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Antonio the Sixth
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« Reply #400 on: August 23, 2009, 09:12:14 AM »

Well, it looks that we will save ouselves from the debacle. The DA will probably be the most hurt by these results.
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« Reply #401 on: August 23, 2009, 09:16:19 AM »

Well, it looks that we will save ouselves from the debacle. The DA will probably be the most hurt by these results.

Yeah, we don't have enough zombies.
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Antonio the Sixth
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« Reply #402 on: August 23, 2009, 09:19:28 AM »

Well, it looks that we will save ouselves from the debacle. The DA will probably be the most hurt by these results.

Yeah, we don't have enough zombies.

Also, according to Fritz's tracker, it seems that Rowanbrandon will be the only RPPer elected, so that DA could keep its two seats. Therefore, the change is not as dramatic as expected.
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« Reply #403 on: August 23, 2009, 09:24:57 AM »

Well, it looks that we will save ouselves from the debacle. The DA will probably be the most hurt by these results.

Yeah, we don't have enough zombies.

Also, according to Fritz's tracker, it seems that Rowanbrandon will be the only RPPer elected, so that DA could keep its two seats. Therefore, the change is not as dramatic as expected.

There is a long way to go. As of last count that is true, but afleitch received a bunch of votes last night and I believe the quota has also increased, meaning all the current counts are incorrect. There is also the questions of the LNF votes.

This will likely come down to Earl's totals, as there is also confusion on exactly how to divide the votes.
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« Reply #404 on: August 23, 2009, 12:21:42 PM »

Well, it looks that we will save ouselves from the debacle. The DA will probably be the most hurt by these results.

Yeah, we don't have enough zombies.

Also, according to Fritz's tracker, it seems that Rowanbrandon will be the only RPPer elected, so that DA could keep its two seats. Therefore, the change is not as dramatic as expected.

There is a long way to go. As of last count that is true, but afleitch received a bunch of votes last night and I believe the quota has also increased, meaning all the current counts are incorrect. There is also the questions of the LNF votes.

This will likely come down to Earl's totals, as there is also confusion on exactly how to divide the votes.

There will be a half dozen or so RPP voters today (IIRC), so SPC or Duke could get in.
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« Reply #405 on: August 23, 2009, 12:30:42 PM »

There are quite a few liberal/left friendly voters still out there, so I think that it could get very close.
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« Reply #406 on: August 23, 2009, 12:34:22 PM »

*I should've said this earlier, but these are based on Fritz's/Peter's count, and thus there may be errors if Earl's count is different.

We can now project that Marokai will win another term.

That makes this the current makeup of the Senate:


Yellow - RPP
Light Blue - DA
Green - JCP
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« Reply #407 on: August 23, 2009, 12:46:37 PM »

The possibility of a Franzl election is now more likely than a Fritz election in my opinion.
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« Reply #408 on: August 23, 2009, 12:48:07 PM »

So what are saying likelihood is now?

RowanBrandon
Marokai
SPC
Afleitch
Franzl
Fritz
Duke

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« Reply #409 on: August 23, 2009, 12:49:20 PM »

Rowan
Marokai
Fritz
Franzl
SPC
afleitch
Duke
Jas

Franzl, afleitch, and SPC have essentially the same odds in my opinion.
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« Reply #410 on: August 23, 2009, 01:32:14 PM »

Best guess:

Rowan
Marokai
Franzl
Fritz
Afleitch
SPC
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Antonio the Sixth
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« Reply #411 on: August 23, 2009, 03:50:33 PM »

Ok, I asked a question in another topic, but I didn't get any answer. So, I try to see if I'll have more success here :

I'd like to ask a question. This is probably not the right topic for it, but since we don't really have a place for this sort of question I'll still try here.

Well, I'm certainly not an expert in voting systems, but this has always interested me, so that I tried to research about that and now I know the basics. But there is something I don't understand about the voting system used for this election.
The Single Transferable Vote is suppposed to be a proportionnal system, selecting the 5 people that represent better the electors. In this case, why the quota fixed to be elected is 1/6 of the total votes insteasd of 1/5 ? If you fix it at 1/6 where there are only 5 senators elected, the representativity of the elected will be just slowly higher to 5/6, whereas we could have a 100% one with an 1/5 of the votes. This clearly hurts proportionnality of the system and can be dangerous.
If there is a reason why things are so, I hope someone could explain it to me, because this issue worries me since sometimes now. I admit that I can be wrong and will accept any sort of explanation. Thanks a lot. Smiley
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« Reply #412 on: August 23, 2009, 08:15:41 PM »

We can project that afleitch will win reelection.

This is the current Senate:


Yellow - RPP
Light Blue - DA
Green - JCP
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« Reply #413 on: August 23, 2009, 10:59:32 PM »

We can now project that Franzl will win reelection.

This is the makeup of the next Senate (unless Earl has a different count):


Yellow - RPP
Light Blue - DA
Green - JCP
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« Reply #414 on: August 23, 2009, 11:17:31 PM »

What? For real? How did this happen? I'm away for a few hours and Franzl and afleitch both get re-elected? I hope you're not screwing with me Vepres.
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« Reply #415 on: August 23, 2009, 11:18:29 PM »

What? For real? How did this happen? I'm away for a few hours and Franzl and afleitch both get re-elected? I hope you're not screwing with me Vepres.

We tried very hard to help make it happen, the RPP alternatives were deplorable. Tongue
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« Reply #416 on: August 23, 2009, 11:19:28 PM »

What? For real? How did this happen? I'm away for a few hours and Franzl and afleitch both get re-elected? I hope you're not screwing with me Vepres.

We tried very hard to help make it happen, the RPP alternatives were deplorable. Tongue

I think Duke is more in line with JCP views than either Franzl or afleitch.
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« Reply #417 on: August 23, 2009, 11:22:46 PM »

I'll take the re-election of the four Senators who voted in favor of the two pieces of my legislative agenda I championed in the last session as a vote of confidence. Tongue

Congratulations to all four of you, and congratulations to Senator-elect RowanBrandon as well.
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« Reply #418 on: August 23, 2009, 11:25:35 PM »

Despite the fact that this obviously could have gone better, a solid showing (someone has to lose) we'll just get more members active for next time.  Still the RPP holds the most seats
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« Reply #419 on: August 23, 2009, 11:28:08 PM »

What? For real? How did this happen? I'm away for a few hours and Franzl and afleitch both get re-elected? I hope you're not screwing with me Vepres.

We tried very hard to help make it happen, the RPP alternatives were deplorable. Tongue

I think Duke is more in line with JCP views than either Franzl or afleitch.

SPC was more the one we were hoping to keep out, considering that he's a few sandwiches short of a picnic if you catch my drift.
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« Reply #420 on: August 23, 2009, 11:29:50 PM »

Marokai, there is no need to hate on SPC because his family can afford to have a picnic
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« Reply #421 on: August 23, 2009, 11:39:04 PM »

Marokai, there is no need to hate on SPC because his family can afford to have a picnic

LOL You're terrible at dissing. Tongue
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« Reply #422 on: August 23, 2009, 11:52:29 PM »

I to write an analysis tomorrow.
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Antonio the Sixth
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« Reply #423 on: August 24, 2009, 08:04:49 AM »

Despite the fact that this obviously could have gone better, a solid showing (someone has to lose) we'll just get more members active for next time.  Still the RPP holds the most seats

Our greatest chances to change that will be the next regional Senate elections, when we could manage to oust one of your three senators.
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« Reply #424 on: August 24, 2009, 08:06:09 AM »

Despite the fact that this obviously could have gone better, a solid showing (someone has to lose) we'll just get more members active for next time.  Still the RPP holds the most seats

Our greatest chances to change that will be the next regional Senate elections, when we could manage to oust one of your three senators.

One of us could be removed, but it won't be by a JCP member thank God. Smiley
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