Cheney for President in 2012?

[Reaganfan]

http://www.theweek.com/article/index/96719/Dick_Cheney_2012

Despite Obama’s defeat of the “Clinton machine,” American political dynasties are still alive and well, said Reihan Salam in The Daily Beast, and that includes the “tarnished” Bush clan. Ex-Florida Gov. Jeb Bush is probably the GOP’s best hope for 2012, and Dick Cheney seems to be “gunning” to be at his side. Or at the head of the ticket. Cheney for president may seem a “surreal nightmare” to many Americans, but “stranger things have happened.”

Yes, Cheney’s “68, white, and bitter,” said Roger Simon in Politico. But that’s why he’s “the voice, the face, the spirit, and the guts of the Republican Party today.” And despite poor polling, he actually “has many pluses”—he’s “very, very good on TV,” he’s calm and articulate, and he’s tough. “The Republicans need a person who knows how to attack.”

Why would he run in 2012, when he’s already enjoying his “third term”? said Maureen Dowd in The New York Times. Cheney’s one of “the best infighters in Washington history,” and through his nonstop TV appearances and “Obama-bashing,” he seems to be getting the “Boy Wonder” president to follow his orders on the torture photos, state secrets, and other Bush-era national security policies.

[Lunar]

Ooh, an intensely unpopular 72 year old that has been having heart attacks since he was 37 years old?


Hell, there's a slightly higher chance that he'll be in jail by 2013 than in the Oval Office.

[Landslide Lyndon]

I bet he will raise a boatload of money if he decides to run for President.
And that will be just from the Democrats.

[MaxQue]

Yay, Democrats could run on Bush's record for another election!

[Nhoj]

isnt this like the third thread we have about this? in anycase cheney is never going to become president or run,

[Coburn In 2012]

He should have been President for the last 8 years.  I think the country would have gone a great leap ahead and avoided a lot of problems if he had complete free rein over the country.  I know he had more power than most veeps but I think Bush held him back.  don't get me wrong Bush was a great man.  But at times his spending got out of hand and he was a bit to much of a bleeding heart.  Cheney is TOUGH TOUGH TOUGH.  One thing this country does NOT need is a president who is a pussy.  Like Carter was and like Obama seems to be now.

Still, to be totally fair I can't see Cheney beating even a loser like Obama.  He will be so demonized and characatured by the liberal dominated press he would never get a fair shake. Better to start fresh

[You kip if you want to...]

He should have been President for the last 8 years.  I think the country would have gone a great leap ahead and avoided a lot of problems if he had complete free rein over the country.  I know he had more power than most veeps but I think Bush held him back.  don't get me wrong Bush was a great man.  But at times his spending got out of hand and he was a bit to much of a bleeding heart.  Cheney is TOUGH TOUGH TOUGH.  One thing this country does NOT need is a president who is a pussy.  Like Carter was and like Obama seems to be now.

Still, to be totally fair I can't see Cheney beating even a loser like Obama.  He will be so demonized and characatured by the liberal dominated press he would never get a fair shake. Better to start fresh

Wow. There must be about 1 million things wrong with that post.

In other news, CHENEY '12!!!!!!!!!!111111!

[GLPman]

He should have been President for the last 8 years.  I think the country would have gone a great leap ahead and avoided a lot of problems if he had complete free rein over the country.  I know he had more power than most veeps but I think Bush held him back.  don't get me wrong Bush was a great man.  But at times his spending got out of hand and he was a bit to much of a bleeding heart.  Cheney is TOUGH TOUGH TOUGH.  One thing this country does NOT need is a president who is a pussy.  Like Carter was and like Obama seems to be now.

Still, to be totally fair I can't see Cheney beating even a loser like Obama.  He will be so demonized and characatured by the liberal dominated press he would never get a fair shake. Better to start fresh

So, according to you, the past eight years would have been better if Cheney had been our president and had "complete free reign over the country." Do you ever wonder WHY Cheney wouldn't be able to beat a "pussy" like Obama or Carter nowadays? Cheney is everything that was wrong with the Bush Administration, and I'm not saying that Bush was a good or a bad president, but I blame the things that went wrong during his eight years completely on Cheney. Thank God Cheney will never see the Oval Office.

[pbrower2a]

He should have been President for the last 8 years.

He was never elected President. This fellow would have lost to Gore in 2000 and Kerry in 2004 -- and that's before I even discuss Clinton or Obama.

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Tell me how different his policies would have been from those of Dubya.

By the way -- what is the difference between a "great leap ahead" and a "Great Leap Forward" (the economic catastrophe that Mao Zedong inflicted upon China)?

"Complete free rein" entails a redundancy... and "free rein" in politics suggests dictatorship,  which our Constitution seems to preclude.

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To a lesser extent than any prior VP -- not that I dissent with the President allowing the VP to exercise the powers that the President can lawfully devolve to the VP so that the President need not get caught up in details.  Of course, Dubya wanted many questionable things done, so therein lies the rub.

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Yeah, sure, he will be remembered among Cyrus the Great, Pericles, Alexander, Caesar, Charlemagne, Saladin, Washington, Bolivar, Lincoln, Disraeli, Garibaldi, Juarez, Gandhi, Churchill, Adenauer, Sun Yat Sen, FDR, de Gaulle, Eisenhower, Mandela... (irony intended)

Dubya did far less good in his eight years as President than did his father in four. 

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I'll take Bill Clinton's surpluses over Dubya's wasteful spending and reckless commitments any day. 

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Whenever I see praise for toughness in dishing out hard measures I think of the words cruel or harsh. Repeated words in all-caps are bad form.

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Will we ever elect a cat as President of the United States? Any other meaning for that word is sexist if not pornographic.

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Do you see conical ears, retractible claws, and razor-sharp canine teeth on him?

Cats are brutal killers -- arguably the nastiest predators on Earth. Domestic cats are no less predatory than tigers -- and they seem to kill for the fun of it.  That is a very nasty thing to say about Jimmy Carter.

Oh -- unlike Dubya, Carter met his military obligation. Obama would have made a fine officer had he chosen a military career.

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What do you think of Ronald Reagan? Obama's political techniques are much the same, and I expect similar results if in the service of a different agenda.

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Obama won the 2008 election fair, square, and decisively, which contradicts your idea that he is a loser, and his approval ratings are very good without some event that has caused his popularity to balloon.

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The hunting accident would have been laughable except that someone got hurt. He used the F-bomb against Senator Pat Leahy.

Spelling error: it's caricature. I excuse typos on the web.

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He got a fair shake, and he mishandled it badly.

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Yes, the GOP needs a fresh start in which it rebuilds its credibility at the grass-roots level with people who have no connection to the Rove/Cheney/Dubya clique..

At least one correction per sentence -- that's one way to flunk Freshman Composition. Besides, you get reported to the PC committee specializing in male chauvinism. Penance begins tomorrow with learning ways to avoid sexism in speech and writing.

[CJK]

I think Cheney in 2012 would be great... if we knew that any other Republican would lose anyway. It at least would be highly entertaining and we'd have little to lose.

[pbrower2a]

I think Cheney in 2012 would be great... if we knew that any other Republican would lose anyway. It at least would be highly entertaining and we'd have little to lose.

45-47 state landslide.

[justfollowingtheelections]

Do people still take coburn seriously?  He's more of a troll than Sean Hannity and Glen Beck combined... Republicans are so out of touch with reality.

[RIP Robert H Bork]

LOL at Cheney running in 2012 (or any year for that matter).

[Progressive]

As a Democrat I would love (and fear) Cheney 2012. I think he would win Alabama, Wyoming, Idaho, Utah, Oklahoma, and like narrowly win Kansas, Nebraska. I really don't see him winning anything else.

[2952-0-0]

An old, grumpy white male of 72 years of age competing against a charismatic and reasonably-popular black community organizer?

What could possibly go wrong?

[pbrower2a]

An old, grumpy white male of 72 years of age competing against a charismatic and reasonably-popular black community organizer?

What could possibly go wrong?

Yet another example of racism from the party of tolerance and diversity.  And what the hell does community organizing have to do with anything?  Yeah, all that "community organizing" really came in handy for him last year!

What is so stereotypical about a 72-year-old grumpy white male? We have seen it before in a movie.

We know who Barack Obama is, and obviously his role as a community organizer  suggests a willingness to learn the realities of the electorate instead of get rich quick in corporate law.   

[pbrower2a]

The movie in question is the comedy http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0107050/ Grumpy Old Men (1993).

The least of Cheney's problems as a politician is that he is boring.

[Rob]

How about a more charismatic crowd-pleaser, like Fred Thompson?

[Nym90]

He'd do as well as Walter Mondale did in 1984. Pretty similar situation actually.

[Magic 8-Ball]

Cheney's already had his 8 years.  Against him, I would vote early and often.  Not that it matters here.

[Progressive]

He should have been President for the last 8 years.  I think the country would have gone a great leap ahead and avoided a lot of problems if he had complete free rein over the country.  I know he had more power than most veeps but I think Bush held him back.  don't get me wrong Bush was a great man.  But at times his spending got out of hand and he was a bit to much of a bleeding heart.  Cheney is TOUGH TOUGH TOUGH.  One thing this country does NOT need is a president who is a pussy.  Like Carter was and like Obama seems to be now.

Still, to be totally fair I can't see Cheney beating even a loser like Obama.  He will be so demonized and characatured by the liberal dominated press he would never get a fair shake. Better to start fresh

caricatured *

republican? figures..

[Coburn In 2012]

An old, grumpy white male of 72 years of age competing against a charismatic and reasonably-popular black community organizer?

What could possibly go wrong?

Yet another example of racism from the party of tolerance and diversity.  And what the hell does community organizing have to do with anything?  Yeah, all that "community organizing" really came in handy for him last year!

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[5280]

I don't think Cheney will run in 2012, but I love it when he debates with Obama and shows him his place!

[You kip if you want to...]

I don't think Cheney will run in 2012, but I love it when he debates with Obama and shows him his place!

While appearing as the angry man he is to do that? Winning yet more votes for President Obama.

[5280]

I doubt that.