Michigan 2008 Township & City Map

[ElectionAtlas]

Here is a preliminary version of the 2008 Michigan Township Map.

[ElectionAtlas]

Here is MI with WI and MN

[Landslide Lyndon]

Excellent job.

Congratulations Dave!

[RI]

Great maps!

Random questions: You have a town map for Kansas in 2000. Is there any chance of getting another one, or was that a one-time deal?

Nebraska, the Dakotas, and Indiana all have the same town system as Kansas and the Midwest states. Are any of those possible?

EDIT: Actually, while I'm at it, what is the status of Massachusetts? Are the maps that are on this forum for Pennsylvania and New Jersey going to be incorporated into the Atlas?

[minionofmidas]

I'd always wondered why rural Lake County is so dependably (not overwhelmingly) Democratic.

It's 10% Black though I haven't the slightest clue why... and now it turns out that the most Democratic bit of it is over 40% Black.

Anybody got more info on this place?

[Nym90]

I'd always wondered why rural Lake County is so dependably (not overwhelmingly) Democratic.

It's 10% Black though I haven't the slightest clue why... and now it turns out that the most Democratic bit of it is over 40% Black.

Anybody got more info on this place?

There's a large prison there that is the primary employer in the county; prison guards are unionized, and there probably is a higher-than-normal-for-a-rural-Midwest-county percentage of blacks employed there too.

[Sbane]

Why is there such a stark difference in voting patterns between eastern and western Wisconsin?

[Badger]

Why is there such a stark difference in voting patterns between eastern and western Wisconsin?

That dark blue splotch in the southeast is mostly the extended Milwaukee metro suburbs which, despite Dem gains in the suburbs nationally, remain rabidly GOP.

[minionofmidas]

I'd always wondered why rural Lake County is so dependably (not overwhelmingly) Democratic.

It's 10% Black though I haven't the slightest clue why... and now it turns out that the most Democratic bit of it is over 40% Black.

Anybody got more info on this place?

There's a large prison there that is the primary employer in the county; prison guards are unionized, and there probably is a higher-than-normal-for-a-rural-Midwest-county percentage of blacks employed there too.

Wikipedia has lists of Michigan State Prisons, and of federal prisons.

There are none of either in Lake. (Besides, it would certainly not be in Yates Township - look at the age breakdown on that wiki link.)

HOWEVER, searching a little deeper I seem to have found the real reason: Idle wild is in Yates.

[Nym90]

I'd always wondered why rural Lake County is so dependably (not overwhelmingly) Democratic.

It's 10% Black though I haven't the slightest clue why... and now it turns out that the most Democratic bit of it is over 40% Black.

Anybody got more info on this place?

There's a large prison there that is the primary employer in the county; prison guards are unionized, and there probably is a higher-than-normal-for-a-rural-Midwest-county percentage of blacks employed there too.

Wikipedia has lists of Michigan State Prisons, and of federal prisons.

There are none of either in Lake. (Besides, it would certainly not be in Yates Township - look at the age breakdown on that wiki link.)

HOWEVER, searching a little deeper I seem to have found the real reason: Idle wild is in Yates.

Actually, that's right. They closed that prison about 3-4 years ago. See what old age is doing to me?

[minionofmidas]

Actually, that's right. They closed that prison about 3-4 years ago. See what old age is doing to me?

It would still show up in Census 2000 figures.

(And the Wiki list of Michigan state prisons, though not the federal one, included recentish closures - sure you don't have the county wrong? There were two or three in that general area of the state.)

[Sbane]

Why is there such a stark difference in voting patterns between eastern and western Wisconsin?

That dark blue splotch in the southeast is mostly the extended Milwaukee metro suburbs which, despite Dem gains in the suburbs nationally, remain rabidly GOP.

But isn't there such a pattern in central and northern Wisconsin as well? IIRC Obama did extremely well in northeast Wisconsin and so the divergence doesn't look as impressive on this map.

[Badger]

Why is there such a stark difference in voting patterns between eastern and western Wisconsin?

That dark blue splotch in the southeast is mostly the extended Milwaukee metro suburbs which, despite Dem gains in the suburbs nationally, remain rabidly GOP.

But isn't there such a pattern in central and northern Wisconsin as well? IIRC Obama did extremely well in northeast Wisconsin and so the divergence doesn't look as impressive on this map.

I'm not sure I understand. If you're saying that Obama did well in the suburbs in NE Wis, I can only tell you that that may be true but the Milwaukee metro suburbs are still heavily GOP and the main source of Republican votes statewide (at least for McCain). Why that is will have to be answered by someone more knowledgeable about Wisconsin politics than I. Maybe because the rest of WI doesn't have large enough urban centers to produce the large population of relatively affluent white flight suburbs (which Milwaukee's certainly are).

[Nym90]

Actually, that's right. They closed that prison about 3-4 years ago. See what old age is doing to me?

It would still show up in Census 2000 figures.

(And the Wiki list of Michigan state prisons, though not the federal one, included recentish closures - sure you don't have the county wrong? There were two or three in that general area of the state.)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Michigan_state_prisons

Michigan Youth Correctional Facility in Baldwin.

[Linus Van Pelt]

Why is there such a stark difference in voting patterns between eastern and western Wisconsin?

That dark blue splotch in the southeast is mostly the extended Milwaukee metro suburbs which, despite Dem gains in the suburbs nationally, remain rabidly GOP.

But isn't there such a pattern in central and northern Wisconsin as well? IIRC Obama did extremely well in northeast Wisconsin and so the divergence doesn't look as impressive on this map.

Eastern Wisconsin is very German in ancestry, while the western part of the state is more Norwegian and WASP. I suspect that this means that the west is more liberal-Protestant. I also suspect that the political split has to do with this, though I don't have any direct evidence for this claim.

The effect certainly predates any modern civil rights/white flight issues in Milwaukee. From a thread (and I also presume map) made by bgwah one time, here's a GOP senate primary in 1946 with the progressive Robert Lafolette in green and the ultra-conservative Joe McCarthy in blue:



https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=76522.0

[Linus Van Pelt]

I'd always wondered why rural Lake County is so dependably (not overwhelmingly) Democratic.

It's 10% Black though I haven't the slightest clue why... and now it turns out that the most Democratic bit of it is over 40% Black.

Anybody got more info on this place?

I didn't, but I got curious and after a bit of googling it seems Baldwin, the main town of the county, was a major underground railroad town.

[minionofmidas]

Actually, that's right. They closed that prison about 3-4 years ago. See what old age is doing to me?

It would still show up in Census 2000 figures.

(And the Wiki list of Michigan state prisons, though not the federal one, included recentish closures - sure you don't have the county wrong? There were two or three in that general area of the state.)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Michigan_state_prisons

Michigan Youth Correctional Facility in Baldwin.

You're right, I seem to've overlooked that one.

[pogo stick]

These are awesome!!! Especially the MI One.

[Ronnie]

These are awesome!!! Especially the MI One.

Yay!  Another Jewish conservative on the forum!

Welcome.

[Nym90]

Has there been any update on the Michigan data? I see that the results by city/town is still not posted to the Atlas. Just curious what still needed to be done.

[ElectionAtlas]

Has there been any update on the Michigan data? I see that the results by city/town is still not posted to the Atlas. Just curious what still needed to be done.

Thanks Nym - The data I have is pretty good.  I have been hoping to obtain more write-in votes (only about 40% are in the database), but haven't been actively working on these data in a bit.  Any interest in helping to track down some more info?

Dave

[Nym90]

Has there been any update on the Michigan data? I see that the results by city/town is still not posted to the Atlas. Just curious what still needed to be done.

Thanks Nym - The data I have is pretty good.  I have been hoping to obtain more write-in votes (only about 40% are in the database), but haven't been actively working on these data in a bit.  Any interest in helping to track down some more info?

Dave

Sure, I'd be willing to do whatever I can. Where would be the best places to go to obtain the data? I'm unfortunately nowhere near Lansing, but I'd be happy to scour libraries/websites.