2020 Presidential Election Results & Exit Polls commentary thread

[justfollowingtheelections]

I haven't been here in years.  What are the chances that the Democrats win 53/53 House seats in California?

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I haven't been here in years.  What are the chances that the Democrats win 53/53 House seats in California?

Very slim. LaMalfa and McCarthy will definitely hold on.

We shall see.  Both of them have a single digit lead, and in 2018, Republicans that were ahead by that little on election night ended up losing.  But even if you are right, 51-2 would be amazing.

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Is the presidential race over in North Carolina?  I don't see anyone talking about that state.  And what happened to the Senate race?

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A lot of the arguments for why we can’t nominate Bernie were proven to be moot tonight, regardless of who wins

Whoever made such comments has no connection to reality.  It's unfortunate that we ended up with this clown Biden, but what can you do.

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Is the presidential race over in North Carolina?  I don't see anyone talking about that state.  And what happened to the Senate race?

Still accepting mail-in ballots for a week (?)

So why is no one talking about NC then?  It's closer than any of the other states that haven't been called yet.

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So is Cunningham done in NC?

Also, what does everyone predict the final result in the CA house races will be?  I asked earlier if the Dems can win 53.  Does anyone thing they could win 50 at least?

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So is Cunningham done in NC?

He was a loser when Schumer tipped the scales in the primary and he's a dumba$$ loser now for costing us the Senate cause he couldn't keep it in his pants.

?? Was there a sex scandal or something?  Sorry, I had no idea.  I have been really busy with work lately.  I thought he was leading by a lot in the polls.

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Trump is going to win. He's leading in every uncalled state other than NV, AZ, and Maine.

LOL he could win obviously, but the fact that he's leading isn't enough reason to believe he will.

[justfollowingtheelections]

Trump is going to win. He's leading in every uncalled state other than NV, AZ, and Maine.

Biden is "only" up by 5% in Nevada and 7% in Maine, less than the margins which had been anticipated. Arizona is looking good for Biden, but it could very well be his only flip at this point (aside from NE-02). Florida, Texas, Iowa, and Ohio are already gone for him.

Any Democrat would have won Arizona.  It has nothing to do with Biden.  Just look at Kelly's numbers or Tipirneni's.  Biden deserves no credit IMO.  We were facing the most idiotic president ever, and somehow, the party elites managed to nominate someone who even makes Trump look smart (at times).

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I'm optimistic about Georgia and the midwest but we lost a lot of good House freshmen tonight. That's really bugging me.

Who?  Shalala?  LOL

I am hopeful we are going to pick a few more House seats in Cali (again).  I'd take a few more California Democrats over the likes of Shalala or Van Drew.

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I suspect that the Republicans will win the run-offs easily in Georgia, unfortunately.

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K friends imma sleep now but before I go a few thoughts:

1. Not the anticipated D wave election on the presidential level by a long shot but probably still a win for Biden. He's probably favored in AZ, WI, NV, and MI and that's all he needs. The fact that Trump still can't count on Georgia (an unexpected bright-ish spot for Dems) and (to a much lesser extent) North Carolina doesn't help either.

2. Legislative humiliation. I'm not sure if the Democrats will net lose seats in the House or not but they certainly aren't picking up an appreciable number as of my writing this. In the Senate, the Democrats are having to claw their way to Susan Collins's seat, which should tell you all you need to know. Once again, I think Georgia might be an unexpected bright-ish spot, but this is a straight up bad performance.

3. I seriously never want to hear another electability case again. Twice in a row we've nominated these ostensibly electable moderates who clearly energize no one after the party put its thumb on the scale, and twice in a row we've been burned. I said this before, but in 2016 Bernie performed well among WWC in the Rust Belt who Clinton lost and in 2020 Bernie performed well among Hispanics who, honestly, Biden might have lost absent COVID. This is just atrocious. All of the states Biden was supposed to lock down were either always going D (Arizona) or always going R (Florida, Ohio, etc.) and a progressive might have actually done better in states like Texas, Wisconsin, Michigan, and Nevada. Suffice it to say, barring a real risk of like nuclear war or something, I will not be voting for non-progressive Democrats for president for the foreseeable future, and I encourage any other progressives or even moderates who want to see the party actually win to take a similar pledge. I'm still going to vote and cure ballots for Warnock (and Ossoff if he gets to a runoff), but frankly downballot Dems are running out of goodwill as well.

You think Bernie would have won?

Yes. I think Biden probably won but Bernie's win would have been more comfortable. Obv unprovable, it's a counterfactual, but it's my take

Bernie would have certainly won.  Any functioning adult would have beaten Trump easily.  Biden isn't a functioning adult, and that's why it's so close.

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Pathetic result by Lujan by the way

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I don't know why anybody in their mind would believe that Berine whould be doing better after seeing what just happed to Biden in FL. The Fact is Trump effectively convinced many Cuban and Venezuelan voters that Joe Biden of all people was a socialist

Trump attacks worked and that should scare the heck out of AOC or any Dems that supports Berinie. If anything the Berinie whould has lost Florida by even bigger numbers
I also think that  Trump would have also won AZ and been well on his way to winning all of the Midwest states.

Bernie would have gotten other votes than Biden couldn't get.  Bernie had been very good at attracting apolitical voters, unlike Biden and other centrists, because he brings up issues the likes of Biden ignore.  Like you said, Trump and Republicans call everyone a communist or whatever, so there was nothing to gain by nominating a centrist like Biden.
Also if you think Bernie would have lost Arizona, you know absolutely nothing about Arizona and why it is becoming a blue state.  

[justfollowingtheelections]

I don't know why anybody in their mind would believe that Berine whould be doing better after seeing what just happed to Biden in FL. The Fact is Trump effectively convinced many Cuban and Venezuelan voters that Joe Biden of all people was a socialist

Trump attacks worked and that should scare the heck out of AOC or any Dems that supports Berinie. If anything the Berinie whould has lost Florida by even bigger numbers
I also think that  Trump would have also won AZ and been well on his way to winning all of the Midwest states.

Bernie would have gotten other votes than Biden couldn't get.  Bernie had been very good at attracting apolitical voters, unlike Biden and other centrists, because he brings up issues the likes of Biden ignore.  Like you said, Trump and Republicans call everyone a communist or whatever, so there was nothing to gain by nominating a centrist like Biden.
Also if you think Bernie would have lost Arizona, you know absolutely nothing about Arizona and why it is becoming a blue state.  

Who exactly?

Is that a serious question?  Do you even follow politics?

[justfollowingtheelections]

Yeah it’s time to push left on fiscal issues and right on social issues.

We don't have to push right on social issues.

[justfollowingtheelections]

I don't know why anybody in their mind would believe that Berine whould be doing better after seeing what just happed to Biden in FL. The Fact is Trump effectively convinced many Cuban and Venezuelan voters that Joe Biden of all people was a socialist

Trump attacks worked and that should scare the heck out of AOC or any Dems that supports Berinie. If anything the Berinie whould has lost Florida by even bigger numbers
I also think that  Trump would have also won AZ and been well on his way to winning all of the Midwest states.

Bernie would have gotten other votes than Biden couldn't get.  Bernie had been very good at attracting apolitical voters, unlike Biden and other centrists, because he brings up issues the likes of Biden ignore.  Like you said, Trump and Republicans call everyone a communist or whatever, so there was nothing to gain by nominating a centrist like Biden.
Also if you think Bernie would have lost Arizona, you know absolutely nothing about Arizona and why it is becoming a blue state.  

Who exactly?

Is that a serious question?  Do you even follow politics?

Absolutely. Answer the question and I’ll offer a rebuttal if I disagree. Isn’t that how a forum discussion works?

Well you clearly have no idea how many people who had given up on politics were inspired by Bernie.  I know a lot of them actually.  Nah, I think I'll go to sleep, because you are obviously not discussing in good faith.  Bye now.

[justfollowingtheelections]

I don't know why anybody in their mind would believe that Berine whould be doing better after seeing what just happed to Biden in FL. The Fact is Trump effectively convinced many Cuban and Venezuelan voters that Joe Biden of all people was a socialist

Trump attacks worked and that should scare the heck out of AOC or any Dems that supports Berinie. If anything the Berinie whould has lost Florida by even bigger numbers
I also think that  Trump would have also won AZ and been well on his way to winning all of the Midwest states.

Bernie would have gotten other votes than Biden couldn't get.  Bernie had been very good at attracting apolitical voters, unlike Biden and other centrists, because he brings up issues the likes of Biden ignore.  Like you said, Trump and Republicans call everyone a communist or whatever, so there was nothing to gain by nominating a centrist like Biden.
Also if you think Bernie would have lost Arizona, you know absolutely nothing about Arizona and why it is becoming a blue state.  

Exactly, Bernie would've won Arizona very handily. This is just mind-numbing right now.

What universe are you guys living in lol

the two dem that AZ just elected are Mark Kelly and Kristen Sinema
they are the furthest from Berinie as you possibly can get

Berinie?  You don't even know what his name is, and you expect us to take you seriously?

Those were the Democrats that were on the ballot, and thy voted for them.  What makes you think they wouldn't have voted for another Democrat.  Stop trolling now.