Do you have any respect for anyone involved in the Confederacy?

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

Mister BRTD,

Do you have any respect for German soldiers (I've written "soldiers", not anything else) during WW2 ?
For at least one of them ?

Well von Stauffenberg and his conspirators would certainly apply, so yes.

And so, absolutely no Confederate would apply ??

Do you have any respect for a man who became a forced soldier and was obliged to fight against Russians harshly ?
He's also a human being, he's not a Nazi.

So, do you think there was absolutely no human being, deserving some respect, among Confederates ??

As we say in French, this topic's question is "d'une insondable connerie", that's what I wanted to say.

Find me some Confederate soldiers who tried to assassinate Robert E. Lee and then I might change my answer.

[big bad fab]

Mister BRTD,

Do you have any respect for German soldiers (I've written "soldiers", not anything else) during WW2 ?
For at least one of them ?

Well von Stauffenberg and his conspirators would certainly apply, so yes.

And so, absolutely no Confederate would apply ??

Do you have any respect for a man who became a forced soldier and was obliged to fight against Russians harshly ?
He's also a human being, he's not a Nazi.

So, do you think there was absolutely no human being, deserving some respect, among Confederates ??

As we say in French, this topic's question is "d'une insondable connerie", that's what I wanted to say.

Find me some Confederate soldiers who tried to assassinate Robert E. Lee and then I might change my answer.

Lee isn't exactly a Hitler, but that's not the point.

I'm just writing about young men that were forced to fight inside Reb troops. Do you think they all deserve despise and hate ?
Are they all responsible for decisions of great owners, officers, generals, politicians to secede and fight a war ?
Are you sure there isn't at least one who was a normal human being that you can respect, from your throne of present time ?

[minionofmidas]

Mister BRTD,

Do you have any respect for German soldiers (I've written "soldiers", not anything else) during WW2 ?
For at least one of them ?

Well von Stauffenberg and his conspirators would certainly apply, so yes.

And so, absolutely no Confederate would apply ??

Do you have any respect for a man who became a forced soldier and was obliged to fight against Russians harshly ?
He's also a human being, he's not a Nazi.

So, do you think there was absolutely no human being, deserving some respect, among Confederates ??

As we say in French, this topic's question is "d'une insondable connerie", that's what I wanted to say.

Find me some Confederate soldiers who tried to assassinate Robert E. Lee and then I might change my answer.

Would a Confederate soldier who was a Radical Republican in postwar Texas and later a libertarian socialist and one of the Haymarket Eight be good enough for you?

Albert Parsons (boy does that article require cleanup).

[J. J.]

Hell no. Show me a graveyard for Confederate veterarns and I'll show you where I'm taking a piss.

Fuck the Confederacy and everyone single person involved. It was nothing but evil.

I had no idea you supported slavery based on race.

[Psychic Octopus]

I hate the confederacy, would like to see their flag made illegal, and what not. But I hold respect for Robert E. Lee, Stonewall Jackson and the confederate soldiers.

[k-onmmunist]

Yes, Robert E Lee.

As for the original post, that was just dumbass.

[MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!]

The slaves on the plantations?

Agree

[Sewer]

Hell no. Show me a graveyard for Confederate veterarns and I'll show you where I'm taking a piss.

Fuck the Confederacy and everyone single person involved. It was nothing but evil.

I had no idea you supported slavery based on race.

lol wut?

[Mechaman]

I hate the confederacy, would like to see their flag made illegal, and what not. But I hold respect for Robert E. Lee, Stonewall Jackson and the confederate soldiers.

So much for freedom of speech.

In my mind as long as it's legal for people to have flags of Soviet Russia, People's Republic of China, and Nazi Germany, nations that made the word "genocide" popular, people should have the right to wave the Confederate or any damn flag they want too!

[Psychic Octopus]

I hate the confederacy, would like to see their flag made illegal, and what not. But I hold respect for Robert E. Lee, Stonewall Jackson and the confederate soldiers.

So much for freedom of speech.

In my mind as long as it's legal for people to have flags of Soviet Russia, People's Republic of China, and Nazi Germany, nations that made the word "genocide" popular, people should have the right to wave the Confederate or any damn flag they want too!

It's a symbol of evil. This overrides free speech concerns. The flag promotes racist violence and sepretatism. it shouldn't be treated any differently then Nazi Germany. It also promotes hateful views of the American south.

[Хahar 🤔]

The Nazi German flag isn't banned.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

No but it's not exactly "socially acceptable" to publicly fly. The Confederate flag should be treated the same way.

[Mechaman]

No but it's not exactly "socially acceptable" to publicly fly. The Confederate flag should be treated the same way.

I'm all for society looking down on people who fly these flags as retards and what not. Laws that ban such flags though suck.

[??????????]

I hate the confederacy, would like to see their flag made illegal, and what not. But I hold respect for Robert E. Lee, Stonewall Jackson and the confederate soldiers.

So much for freedom of speech.

In my mind as long as it's legal for people to have flags of Soviet Russia, People's Republic of China, and Nazi Germany, nations that made the word "genocide" popular, people should have the right to wave the Confederate or any damn flag they want too!

It's a symbol of evil. This overrides free speech concerns. The flag promotes racist violence and sepretatism. it shouldn't be treated any differently then Nazi Germany. It also promotes hateful views of the American south.

[SPC]

Given that slavery existed for 89 years in the United States, and that the USA has a history of racism towards blacks, Japanese, Chinese, Native Americans, among other ethnic groups, should it be morally unacceptable to fly the American flag in public?

[JSojourner]

The Nazi German flag isn't banned.

And that is precisely my point about the Stars and Bars.  The flag of any "nation" or power that was a military foe of the US should never be displayed on state flags, state property or federal property.  (With the exception of battlefields, museums and cemetaries where Confederate dead are buried.)

I do not believe the Confederate flag's association with slavery warrants its ban. Not because slavery is good.  But because the Stars and Stripes presided over a slave nation for a good 75 years before the Confederacy.  Must we also ban the US flag?  The KKK makes at least as much use of our American flag as it does of the Rebel flag.

Oh -- and as to military foes, I also think Hawaii should remove the Union Jack from her state flag.  I am quite the Anglophile and I recoginize that any military enmity with Britain has long been eclipsed by a warm friendship and staunch alliance.  Still, two war -- no thanks.  Find a different flag.

Just my two cents.

[Mechaman]

Given that slavery existed for 89 years in the United States, and that the USA has a history of racism towards blacks, Japanese, Chinese, Native Americans, among other ethnic groups, should it be morally unacceptable to fly the American flag in public?

The flag ban brigade just got owned!

[minionofmidas]

Given that slavery existed for 89 years in the United States, and that the USA has a history of racism towards blacks, Japanese, Chinese, Native Americans, among other ethnic groups, should it be morally unacceptable to fly the American flag in public?

The flag ban brigade just got owned!

I think the flag waving "patriotic" brigade just got owned worse.

[DownWithTheLeft]

The Confederacy was certainly more moral and noble than the Union as a whole

[Sewer]

The Confederacy was certainly more moral and noble than the Union as a whole

Slavery is moral?

[Хahar 🤔]

The Confederacy was certainly more moral and noble than the Union as a whole

Slavery is moral?

In libertarian-land, it is.

[Mechaman]

The Confederacy was certainly more moral and noble than the Union as a whole

Slavery is moral?

In libertarian-land, it is.

Wow, your anti-libertarian hackery is outrageous.
Just because libertarians liked Jefferson and just because he owned slaves doesn't mean we like slavery. BTW, who the hell are you to say what libertarians approve of? Let us, the libertarians, tell you about the libertarian view of slavery.

From a libertarian view (ie not the misrepresented view of libertarianism that Xahar always bashes), slavery is unethical and immoral because the institution of slavery requires that one individual have authority and ownership of the rights of another human being. That is unlibertarian. How the hell you equate libertarianism with slavery is beyond me.

BTW, I don't agree with the Confederacy, way to attach a broad closedminded label on a bunch of people.

[Mechaman]

Given that slavery existed for 89 years in the United States, and that the USA has a history of racism towards blacks, Japanese, Chinese, Native Americans, among other ethnic groups, should it be morally unacceptable to fly the American flag in public?

The flag ban brigade just got owned!

I think the flag waving "patriotic" brigade just got owned worse.

That too my friend. Muricah: the land of the free and the Nativist.

[SPC]

The Confederacy was certainly more moral and noble than the Union as a whole

Slavery is moral?

In libertarian-land, it is.

No libertarian thinks slavery is moral. For that matter, the Union maintained slavery for 18 times longer than the Confederacy did.

[Alexander Hamilton]

The Confederacy was certainly more moral and noble than the Union as a whole

Slavery is moral?

In libertarian-land, it is.

No libertarian thinks slavery is moral. For that matter, the Union maintained slavery for 18 times longer than the Confederacy did.

And many Unionists were willing to support slavery, whereas many Confederates were opposed to it.