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« Reply #425 on: August 24, 2009, 08:08:13 AM »

Despite the fact that this obviously could have gone better, a solid showing (someone has to lose) we'll just get more members active for next time.  Still the RPP holds the most seats

Our greatest chances to change that will be the next regional Senate elections, when we could manage to oust one of your three senators.

One of us could be removed, but it won't be by a JCP member thank God. Smiley

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« Reply #426 on: August 24, 2009, 08:10:35 AM »

Despite the fact that this obviously could have gone better, a solid showing (someone has to lose) we'll just get more members active for next time.  Still the RPP holds the most seats

Our greatest chances to change that will be the next regional Senate elections, when we could manage to oust one of your three senators.

One of us could be removed, but it won't be by a JCP member thank God. Smiley

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Well I doubt they'll elect SewerSocialist against me and everyone else is either LNF or RPP and Fritz is in office. And are there even JCP members in the Mideast?
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« Reply #427 on: August 24, 2009, 08:19:01 AM »

Despite the fact that this obviously could have gone better, a solid showing (someone has to lose) we'll just get more members active for next time.  Still the RPP holds the most seats

Our greatest chances to change that will be the next regional Senate elections, when we could manage to oust one of your three senators.

One of us could be removed, but it won't be by a JCP member thank God. Smiley

We'll see.. Tongue

Well I doubt they'll elect SewerSocialist against me and everyone else is either LNF or RPP and Fritz is in office. And are there even JCP members in the Mideast?

opebo? Lol and KyleGordon and badger.
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« Reply #428 on: August 24, 2009, 09:02:52 AM »

Despite the fact that this obviously could have gone better, a solid showing (someone has to lose) we'll just get more members active for next time.  Still the RPP holds the most seats

Our greatest chances to change that will be the next regional Senate elections, when we could manage to oust one of your three senators.

One of us could be removed, but it won't be by a JCP member thank God. Smiley

We'll see.. Tongue

Well I doubt they'll elect SewerSocialist against me and everyone else is either LNF or RPP and Fritz is in office. And are there even JCP members in the Mideast?

opebo? Lol and KyleGordon and badger.

Badger could probably beat Tmth. The Mideast will likely be the most vulnerable seat in October.
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« Reply #429 on: August 24, 2009, 09:22:15 AM »

We'll probably lose a regional seat, but if Smid runs our chances are great in the Northeast.  A few more recruits in the Pacific and we have a chance there too
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« Reply #430 on: August 24, 2009, 09:23:41 AM »

We'll probably lose a regional seat, but if Smid runs our chances are great in the Northeast.  A few more recruits in the Pacific and we have a chance there too

Uhhhh how?  Hashemite has been a strong Senator and it isn't like the RPP is superpowerful in the region.  They have no reason to throw him out.
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« Reply #431 on: August 24, 2009, 10:27:10 AM »

We'll probably lose a regional seat, but if Smid runs our chances are great in the Northeast.  A few more recruits in the Pacific and we have a chance there too

Uhhhh how?  Hashemite has been a strong Senator and it isn't like the RPP is superpowerful in the region.  They have no reason to throw him out.

Not to mention, you would need more than a "few" recruits to make any substantive gains in the Pacific. Does this mean more inactive nobodies for the Pacific? What joy!
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« Reply #432 on: August 24, 2009, 10:43:49 AM »

We'll probably lose a regional seat, but if Smid runs our chances are great in the Northeast.  A few more recruits in the Pacific and we have a chance there too

Uhhhh how?  Hashemite has been a strong Senator and it isn't like the RPP is superpowerful in the region.  They have no reason to throw him out.
Smid was the regional senator and is incredibly popular.  It would be moronic for the RPP to throw away what is a great oppurtunity.  We have nothing to lose by challenging Hashemite in the Northeast with Smid, we have to off-set a possible DA gain in the Mideast.
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« Reply #433 on: August 24, 2009, 11:11:27 AM »

We'll probably lose a regional seat, but if Smid runs our chances are great in the Northeast.  A few more recruits in the Pacific and we have a chance there too

Uhhhh how?  Hashemite has been a strong Senator and it isn't like the RPP is superpowerful in the region.  They have no reason to throw him out.

Not to mention, you would need more than a "few" recruits to make any substantive gains in the Pacific. Does this mean more inactive nobodies for the Pacific? What joy!

Like Rosetta Stoned and phknrocket1k?
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« Reply #434 on: August 24, 2009, 11:20:11 AM »

We'll probably lose a regional seat, but if Smid runs our chances are great in the Northeast.  A few more recruits in the Pacific and we have a chance there too

Uhhhh how?  Hashemite has been a strong Senator and it isn't like the RPP is superpowerful in the region.  They have no reason to throw him out.

Not to mention, you would need more than a "few" recruits to make any substantive gains in the Pacific. Does this mean more inactive nobodies for the Pacific? What joy!

Like Rosetta Stoned and phknrocket1k?

Is this the phknrocket1k than contributes or the one that goes crazy and trolls? As long as you recruit active members that contribute (as opposed to one- or two-time voters just to bolster your numbers) I am fine with it.

Also, bear in mind that most of the JCP zombies, will no longer active in Atlasia, used to be a big part in this game. Zombies that once were active and contributing are far better than random recruits like azmajic, ajc, FallenMorgan, etc. that have never been a part of the game and never plan to be.
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« Reply #435 on: August 24, 2009, 11:28:32 AM »

A few more recruits in the Pacific and we have a chance there too

Is this an admission of guilt? Smiley
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« Reply #436 on: August 24, 2009, 11:30:09 AM »

That is your opinion, Purple State, and I must say I disagree. Just because someone used to be active here doesn't make them any better than someone who rarely posts here, if those former members don't ever post here except to vote.
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« Reply #437 on: August 24, 2009, 11:46:32 AM »

That is your opinion, Purple State, and I must say I disagree. Just because someone used to be active here doesn't make them any better than someone who rarely posts here, if those former members don't ever post here except to vote.

I can't imagine you disagree that there is something...unsavory...about recruiting random people to spam the forum to reach the required post count, register, vote and disappear. While having an army of older members ready at one's disposal is not a good thing, it does not involve getting people to join the forum for the sole purpose of voting for you.

To give an analogy, there is a big difference between driving apathetic citizens to the polling site to vote and trucking in people from outside to vote for you and then go back home.
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« Reply #438 on: August 24, 2009, 11:49:42 AM »

That is your opinion, Purple State, and I must say I disagree. Just because someone used to be active here doesn't make them any better than someone who rarely posts here, if those former members don't ever post here except to vote.

I can't imagine you disagree that there is something...unsavory...about recruiting random people to spam the forum to reach the required post count, register, vote and disappear. While having an army of older members ready at one's disposal is not a good thing, it does not involve getting people to join the forum for the sole purpose of voting for you.

To give an analogy, there is a big difference between driving apathetic citizens to the polling site to vote and trucking in people from outside to vote for you and then go back home.

Unless there is some kind of conspiracy going on that I don't know about, no one is bringing people in from other sites. And all of our new members have been active in other parts of the forum, as well as making a few posts in Atlasia. I don't see how anyone could honestly think that having an army of people that know absolutely nothing about Atlasia is preferable to new people who show interest, unless it's blatant partisanship. I honestly believe it is pure envy. The same things were said when I came, and when people before me came, and really it's just stupid.
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« Reply #439 on: August 24, 2009, 11:52:07 AM »

A few more recruits in the Pacific and we have a chance there too

Is this an admission of guilt? Smiley
I have nothing to do with it still, I mean I'm starting to condone it more but I still don't recruit.  The only thing I did this whole cycle was spew hatred, promote my candidates, and PM a few people at the last minute
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« Reply #440 on: August 24, 2009, 11:59:41 AM »

That is your opinion, Purple State, and I must say I disagree. Just because someone used to be active here doesn't make them any better than someone who rarely posts here, if those former members don't ever post here except to vote.

I can't imagine you disagree that there is something...unsavory...about recruiting random people to spam the forum to reach the required post count, register, vote and disappear. While having an army of older members ready at one's disposal is not a good thing, it does not involve getting people to join the forum for the sole purpose of voting for you.

To give an analogy, there is a big difference between driving apathetic citizens to the polling site to vote and trucking in people from outside to vote for you and then go back home.

Unless there is some kind of conspiracy going on that I don't know about, no one is bringing people in from other sites. And all of our new members have been active in other parts of the forum, as well as making a few posts in Atlasia. I don't see how anyone could honestly think that having an army of people that know absolutely nothing about Atlasia is preferable to new people who show interest, unless it's blatant partisanship. I honestly believe it is pure envy. The same things were said when I came, and when people before me came, and really it's just stupid.

Yes, and sometimes people stay and remain active, such as yourself, Vepres, big bad fab, Swedish Cheese, badger, Barnes, etc.

However, most active members are not recruited simply to win an election. Most times, what brings in true and committed members just takes them wandering into the boards. So far the purpose of these recruits seems pretty clear. You aren't looking for active new citizens; you are looking for a quick way to win in a regional election.

I've yet to figure out if you are simply being lied to, but we will see who is vindicated at the end of this. Like my 7 vote prediction, I am skeptical (yet, hopeful) that I will be proven wrong and that the RPP really is looking to keep these new recruits excited, interested and active in the game.
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« Reply #441 on: August 24, 2009, 12:00:50 PM »

That is your opinion, Purple State, and I must say I disagree. Just because someone used to be active here doesn't make them any better than someone who rarely posts here, if those former members don't ever post here except to vote.

I can't imagine you disagree that there is something...unsavory...about recruiting random people to spam the forum to reach the required post count, register, vote and disappear. While having an army of older members ready at one's disposal is not a good thing, it does not involve getting people to join the forum for the sole purpose of voting for you.

To give an analogy, there is a big difference between driving apathetic citizens to the polling site to vote and trucking in people from outside to vote for you and then go back home.

Unless there is some kind of conspiracy going on that I don't know about, no one is bringing people in from other sites. And all of our new members have been active in other parts of the forum, as well as making a few posts in Atlasia. I don't see how anyone could honestly think that having an army of people that know absolutely nothing about Atlasia is preferable to new people who show interest, unless it's blatant partisanship. I honestly believe it is pure envy. The same things were said when I came, and when people before me came, and really it's just stupid.


However, most active members are not recruited simply to win an election. Most times, what brings in true and committed members just takes them wandering into the boards.

What makes you think that?
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« Reply #442 on: August 24, 2009, 12:01:42 PM »

That is your opinion, Purple State, and I must say I disagree. Just because someone used to be active here doesn't make them any better than someone who rarely posts here, if those former members don't ever post here except to vote.

I can't imagine you disagree that there is something...unsavory...about recruiting random people to spam the forum to reach the required post count, register, vote and disappear. While having an army of older members ready at one's disposal is not a good thing, it does not involve getting people to join the forum for the sole purpose of voting for you.

To give an analogy, there is a big difference between driving apathetic citizens to the polling site to vote and trucking in people from outside to vote for you and then go back home.

Unless there is some kind of conspiracy going on that I don't know about, no one is bringing people in from other sites. And all of our new members have been active in other parts of the forum, as well as making a few posts in Atlasia. I don't see how anyone could honestly think that having an army of people that know absolutely nothing about Atlasia is preferable to new people who show interest, unless it's blatant partisanship. I honestly believe it is pure envy. The same things were said when I came, and when people before me came, and really it's just stupid.


However, most active members are not recruited simply to win an election. Most times, what brings in true and committed members just takes them wandering into the boards.

What makes you think that?


My time here and my experiences thus far.
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« Reply #443 on: August 24, 2009, 12:02:32 PM »

That is your opinion, Purple State, and I must say I disagree. Just because someone used to be active here doesn't make them any better than someone who rarely posts here, if those former members don't ever post here except to vote.

I can't imagine you disagree that there is something...unsavory...about recruiting random people to spam the forum to reach the required post count, register, vote and disappear. While having an army of older members ready at one's disposal is not a good thing, it does not involve getting people to join the forum for the sole purpose of voting for you.

To give an analogy, there is a big difference between driving apathetic citizens to the polling site to vote and trucking in people from outside to vote for you and then go back home.

Unless there is some kind of conspiracy going on that I don't know about, no one is bringing people in from other sites. And all of our new members have been active in other parts of the forum, as well as making a few posts in Atlasia. I don't see how anyone could honestly think that having an army of people that know absolutely nothing about Atlasia is preferable to new people who show interest, unless it's blatant partisanship. I honestly believe it is pure envy. The same things were said when I came, and when people before me came, and really it's just stupid.


However, most active members are not recruited simply to win an election. Most times, what brings in true and committed members just takes them wandering into the boards.

What makes you think that?


My time here and my experiences thus far.

I can only speak for myself, but I would have never just wandered in to this board.
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« Reply #444 on: August 24, 2009, 12:06:06 PM »

That is your opinion, Purple State, and I must say I disagree. Just because someone used to be active here doesn't make them any better than someone who rarely posts here, if those former members don't ever post here except to vote.

I can't imagine you disagree that there is something...unsavory...about recruiting random people to spam the forum to reach the required post count, register, vote and disappear. While having an army of older members ready at one's disposal is not a good thing, it does not involve getting people to join the forum for the sole purpose of voting for you.

To give an analogy, there is a big difference between driving apathetic citizens to the polling site to vote and trucking in people from outside to vote for you and then go back home.

Unless there is some kind of conspiracy going on that I don't know about, no one is bringing people in from other sites. And all of our new members have been active in other parts of the forum, as well as making a few posts in Atlasia. I don't see how anyone could honestly think that having an army of people that know absolutely nothing about Atlasia is preferable to new people who show interest, unless it's blatant partisanship. I honestly believe it is pure envy. The same things were said when I came, and when people before me came, and really it's just stupid.


However, most active members are not recruited simply to win an election. Most times, what brings in true and committed members just takes them wandering into the boards.

What makes you think that?


My time here and my experiences thus far.

I can only speak for myself, but I would have never just wandered in to this board.


I did after months of wondering what it was. And was it not you who said you had been following the board for weeks and just decided to register after following it for some time?

The people that stay are the ones that don't believe their sole purpose is as a simple vote in a machine. It is the people like Vepres and Barnes, that want to do more than just serve as partisan hacks, that keep the game going.
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« Reply #445 on: August 24, 2009, 12:08:40 PM »

That is your opinion, Purple State, and I must say I disagree. Just because someone used to be active here doesn't make them any better than someone who rarely posts here, if those former members don't ever post here except to vote.

I can't imagine you disagree that there is something...unsavory...about recruiting random people to spam the forum to reach the required post count, register, vote and disappear. While having an army of older members ready at one's disposal is not a good thing, it does not involve getting people to join the forum for the sole purpose of voting for you.

To give an analogy, there is a big difference between driving apathetic citizens to the polling site to vote and trucking in people from outside to vote for you and then go back home.

Unless there is some kind of conspiracy going on that I don't know about, no one is bringing people in from other sites. And all of our new members have been active in other parts of the forum, as well as making a few posts in Atlasia. I don't see how anyone could honestly think that having an army of people that know absolutely nothing about Atlasia is preferable to new people who show interest, unless it's blatant partisanship. I honestly believe it is pure envy. The same things were said when I came, and when people before me came, and really it's just stupid.


However, most active members are not recruited simply to win an election. Most times, what brings in true and committed members just takes them wandering into the boards.

What makes you think that?


My time here and my experiences thus far.

I can only speak for myself, but I would have never just wandered in to this board.


I did after months of wondering what it was. And was it not you who said you had been following the board for weeks and just decided to register after following it for some time?

The people that stay are the ones that don't believe their sole purpose is as a simple vote in a machine. It is the people like Vepres and Barnes, that want to do more than just serve as partisan hacks, that keep the game going.

Well I don't think the JCPers are "people that stay", at least with newbies they may decide to get interested. And I signed up for the forum in April after following for months and only made like 12 posts until July. Once I got started here I got more active. I think that model can and will be replicated. New RPPers are certainly active across the forum regardless, so I think if you do want to attack them, you must be fair and attack the JCP voters that don't come to this board.
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« Reply #446 on: August 24, 2009, 12:13:01 PM »

Well I don't think the JCPers are "people that stay", at least with newbies they may decide to get interested. And I signed up for the forum in April after following for months and only made like 12 posts until July. Once I got started here I got more active. I think that model can and will be replicated. New RPPers are certainly active across the forum regardless, so I think if you do want to attack them, you must be fair and attack the JCP voters that don't come to this board.

I'm not attacking the new members you bring in. I'm attacking the tactics you use, tactics that the JCP does not use. The JCP doesn't bring in newbies and instruct them to vote how they want.

You prove my point. You came and stayed because you were actively interested, not because you were asked to come and vote a certain way.
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« Reply #447 on: August 24, 2009, 12:15:29 PM »

Well I don't think the JCPers are "people that stay", at least with newbies they may decide to get interested. And I signed up for the forum in April after following for months and only made like 12 posts until July. Once I got started here I got more active. I think that model can and will be replicated. New RPPers are certainly active across the forum regardless, so I think if you do want to attack them, you must be fair and attack the JCP voters that don't come to this board.

I'm not attacking the new members you bring in. I'm attacking the tactics you use, tactics that the JCP does not use. The JCP doesn't bring in newbies and instruct them to vote how they want.

You prove my point. You came and stayed because you were actively interested, not because you were asked to come and vote a certain way.

I don't bring anything in, except my friend NiK and FallenMorgan, note that a couple newbies posted here before they registered asking what it's about and how to get involved.
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« Reply #448 on: August 24, 2009, 12:19:23 PM »

We'll probably lose a regional seat, but if Smid runs our chances are great in the Northeast.  A few more recruits in the Pacific and we have a chance there too

Hashemite is unbeatable.
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« Reply #449 on: August 24, 2009, 12:20:11 PM »

We'll probably lose a regional seat, but if Smid runs our chances are great in the Northeast.  A few more recruits in the Pacific and we have a chance there too

Hashemite is unbeatable.

No one is unbeatable. Wink
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