How do certain sports fans vote?

[UpcomingYouthvoter]

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I've been on sports forums for while now and they are so conservative that it blows my mind.

NFL 110 Rep/105 Dem

NHL 45 Rep/75 Dem

MLB 73 Rep/50 Dem

NBA 25 Rep/85 Dem


This is just my guess

Dang. I enjoy watching hockey.

By the way, anyone got track for the record? I doubt there are any "fans" outside of the participants, and the only time I can think of someone watching it is during the Olympics, but are there any guesses for that?

[UpcomingYouthvoter]

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I've been on sports forums for while now and they are so conservative that it blows my mind.

NFL 110 Rep/105 Dem

NHL 45 Rep/75 Dem

MLB 73 Rep/50 Dem

NBA 25 Rep/85 Dem


This is just my guess

Dang. I enjoy watching hockey.

By the way, anyone got track for the record? I doubt there are any "fans" outside of the participants, and the only time I can think of someone watching it is during the Olympics, but are there any guesses for that?

Maybe Dem? Any thoughts on the graph I posted with sports like NFL learning heavily Republican?

[SmokingCricket]

Football: Republican 50 - Democrat 50
Basketball: Democrat 90 - Republican 10
Baseball: Democrat 55 - Republican 45
Hockey: Democrat 85 - Republican 15
Soccer: Democrat 85 - Republican 15
NASCAR: Republican 95 - Democrat 5
Golf: Republican 80 - Democrat 20
Tennis: Republican 70 - Democrat 30

[phk]

I see Sports in general being R with the exception of Basketball (strong minority presence).

In terms of White voters, I think all sports might be at least lean R.

[UpcomingYouthvoter]

I see Sports in general being R with the exception of Basketball (strong minority presence).

In terms of White voters, I think all sports might be at least lean R.

Even soccer/futball? That sport has to be R with minority support and the hostile towards the sport from the Republicans.

[charlestondxman]

In the South, most college football fans lean GOP. College basketball is mixed, depending on where you are. College baseball in this area is mostly solid Republicans.

High school football in this area is so universal it doesn't matter what party you are.

[Nichlemn]

What about people who don't care for any sports? I presume they're fairly Democratic, being disproportionately female and/or counter-cultural.

[UpcomingYouthvoter]

What about people who don't care for any sports? I presume they're fairly Democratic, being disproportionately female and/or counter-cultural.

Agree with that but there are females that are sports fans and have been few athletes that were part of counter-cultural/feminist movement such as Bill Walton and Billie Jean King. I would think they are more of socialist/green then Dems but I would put Democrats in second with far-right such as Alex Jones nutjobs in third for those that don't care about sports.

[Nichlemn]

What about people who don't care for any sports? I presume they're fairly Democratic, being disproportionately female and/or counter-cultural.

Agree with that but there are females that are sports fans and have been few athletes that were part of counter-cultural/feminist movement such as Bill Walton and Billie Jean King. I would think they are more of socialist/green then Dems but I would put Democrats in second with far-right such as Alex Jones nutjobs in third for those that don't care about sports.

More socialist/green than average, sure, but those groups are so small that it's very unlikely they make up a plurality. There's possibly an ultra-religious component, too.

I wonder what percentage of Americans fall into this category. The larger the percentage, the more likely it is be reflective of general preferences. FWIW, I'm a non-sports fan (albeit non-American), but I follow politics as if it were a sport.

[UpcomingYouthvoter]

What about people who don't care for any sports? I presume they're fairly Democratic, being disproportionately female and/or counter-cultural.

Agree with that but there are females that are sports fans and have been few athletes that were part of counter-cultural/feminist movement such as Bill Walton and Billie Jean King. I would think they are more of socialist/green then Dems but I would put Democrats in second with far-right such as Alex Jones nutjobs in third for those that don't care about sports.

More socialist/green than average, sure, but those groups are so small that it's very unlikely they make up a plurality. There's possibly an ultra-religious component, too.

I wonder what percentage of Americans fall into this category. The larger the percentage, the more likely it is be reflective of general preferences. FWIW, I'm a non-sports fan (albeit non-American), but I follow politics as if it were a sport.

Most American athletes don't give  about politics and if they do it's because of "god", taxes, gay marriage, and other stuff that makes them mostly vote Republican.  There is this movie called "Not just a game" that will share story about athletes politics, mostly from the left since David Zirin is progressive learning. http://youtu.be/-Jp09hFJZXI And I see politics as somewhat like sports but I see everything from music to art as politics.

[Del Tachi]

Another question:  Are college sport fans more conservative than those who follow professional teams?

Being from a college town, my family always followed college football, baseball, and basketball.  We destested pro-football.  I mean, who wants to watch fat, thirty year olds play football?  We almost never watched the Super Bowl, but the BCS National Championship was a BIG DEAL. 

So, my question is:  since professional sport teams are based in big cities while universities can be found in small towns, does this translate into the average college sport fan being more conservative than the average professional sport fan?

[Username MechaRFK]

Bumping this thread for some thoughts on how sports fan vote.

NFL: Republican. Mostly since white macho men are the target audience and the sport doesn't attract many liberal types to the sport.

NBA: Democratic since minority's are the target audience for the sport. Though like all sports, this one has many conservative leaning people as it's fan base.


NHL: Republican/Conservative. All the NHL fans I know of are big Stephen Harper supporters that hate the NDP and few Republicans that have negative opinions of Barack Obama. Also, most of this group idealize Don Cherry, the xenophobia European hating support the troops commentator/former head coach.

MLB: Republican since old white males are the biggest consumers and the sports nationalist ways of promoting the game.

[Lucius Quintus Cincinatus Lamar]

National Media Research did a study on this in 2008.  They found:

PGA went R +50
College football R +45
NASCAR R+40
NHL R+30
College Basketball R+15
NFL R+10
MLB R+5
Men's Tennis D+20
Major League Soccer D+40
Women's tennis D+55
NBA D+60
WNBA D+99

Other (possibly) surprising results, while drag racing (R+25) and motorcross (R+15) skewed Republican, Grand-Am racing (D+10), monster trucks (D+15) and WWE (D+60) skewed Democrat, pro-"wrasslin" very much so.

I also agree with Rockefeller, college football is a much better sport than NFL. It is much more passionate.  That is why only 4 NFL teams have a higher average attendance than the average SEC team and no NFL team has a higher average attendance than Tennessee, Georgia, LSU, Alabama, Florida or Auburn.

[Nichlemn]

National Media Research did a study on this in 2008.  They found:

PGA went R +50
College football R +45
NASCAR R+40
NHL R+30
College Basketball R+15
NFL R+10
MLB R+5
Men's Tennis D+20
Major League Soccer D+40
Women's tennis D+55
NBA D+60
WNBA D+99

Other (possibly) surprising results, while drag racing (R+25) and motorcross (R+15) skewed Republican, Grand-Am racing (D+10), monster trucks (D+15) and WWE (D+60) skewed Democrat, pro-"wrasslin" very much so.

I also agree with Rockefeller, college football is a much better sport than NFL. It is much more passionate.  That is why only 4 NFL teams have a higher average attendance than the average SEC team and no NFL team has a higher average attendance than Tennessee, Georgia, LSU, Alabama, Florida or Auburn.

Link?

[Nichlemn]

I'm curious about the college sports phemenon. It just doesn't exist to any real degree in NZ (and I think not many other places outside the USA). Personally, I think the concept of "student athletes" is dumb. Why unnecessarily bundle half a sociology degree with high level sports?

[Lucius Quintus Cincinatus Lamar]

National Media Research did a study on this in 2008.  They found:

PGA went R +50
College football R +45
NASCAR R+40
NHL R+30
College Basketball R+15
NFL R+10
MLB R+5
Men's Tennis D+20
Major League Soccer D+40
Women's tennis D+55
NBA D+60
WNBA D+99

Other (possibly) surprising results, while drag racing (R+25) and motorcross (R+15) skewed Republican, Grand-Am racing (D+10), monster trucks (D+15) and WWE (D+60) skewed Democrat, pro-"wrasslin" very much so.

I also agree with Rockefeller, college football is a much better sport than NFL. It is much more passionate.  That is why only 4 NFL teams have a higher average attendance than the average SEC team and no NFL team has a higher average attendance than Tennessee, Georgia, LSU, Alabama, Florida or Auburn.

Link?

My bad

http://nmrpp.com/assets/NMRPPsportspolitics.pdf

[Lucius Quintus Cincinatus Lamar]

I'm curious about the college sports phemenon. It just doesn't exist to any real degree in NZ (and I think not many other places outside the USA). Personally, I think the concept of "student athletes" is dumb. Why unnecessarily bundle half a sociology degree with high level sports?

Some of the programs, particularly football, makes ridiculous amounts of money for the schools.  I prefer college to pro because college athletes choose which school they want to attend and therefore (at least in theory) have more of a connection to the school and fellow players than a pro athlete who pretty much goes to the highest bidder.  Also, generally schools have a higher percentage of athletes from the state in which it is located.  So the University of Alabama's football team is much more representative of the state of Alabama than the New York Giant's football team is representative of the state of New York.

I also like the whole student athlete/amateur athlete (if you could really say college football players are "amateur") to pro athletes.  Amateur athletes show more dedication in that they have to make time for and sacrifice more for their sports compared to pro athletes who do it full time.

Are there not any college sports in NZ?  Track, rugby, gymnastics, rowing, etc?  I've always thought athletics was considered an integral part of a classical education.

[Hatman 🍁]

There's some college sports in Canada, but it's not as big as in the US (not even close).  However, the love of watching youth athletes is still there though, as junior hockey is quite popular.

NHL: Republican/Conservative. All the NHL fans I know of are big Stephen Harper supporters that hate the NDP and few Republicans that have negative opinions of Barack Obama. Also, most of this group idealize Don Cherry, the xenophobia European hating support the troops commentator/former head coach.

I can tell you there are still NDP hockey fans out there, and of course who cannot forget the iconic picture of Jack Layton in Habs jersey with a beer from the last election? Also, the return of the Jets helped the NDP win another provincial election in Manitoba.

[Nichlemn]

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Without paying the athletes. Nice.

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Then why not have some kind of "amateur league" that replicates college football entirely except the athletes don't need to do a college degree?

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They exist, but they're not followed much more than children's teams.

[Lucius Quintus Cincinatus Lamar]

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Without paying the athletes. Nice.

Though it is not a perfect system, big time college football programs "pay" their students room, board and tuition, worth at least $40k/year, which would be similar to minor league professional baseball.  Considering a college grad in the US makes over $2 million more during their lifetime than a non-grad, for the vast majority of college athletes who never go pro, it is a pretty good deal.

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It's possible, but universities are the only viable infrastructure for such an attraction.  The school I went to has a 60,000 seat stadium for a university of only 10,000 students in a town of only 10,000 people.  Outside a university setting, no one would be able to afford the stadium, coaches, equipment, medical staff, travel costs, etc.

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They exist, but they're not followed much more than children's teams.
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Personally, I love high school and elementary school sports.  In fact, I generally prefer them to professional teams.  You need to remember only a small percentage of colleges in the US have major athletic programs.  Most have programs that are probably similar to what you are use to in New Zealand.  In the state in which I live, we have 10-15 colleges/universities, but only 2-3 with big time athletic programs.

[Username MechaRFK]

Any New Yorker and New Englenders that have any idea on how New York and Boston sport teams vote in their area. I tend to see teams that have an older more white fanbase such as the Giants to have Republican leaning since they are the stereotype old white male that usually helps them win elections.

[Хahar 🤔]

Any New Yorker and New Englenders that have any idea on how New York and Boston sport teams vote in their area. I tend to see teams that have an older more white fanbase such as the Giants to have Republican leaning since they are the stereotype old white male that usually helps them win elections.

They all vote Democratic.

[Username MechaRFK]

Any New Yorker and New Englenders that have any idea on how New York and Boston sport teams vote in their area. I tend to see teams that have an older more white fanbase such as the Giants to have Republican leaning since they are the stereotype old white male that usually helps them win elections.

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They all vote Democratic.

What makes you think that besides that it's the Northeast?

[Nichlemn]

Any New Yorker and New Englenders that have any idea on how New York and Boston sport teams vote in their area. I tend to see teams that have an older more white fanbase such as the Giants to have Republican leaning since they are the stereotype old white male that usually helps them win elections.

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They all vote Democratic.

What makes you think that besides that it's the Northeast?

New York and Boston are so Democratic that even if their sports teams have substantially more Republican fan bases, it's still unlikely to make them Republican overall.