Where in the western world do non-whites vote most to the right?
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rob in cal
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« on: May 14, 2009, 11:05:58 AM »

  It seems that in general non-white immigrants and their descendants are always voting for parties of the left, as a function of their lower-class status, and the lefts support for continued immigration.  I'm wondering if there is any country in the predominatly white world where this is not the case, or less the case than elsewhere? 
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« Reply #1 on: May 14, 2009, 11:26:09 AM »

Immigrants in Canada tend to be small-c conservative. This usually translates to votes for the Liberals, but in Alberta I believe many vote Conservative.  From the most recent BC election, it appears the Chinese community supports the conservative BC Liberal Party, while South Asians tend to support the left-of-centre NDP. This is not the case in Ontario however, where both groups vote Liberal. The NDP used to have roots in the immigrant community, but the Liberals took all our support. I think we only have one visible minority MP, Olivia Chow in all of Canada, despite affirmative action policies for candidacies. Most immigrants run in un-winnable districts.
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« Reply #2 on: May 14, 2009, 03:30:00 PM »

Monaco. There is no left-wing party. Or Liechtenstein. But you'd be hard pressed to find non-whites there Grin

Most immigrants run in un-winnable districts.

Indeed. The Conservatives nominated a random black dude to run here, a district which was last Conservative in the 1800s.

Same thing in France. Metropolitan French non-whites are strongly left-wing, though probably a lot of small-c conservatives. Non-white French in the DOM-TOMs are a whole different matter, in fact, a number vote for the right.
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« Reply #3 on: May 14, 2009, 08:31:08 PM »

In Canada I think the Liberals are becoming the immigrant party. The NDP seems remain a working class and leftist party, while the Conservatives are still seen as somewhat anti-immigrant. But look at Richmond. They voted Liberal for years, and now have a Conservative MP. I think the Chinese are wealthier than other minorities and have gone over the the Conservatives more easily, but the social conservative positions of most Indians will bring them over to the Conservatives eventually.
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« Reply #4 on: May 15, 2009, 05:27:23 PM »

The Chinese vote in Denmark (mostly Copenhagen) is fairly solid centre-right (Venstre). - But personnal and etnic (Pakistanis vote for the Pakistani, never mind party colour etc) factors are still quite important.
Currently there is 4 MP's originating from other countries. 2 from Socialist People's Party, one from Social Democrats and 1 from Conservative People's Party (elected as New Alliance)

And 2 MP's from Greenland, 1 socialist and 1 social democrat and 2 from Faroe Islands, 1 socialist and 1 conservative
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« Reply #5 on: May 16, 2009, 04:06:40 AM »

I think the answer to the question is the expatriate communities of countries which were taken over by communists many years ago: Vietnamese and Cubans in California and Florida respectively.

As was said before, there are many wealthier immigrants in Canada who are not receptive to the NDP. But until the Conservatives ditch their reactionary, anti-intellectual, and semi-racist elements (the year after the Leafs win the Stanley Cup), it will be hard to win those votes.

2008 was an awful election for the Liberals, but still they managed to win the majority of non-white and wealthier votes.
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« Reply #6 on: May 18, 2009, 01:55:30 PM »

The newest poll on ethnic Turkish voting patterns in Germany (early this year) runs

SPD 55.5
Greens 23.3
CDU/CSU 10.1
Left 9.4
FDP 0.9

Unlike some earlier polls, this was actually a poll of ethnic Turkish German citizens, not of Turks in Germany irrespective of citizenship.

They also asked who they would vote for if they had to vote in Turkey. I suppose for once they presented the data American-style on that (ie leaving undecideds in) which I would like for all German polls, frankly: AKP 32, CHP 18, other or undecided 50 (didn't see the breakdown).
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« Reply #7 on: May 18, 2009, 01:58:05 PM »

OMG ITALIA


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