What are the 5 worst types of nationalism?

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

Obviously all nationalism is evil, but what are the 5 worst examples?

I vote for:

1-Irish
2-Zionism
3-Kosovar Albanian
4-Turkish
5-American

[Lunar]

Are the Irish nationalists still around?

Maybe at some level if if you drive it underground enough all you're left with are crazies

[phk]

Pan-Arabism

[GMantis]

1. Pan-Turkism
2. American
3. Zionism
4. Albanian
5. Hindu nationalism

[k-onmmunist]

1. Russian
2. Irish
3. Ukrainian
4. Mexican
5. Pan-Arabism

[GMantis]

1. Russian

3. Ukrainian

This is a rare combination

[Lief 🗽]

1. All of the above

Nationalism should be thrown to the trash heap of history.

[Keystone Phil]

Are the Irish nationalists still around?

BRTD, being his typically ignorant self, is obviously confusing the Irish with many Irish Americans.

[War on Want]

1. Russian
2. Irish
3. Ukrainian
4. Mexican
5. Pan-Arabism

lol wut

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

Are the Irish nationalists still around?

BRTD, being his typically ignorant self, is obviously confusing the Irish with many Irish Americans.

No I'm referring to the actual Irish who love bombing shopping malls.

[Hash]

1. Russian
2. Hindu
3. Turkish
4. Pan-Arab
5. Corsican and/or Greek

[Bono]

The nationalist type.

[minionofmidas]

Bono is on the right track.

[GMantis]

Bono is on the right track.

Still, some kinds of nationalism are more dangerous than others. For example, when they're expressed by a particularly large country or when they have official government backing.

[minionofmidas]

Bono is on the right track.

Still, some kinds of nationalism are more dangerous than others. For example, when they're expressed by a particularly large country or when they have official government backing.

Yes... or when the identity expressed is a particularly fuzzy one and a lot of similarly valid nationalist movements collide...
but these things change over time. No point, none at all, in drawing up lists of nationalities that are particularly "bad".

[GMantis]

Bono is on the right track.

Still, some kinds of nationalism are more dangerous than others. For example, when they're expressed by a particularly large country or when they have official government backing.

Yes... or when the identity expressed is a particularly fuzzy one and a lot of similarly valid nationalist movements collide...
but these things change over time. No point, none at all, in drawing up lists of nationalities that are particularly "bad".

Well, this is an attempt to see which are currently worst.

[Storebought]

1. White
2. Black (because it is god-damned pathetic)

The Slavic and Mexican nationalisms are odious as well, but they've already been mentioned.

[Antonio the Sixth]

Today :
- Russian
- Chinese
- Turkish
- Serbian
- Israeli

Historically :
- German
- Japanese
- Italian
- Sovietic
- Spain, Portugal and South America

[GMantis]

1. White
2. Black (because it is god-damned pathetic)

The Slavic and Mexican nationalisms are odious as well, but they've already been mentioned.

What's so bad about the Slavic nationalims (and why do you mean by this term? THe nationalisms of all Slavs? Panslavism?)?

[Storebought]

1. White
2. Black (because it is god-damned pathetic)

The Slavic and Mexican nationalisms are odious as well, but they've already been mentioned.

What's so bad about the Slavic nationalims (and why do you mean by this term? THe nationalisms of all Slavs? Panslavism?)?

Russian nationalism expresses itself as the violent, visible suppression of foreign nationals and internal minorities within Russia and of the non-Russian majorities in the surrounding countries where ethnic Russians constitute a significant plurality.

That alone makes Russian nationalism contemptible, but the Russian nationalists in government also combine that (state-sanctioned) political violence with blackmail of the economies surrounding it through petropolitik; instigating revolts in Third World countries just to take temporary advantage of the ensuing social dislocation -- the games they play with Iran threaten all civilization -- all leavened with an arrogance to think that their thuggery and whole-hearted support for internal corruption is somehow rational and politically sophisticated**!

I should have been clearer about what I meant by Slavic nationalisms: I mean specifically, and emphatically, Russian, Serbian, Bosnian (Christian and Muslim) and Pan-Slavic nationalisms, all of which display the traits I just described. The Polish, Ukrainian, and Croat nationalisms, because they are Western oriented, are less offensive to national security, personal safety, and liberalism than the Orthodox- and Islamic-inspired ones. OTOH Macedonian "nationalism" is just a little short of embarrassing.

With that said, how do you consider American nationalism as the second biggest threat today?

**I say this with full awareness of the US war in Iraq.

[GMantis]

I should have been clearer about what I meant by Slavic nationalisms: I mean specifically, and emphatically, Russian, Serbian, Bosnian (Christian and Muslim) and Pan-Slavic nationalisms, all of which display the traits I just described. The Polish, Ukrainian, and Croat nationalisms, because they are Western oriented, are less offensive to national security, personal safety, and liberalism than the Orthodox- and Islamic-inspired ones. OTOH Macedonian "nationalism" is just a little short of embarrassing.

With that said, how do you consider American nationalism as the second biggest threat today?

**I say this with full awareness of the US war in Iraq.

You obviously haven't heard of Operation Storm, or of the proportion of Serbs in Croatia to the one in 1991, or you wouldn't sprout that nonsense about the benign Croatian nationalism (and lets not even start with the Catholic-supported Ustache movement). And Croats also participated in the massacres in Bosnia
Ukrainian nationalism is even more repressive to national minorities than Russian nationalism, and is mostly Eastern Orthodox based, to add.
Polish nationalism has little targets left in Poland, but it's extremely antisemitic in nature (same goes for the Ukrainian one).
Pan-Slavism is mostly dead. It's role, while it existed was mixed - on one hand, it supported Russian expansion, on the other it defended those Slavs - then the majority - who didn't have their own nations.
And regarding the Eastern Orthodox church as inspiring nationalism is incorrect and simplified, considering that Serbia and Russia are not especially religious. Also, the Eastern Orthodox church has often protected national minorities.
American nationalism is dangerous, because it's expressed in the most powerfull nation in the world and a significant current within it (for example, the last administration) support extending America's dominant role in the world, which has caused quite a few wars, coups and revolts. Russian nationalism, in comparison seems  mostly defensive.