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« on: July 14, 2009, 05:56:01 PM »

There are rumors that Rep. Eric Cantor is thinking of running for president in 2012.

House members have a very poor track record of White House bids. Dick Gephardt's runs in 1988 and 2004 were credible, but he failed to get very far either time. The last member of the House to get anywhere close to the nomination was Rep. Morris Udall (D-AZ) in 1976, who was the runner-up to Carter.

So I doubt Cantor would get very far. But he is in the party leadership, which gives him more credibility.

What would a matchup between Obama and Cantor be like? Possible running mates?

I'd imagine it's Obama/Biden vs. Cantor/Pawlenty

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« Reply #1 on: July 14, 2009, 09:05:08 PM »

Cantor might carry Virginia, and will carry florida and the jewish vote.
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« Reply #2 on: July 14, 2009, 09:45:00 PM »

Cantor might carry Virginia, and will carry florida and the jewish vote.

LOL.  No.
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« Reply #3 on: July 14, 2009, 10:25:57 PM »


LOL. Yes, your telling me Cantor can not at least  get 40% of the jewish vote?
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« Reply #4 on: July 14, 2009, 10:39:28 PM »


LOL. Yes, your telling me Cantor can not at least  get 40% of the jewish vote?

lol. He would be lucky to get 20% of the Jewish vote. He is just too conservative and he would lose NOVA so no Virginia, and he would lose the Jewish, Hispanic and White Moderate women, so no Florida, either.
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« Reply #5 on: July 14, 2009, 10:42:00 PM »

Cantor is one of my favorite representatives, but unfortunately it looks like he will not even run, let alone win. Sad
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« Reply #6 on: July 14, 2009, 10:51:03 PM »

Cantor is one of my favorite representatives, but unfortunately it looks like he will not even run, let alone win. Sad

Agreed. But I think he has potential. He needs to run for a higher office. Or become speaker or something before he becomes a legitimate contender.
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« Reply #7 on: July 14, 2009, 10:55:49 PM »

Cantor is one of my favorite representatives, but unfortunately it looks like he will not even run, let alone win. Sad

Agreed. But I think he has potential. He needs to run for a higher office. Or become speaker or something before he becomes a legitimate contender.

That is what I think also. He needs to win statewide office (or stay in the House and become Speaker or something else, currently not likely) before I would consider him a major contender, and well...he is obviously not going to be governor in 2010, and there is no senate election in 2010, so it seems like he will not run.
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« Reply #8 on: July 14, 2009, 11:10:15 PM »


LOL. Yes, your telling me Cantor can not at least  get 40% of the jewish vote?

LMAO  WTF???   How exactly does he manage that??  No VA, No FL, and sure as hell no 40% of the Jewish vote.
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« Reply #9 on: July 14, 2009, 11:19:43 PM »


LOL. Yes, your telling me Cantor can not at least  get 40% of the jewish vote?

McCain got 22%.  Cantor would be lucky to get 18% of the vote.
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« Reply #10 on: July 14, 2009, 11:24:48 PM »
« Edited: July 14, 2009, 11:26:19 PM by Mideast Assemblyman officepark »


LOL. Yes, your telling me Cantor can not at least  get 40% of the jewish vote?

McCain got 22%.  Cantor would be lucky to get 18% of the vote.

Why would Cantor get a smaller percent of the Jewish vote than McCain? I disagree with the notion that he would get 40 percent, but still.
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« Reply #11 on: July 14, 2009, 11:27:12 PM »


LOL. Yes, your telling me Cantor can not at least  get 40% of the jewish vote?

McCain got 22%.  Cantor would be lucky to get 18% of the vote.

Why would Cantor get less of the Jewish vote than McCain? I disagree with the notion that he would get 40 percent, but still.

Because moderate Jews who liked McCain will not vote for Cantor; he's too conservative.  He may get some Orthodox Jews, but he'd lose a lot of Conservative and Reform Jews along the way.
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« Reply #12 on: July 14, 2009, 11:35:46 PM »


LOL. Yes, your telling me Cantor can not at least  get 40% of the jewish vote?

McCain got 22%.  Cantor would be lucky to get 18% of the vote.

Why would Cantor get a smaller percent of the Jewish vote than McCain? I disagree with the notion that he would get 40 percent, but still.

Cause No Republican has done better then 25% since I think Nixon. In fact since Reagan I believe Republicans have been below 20%. So that means that 2008 was an aberration or maybe the beggining of a trend, but whatever, I doubt Cantor gets more then 20% and probably somewhere in the teens.
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« Reply #13 on: July 15, 2009, 06:26:34 PM »

Cantor could be in the top tier of running mates considered by the GOP nominee.  But PL, you answered your own question, really...House Members don't win nominations.

And I would suggest that Mike Pence might have a better shot than Cantor.  And not much of one.

BTW, it's great to see you posting more.  I always enjoy your contributions.
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« Reply #14 on: July 17, 2009, 06:35:08 PM »

Economy still in the dumps, Obamas approval in the 40s.

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« Reply #15 on: July 21, 2009, 05:01:40 PM »

Trust me, as a proud Jewish Democrat, Cantor is not gonna hit 20% of the Jewish vote.
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« Reply #16 on: July 21, 2009, 05:09:19 PM »

This is how I expect the generic Non- Sarah Palin Republican (besides Virginia) to do in 2012, barring any unseen changes.

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« Reply #17 on: July 21, 2009, 07:18:38 PM »

Cantor might carry Virginia, and will carry florida and the jewish vote.

No more than George McGovern carried South Dakota or the Scots-Irish vote in 1972:




Green goes for Obama if Cantor picks a d@mnyankee running mate; yellow goes to Obama if Cantor picks a Southern reactionary.

Face it: Neither Representative Ferraro nor Kemp, respected as they were, were able to deliver New York State for their tickets.
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« Reply #18 on: July 22, 2009, 01:25:19 AM »



Obama wins 52-47 nationally.
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« Reply #19 on: July 22, 2009, 07:09:30 AM »

As of Virginia. Yes, Cantor is from this state, but this doesn't mean he would be able to switch his home states. Representatives not really switches their states, it's hard to them, because they represents just their districts.

I know it much farer example, but can you imagine Bachmann delivering Minnesota, Minnick delivering Idaho or Issa delivering California?
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« Reply #20 on: July 22, 2009, 11:11:52 AM »

Trust me, as a proud Jewish Democrat, Cantor is not gonna hit 20% of the Jewish vote.

Um.. McCain and Bush did, so I think he will too
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« Reply #21 on: July 22, 2009, 04:17:29 PM »

Trust me, as a proud Jewish Democrat, Cantor is not gonna hit 20% of the Jewish vote.

Um.. McCain and Bush did, so I think he will too

If he won the election(a big if) he would probably get 5-6% above what most winning Republicans get, and reach 30%. Not that this means anything. The Jewish vote doesn't really matter that much, there are so few of them, and being Jewish as a Republican will probably cause him to lose more votes than he will gain. What really matters is Jewish money, and that is where Cantor would benefit, though far less than if he was a Democrat.
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« Reply #22 on: July 23, 2009, 12:59:00 AM »

Trust me, as a proud Jewish Democrat, Cantor is not gonna hit 20% of the Jewish vote.

Um.. McCain and Bush did, so I think he will too

He sure as hell has a much better chance at not cracking 20% than the asinine 40% comment.  McCain got 23% of the Jewish vote, and Cantor is quite a bit to the right of McCain.
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