2020...

Most of Atlas is obsessed with NE-OH, where Biden will likely significantly outperform HRC, but it's not a "One Trick Pony" kinda state....

Biden got the $$$ bcs of small donors like me and my wife (despite the fact we donated a lot more a week for Sanders during the DEM PRIM)...

I support his campaign investment choices, messaging and themes...

Sure, don't see eye to eye with Biden on many major and fundamental issues, but still we should be able to work out deals as the "Left" with the new President without compromising our ideals, while simultaneously pushing the message forward....

Interesting random factoid that I learned when I was college student in OH.... one of the top states in the Union when it comes to Undergrad public/private Colleges....

Anyways--- I met Mike Dewine and his Wife back when "I was a boy in Ohio", and they were lovely people, while we sipped ice-tea and homemade cookies on the porch of his house way back in the early '90s...




I can roll other sounds and soundtracks from OH from back in the '90s... including arguably one of the best LGBTQ+ songs (Lesbian musician with focus on Ohio)...

Random Atlas posters hating on the Midwest & Ohio have no clue about the street marches and demos we did back in the late '80s / '90s to defend abortion clinics from Operation Rescue, mass mobilizations against the revival of the KKK / White Supremacist Political Formations in the Midwest, marching down the streets of the largest Cities in Ohio with ACT-UP and Queer Nation comrades?

Student population and expansion of University Education for the sons & daughters of working class people in OH created a "Ground Zero" of the New Left, especially after the murders at Kent State and the Nixon Administration exposed for what it was: "An Authoritarian Regime willing to use all means necessary to murder working-Class College Students in NE-OH, after the news reports came out regarding the expansion of the War from Vietnam into Cambodia".


Ohio and Iowa are on the "flip Biden" category because both States generally support local education, and generally every time the Republicans attempt to destroy the Unions PUB's back down as a result of massive collective resistance...

Si Se Puede... even in OH, despite Trump trying to make the "copper vote" and "firefighter vote" political.

Irish-American voters will vote for the "Real Catholic Democrat" Biden vs the "Poser Scottish Protestant" Trump, who squandered his daddies dollars, never fought in a war overseas, whose acts and works are lacking, plus the dude is just a dick kinda boss stereotype with no empathy, no understanding, no humanity, and ultimately appears to care much more about his own ego than anything else, while meanwhile our parents, relatives, friends, and Grandparents die at a rate, which is practically worse than average US Monthly combat deaths during WW II...

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« Reply #97 on: September 25, 2020, 07:32:18 AM »

F*** yeah

(Not sure if I believe this though)
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« Reply #98 on: September 25, 2020, 07:46:20 AM »

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« Reply #99 on: September 25, 2020, 08:38:20 AM »



Fox News's last national poll in 2016 was 48-44. They nailed Hillary's exact margin and were only off by 2% on the overall margin (which is expected given there was 8% undecided here)
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