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« on: June 13, 2009, 07:37:33 PM »
« edited: June 18, 2009, 07:47:21 PM by Senator MasterJedi, PPT »

SOEA Role Codification Bill

1) Every 2 months a renewed foreign policy roll must be put out.
2) Communiques should be sent out whenever there is a foreign or diplomatic crisis in the world regarding official Atlasian policy.
3)The SOEA will give his opinion on all foreign policy related decisions to the President.
4) The SOEA will serve as Atlasia's foremost representative to other countries.
5) The SOEA will be second in command of the Atlasian armed forces only to the President.

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« Reply #1 on: June 13, 2009, 08:50:58 PM »

If anyone wants to make any changes I am very open to improvements.
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« Reply #2 on: June 13, 2009, 09:27:27 PM »

If anyone wants to make any changes I am very open to improvements.

Though I've talked to you about the bill in private, I like to give quick rationalizations for my bills. So could you explain why this bill is a good idea for the rest of us? Smiley
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« Reply #3 on: June 13, 2009, 10:23:15 PM »

If anyone wants to make any changes I am very open to improvements.

Though I've talked to you about the bill in private, I like to give quick rationalizations for my bills. So could you explain why this bill is a good idea for the rest of us? Smiley

Quite simply the SOEA's role is currently very loosely defined and frankly not very relevant.  This is simply a bill to correct those problems, or at least treat them
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« Reply #4 on: June 13, 2009, 10:35:01 PM »

     I proposed a bill like this a while ago that was defeated. However, this is much more coherent & it's a mostly new Senate, so I'd say it's a good season.
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« Reply #5 on: June 13, 2009, 11:13:33 PM »

What is a foreign policy roll exactly? Could we clarify that? And I would amend it to read "shall be presented to the Senate" rather than "put out."
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« Reply #6 on: June 13, 2009, 11:29:18 PM »

What is a foreign policy roll exactly? Could we clarify that? And I would amend it to read "shall be presented to the Senate" rather than "put out."

Essentially it is a clarification of Atlasia's diplomatic policies around the world on a nation by nation basis.  As a compromise how about what change it from put out to issue?  Also how would you like to clarify it in the bill?

To view a foreign policy roll look here:

https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=85560.msg1774733#msg1774733
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« Reply #7 on: June 13, 2009, 11:30:58 PM »

Thanks for the clarification.

And why not just have the SoEA present it to the Senate in the DoEA.
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« Reply #8 on: June 13, 2009, 11:32:33 PM »

Thanks for the clarification.

And why not just have the SoEA present it to the Senate in the DoEA.

I don't think the DOEA counts as a part of the Senate nor is it truly necessary to present to the Senate.
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« Reply #9 on: June 13, 2009, 11:36:36 PM »

Thanks for the clarification.

And why not just have the SoEA present it to the Senate in the DoEA.

I don't think the DOEA counts as a part of the Senate nor is it truly necessary to present to the Senate.

As a compromise, we can put it as "shall present a foreign policy roll in the DoEA."
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« Reply #10 on: June 13, 2009, 11:40:27 PM »

Thanks for the clarification.

And why not just have the SoEA present it to the Senate in the DoEA.

I don't think the DOEA counts as a part of the Senate nor is it truly necessary to present to the Senate.

As a compromise, we can put it as "shall present a foreign policy roll in the DoEA."

Works for me, I will accept as friendly if you're offering Wink
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« Reply #11 on: June 13, 2009, 11:58:41 PM »

Thanks for the clarification.

And why not just have the SoEA present it to the Senate in the DoEA.

I don't think the DOEA counts as a part of the Senate nor is it truly necessary to present to the Senate.

As a compromise, we can put it as "shall present a foreign policy roll in the DoEA."

Works for me, I will accept as friendly if you're offering Wink

So offered.
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« Reply #12 on: June 14, 2009, 06:52:30 AM »

Change it to review, not roll mar plij.
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« Reply #13 on: June 14, 2009, 07:46:38 AM »


Thanks Hashemite.

Mister PPT with these new revisions the bill should read:

1) Every 2 months a renewed foreign policy review must be presented within the Department of External Affairs Office.
2) Communiques should be sent out whenever there is a foreign or diplomatic crisis in the world regarding official Atlasian policy.
3)The SOEA will give his opinion on all foreign policy related decisions to the President.
4) The SOEA will serve as Atlasia's foremost representative to other countries.
5) The SOEA will be second in command of the Atlasian armed forces only to the President.
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« Reply #14 on: June 16, 2009, 06:10:08 PM »

I hereby open up a final vote on this bill. Please vote Aye, Nay or Abstain.

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« Reply #15 on: June 16, 2009, 06:13:35 PM »

     Aye
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« Reply #16 on: June 16, 2009, 07:09:12 PM »

Aye
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« Reply #17 on: June 16, 2009, 07:25:24 PM »

The SoEA has always seemed a bit too "under the radar" in terms of awareness or impact, so this looks great.

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« Reply #18 on: June 16, 2009, 09:40:34 PM »

AYE
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« Reply #19 on: June 17, 2009, 07:00:43 AM »

Aye
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« Reply #20 on: June 17, 2009, 07:10:21 AM »

This bill has enough votes to pass. Senators now have 24 hours to change their votes.
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« Reply #21 on: June 17, 2009, 11:41:43 AM »

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« Reply #22 on: June 17, 2009, 11:49:39 AM »

Aye.
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« Reply #23 on: June 17, 2009, 12:48:28 PM »

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« Reply #24 on: June 18, 2009, 07:34:09 AM »

With 9 Ayes, 0 Nays and 0 Abstentions this bill has passed. I hereby present it to the President for his signature.
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