NY: Convicted Felon Donald Trump!

[DaleCooper]

Trumpworld already has plans to hit back. Good segment on Bannon about their plans to organize and retaliate.

The only real plan anyone in "Trumpworld" has is to shovel more disgusting food into their fat faces. A relatively small mob of savages will attack the occasional government building and that will be it. Republicans are desperate for their people to go out and cause the kind of destruction that the 2020 summer rioters caused, but I doubt it will happen.

[DaleCooper]

People are over the Stormy Daniels bulls**t and have been since 2018. This is ridiculous.

Good thing the justice system doesn’t make decisions based on what people are “over” or not.

Yeah, what a bizarre way to think about it, lol.

[DaleCooper]

There's a whole lot of "witch hunt" and "this is wrong" going on in thie thread, but a bizarre absence of "he's innocent" to accompany it.

They believe politicians are above the law.

[DaleCooper]

There's a whole lot of "witch hunt" and "this is wrong" going on in thie thread, but a bizarre absence of "he's innocent" to accompany it.

They believe politicians are above the law.

Which is sad, because the ability to hold current and former leaders accountable is a sign of good government, not bad government.

I think a lot of them are just scared of fat Republicans rioting again. They're scared of that and also scared of red states making fake charges against Democrats, maybe. Either way, I don't find it compelling. The president should not be allowed to break the law without consequence.

[DaleCooper]

Top minds of Atlas

This story died off quick as can be. 

Might’ve been a fundraising ploy. Doesn’t seem this is happening.

Just as I suspect. Trump will never be arrested. He’ll never be charged. It’s been fantasy talk since 2016

The grand jury keeps getting more an more incompetent, yet an indictment is supposed to "hurt" him.

Don't get your hopes up for next week either.

If I had to bet money, I don't think Trump will be indicted. I'll believe it when I see it. Its been 8 years of investigations.

I was wrong, I'm surprised Bragg decided to end Dems' 2024 hopes by indicting Trump for paying off a porn star.

Yeah, so many people were eager to vote for Biden and now they're going to vote for Trump because he's been indicted in a criminal investigation, and for no other reason. They're big fans of Biden's policies but they just can't bear to deny the Republican under indictment their vote. I know that this forum attracts a lot of bottom-of-the-barrel commentary, but can you not comprehend how out of touch with reality your posts are?

[DaleCooper]

First of all , neither of my parents voted for Trump and second of all how the heck couldn’t you see I was using Trump supporter language to try to convince them to not vote for Trump in the primary .

I'd like to apologize for the unreasonableness from many fellow red avatars. The inability to see things from a blue avatar perspective is too common in us, taken as a whole.

*Makes wanking gesture*

If you don't see the value in talking to the other side using their own talking point style to get an outcome you want, you don't have the guts to defend our political order. Sorry, not sorry.

Feeding their delusions of persecution is not building bridges with people who will come around on America when its put in terms they can understand. "You're correct that this is a massive conspiracy by your enemies" is not defusing the situation and defending our political order.

We don't want the lunatics lured back into the attic and kept in a lie-fueled rage. Republicans are sick, twisted people for putting their coalition's need for this poison above America's wellbeing.

The people whose talking style is objective lies need to confront realities - legal and numerical. If they can't accept criminals going to jail or their ideas being outnumbered, they need psychological help. If they turn to violence, they are criminals. Suggesting OSR has guts for lying to get what he wants - the same lies destroying our country - is ludicrous.

I don’t think charging candidates for campaign finance violations is a good precedent to have given how much Grey areas candidates already fall into when it comes to campaign finance . Do we want a to start a trend where pretty much every candidate starts to get indicated over this as that’s not something I want started at all .

The responsible thing to do is not charge Trump

YES!!!

God, I can't stand it when people complain about how bad American politics is but then they get all misty-eyed whenever a politician might get held accountable. I would love it if every corrupt politician got indicted.

[DaleCooper]

First of all , neither of my parents voted for Trump and second of all how the heck couldn’t you see I was using Trump supporter language to try to convince them to not vote for Trump in the primary .

I'd like to apologize for the unreasonableness from many fellow red avatars. The inability to see things from a blue avatar perspective is too common in us, taken as a whole.

*Makes wanking gesture*

If you don't see the value in talking to the other side using their own talking point style to get an outcome you want, you don't have the guts to defend our political order. Sorry, not sorry.

Feeding their delusions of persecution is not building bridges with people who will come around on America when its put in terms they can understand. "You're correct that this is a massive conspiracy by your enemies" is not defusing the situation and defending our political order.

We don't want the lunatics lured back into the attic and kept in a lie-fueled rage. Republicans are sick, twisted people for putting their coalition's need for this poison above America's wellbeing.

The people whose talking style is objective lies need to confront realities - legal and numerical. If they can't accept criminals going to jail or their ideas being outnumbered, they need psychological help. If they turn to violence, they are criminals. Suggesting OSR has guts for lying to get what he wants - the same lies destroying our country - is ludicrous.

I don’t think charging candidates for campaign finance violations is a good precedent to have given how much Grey areas candidates already fall into when it comes to campaign finance . Do we want a to start a trend where pretty much every candidate starts to get indicated over this as that’s not something I want started at all .

The responsible thing to do is not charge Trump

YES!!!

God, I can't stand it when people complain about how bad American politics is but then they get all misty-eyed whenever a politician might get held accountable. I would love it if every corrupt politician got indicted.

So you want a candidate investigated every time a PAC of theirs puts out an effective ad to see if they had any direct coordination in it . Is this the precedent we want set because that’s not one I want set.

 I also prefer the politics of America over any other nation on earth so no I don’t want us to emulate other nations .

Sure, why not? I don't think that's comparable, but generally speaking yes, I think there should be a lot of oversight on how politicians conduct their campaigns.

[DaleCooper]

I believe NY had passed a law back in 2019 that bans the release of mugshots. It was a good law to pass because websites would have mugshots of people whose cases had been long dismissed and sealed

Mugshots and names of suspects would not be released until they are convicted, ideally.

[DaleCooper]

Alvin Bragg needs weight watchers, that fat idiot didn't visit a buffet he didn't like

So you're reduced to body shaming the DA now?

It would be a fair statement if Trump himself wasn't literally 450 pounds overweight.

[DaleCooper]

He's not getting convicted. Anyone who ever expected someone like Trump to be held accountable is delusional. Go watch some fantasy show like West Wing.

[DaleCooper]

If Biden announced support for pardoning Trump, a lot of obscure DNC bylaws would be scoured very deeply.

There's no advantage to him doing this, Trump cultists aren't voting for him no matter what. Biden and the Dems need to beat him over the head with this. 34x convicted felon Donald Trump.

I legitimately might consider abstaining from voting if Biden had any hand in pardoning Trump. It's one of the only things he could do that would lose my vote.

[DaleCooper]

Apparently conservative world has decided that Republican politicians should be immune from all criminal prosecution. If this is their platform then by all means I hope they go for it. "Politicians should be above the law" is not popular in the real world.

[DaleCooper]

Apparently conservative world has decided that Republican politicians should be immune from all criminal prosecution. If this is their platform then by all means I hope they go for it. "Politicians should be above the law" is not popular in the real world.

Not sure how they're going to fulfill their long standing dream of sending Obama and the Clintons to jail then.

They're not Republicans.

[DaleCooper]

I'm sorry, it's just straight delusional to act as if voters don't/won't care about this.

It's coping, is what it is. Criminal convictions are still taken seriously by the public. If he'd even been found not guilty on a single charge, that would've softened the blow quite a bit, but this is a real criminal case with a jury. This isn't the Senate holding a trial, this is the same type of court that could send you or me to jail. Voters recognize that.