Opinion of soupers

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Souperism

FFs of course. I'd be one in a heartbeat, if I was ever part of Catholicism, it sure as hell wouldn't take much to get me to abandon it of course.

[John Dibble]

False dichotomy, and one that couldn't be applied to the whole group even if it wasn't.

On those who actually opened, ran, and contributed to the charities in question it is a positive mark for them overall.

On those who converted to ensure their kids were fed, I suppose you could say this is a positive but part of me doesn't really see it that way. The thing is that you're supposed to take care of your kids, and most people want to do this at an instinctual level anyways. It certainly doesn't lessen my opinion of them, but it's not really that much of a positive either.

[12th Doctor]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Souperism

FFs of course. I'd be one in a heartbeat, if I was ever part of Catholicism, it sure as hell wouldn't take much to get me to abandon it of course.

You really are sick sometimes, you know that?

[Joe Republic]

Are we talking about those who bribed starving people with food to convert to their religion, or the people being bribed?

[12th Doctor]

Are we talking about those who bribed starving people with food to convert to their religion, or the people being bribed?

Does it really matter?

[Joe Republic]

Are we talking about those who bribed starving people with food to convert to their religion, or the people being bribed?

Does it really matter?

Absolutely.  The former exploited starving, desperate people in order to indoctrinate them.  The latter were, well, desperate obviously.

The Quakers showed how religion-based charity should be done.

[12th Doctor]

Are we talking about those who bribed starving people with food to convert to their religion, or the people being bribed?

Does it really matter?

Absolutely.  The former exploited starving, desperate people in order to indoctrinate them.  The latter were, well, desperate obviously.

The Quakers showed how religion-based charity should be done.

My point is that, either way, you are dealing with the root evil of obvious exploitation.

[Joe Republic]

You can hardly call them horrible people for subjecting themselves to exploitation in order to survive.  Of course, they weren't exactly freedom fighters either, but therein lies the problem with the retarded FF/HP dichotomy.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

Are we talking about those who bribed starving people with food to convert to their religion, or the people being bribed?

The latter.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Souperism

FFs of course. I'd be one in a heartbeat, if I was ever part of Catholicism, it sure as hell wouldn't take much to get me to abandon it of course.

You really are sick sometimes, you know that?

For saying it wouldn't take much for me to abandon a religion I greatly disagree with? I'd say that'd appy to almost everyone.

[John Dibble]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Souperism

FFs of course. I'd be one in a heartbeat, if I was ever part of Catholicism, it sure as hell wouldn't take much to get me to abandon it of course.

You really are sick sometimes, you know that?

For saying it wouldn't take much for me to abandon a religion I greatly disagree with? I'd say that'd appy to almost everyone.

Hell, you've already pretty much abandoned the parts of Christianity that aren't convenient to you.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

I go to a very liberal church (not that often, but it's still my church.) I doubt most there are much different than I am, after all it's urbanites mostly my age.

[Keystone Phil]

Why don't you just do "Opinion of Catholics" and bury the subject already?  Oh yeah, because it's BRTD.  You really have problems.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

Catholics are such a large and diverse group that not all can be classified as Freedom Fighters or Horrible People. Obviously I consider the church itself a horrible institution and an abomination and perversion to my religion, but many individual Catholics have been Freedom Fighters.

[Alcon]

Catholics are such a large and diverse group that not all can be classified as Freedom Fighters or Horrible People.

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[Јas]

You can hardly call them horrible people for subjecting themselves to exploitation in order to survive.  Of course, they weren't exactly freedom fighters either, but therein lies the problem with the retarded FF/HP dichotomy.

Spot on.

[John Dibble]

Catholics are such a large and diverse group that not all can be classified as Freedom Fighters or Horrible People.

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No need to be speechless about his blatant hypocrisy - it's not new.