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« on: April 19, 2009, 11:32:27 AM »

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« Reply #1 on: April 19, 2009, 12:59:06 PM »

Go get 'em.
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« Reply #2 on: April 19, 2009, 01:17:35 PM »

Obama will never do anything. So it's up to Israel. Thank God for them.
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« Reply #3 on: April 19, 2009, 04:08:50 PM »

Hell, Bush already told them no last Spring cite
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...but that's not to say the situation on the ground can't, hasn't or won't change to a point where it would be a wise decision to allow them the go ahead.
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« Reply #4 on: April 19, 2009, 04:09:15 PM »

Obama will never do anything. So it's up to Israel. Thank God for them.

This.
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« Reply #5 on: April 19, 2009, 04:11:53 PM »

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...but that's not to say the situation on the ground can't, hasn't or won't change to a point where it would be a wise decision to allow them the go ahead.
Nice to see that you're realizing that this will happen only in close coordination with the US. Because we all know that the first US government reaction to a potential attack will be utter shock...
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« Reply #6 on: April 19, 2009, 04:19:21 PM »

Not much good can come from this.
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« Reply #7 on: April 19, 2009, 04:42:13 PM »

Hell, Bush already told them no last Spring cite
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...but that's not to say the situation on the ground can't, hasn't or won't change to a point where it would be a wise decision to allow them the go ahead.

There's a difference. Bush had a 30% approval rating at the time, he would have been impeached. Obama has a 60% approval rating. He has political capital to spend.
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« Reply #8 on: April 19, 2009, 04:47:21 PM »

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...but that's not to say the situation on the ground can't, hasn't or won't change to a point where it would be a wise decision to allow them the go ahead.
Nice to see that you're realizing that this will happen only in close coordination with the US. Because we all know that the first US government reaction to a potential attack will be utter shock...
Yes to your first line, very much no to your second.  When in the past have Israeli fighters crossed US controlled airspace to blow something up without the US acknowledging it after the fact?
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« Reply #9 on: April 19, 2009, 04:48:04 PM »

Go Israel!
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« Reply #10 on: April 19, 2009, 04:49:01 PM »

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...but that's not to say the situation on the ground can't, hasn't or won't change to a point where it would be a wise decision to allow them the go ahead.
Nice to see that you're realizing that this will happen only in close coordination with the US. Because we all know that the first US government reaction to a potential attack will be utter shock...
Yes to your first line, very much no to your second.  When in the past have Israeli fighters crossed US controlled airspace to blow something up without the US acknowledging it after the fact?
The utter shock will be a bit exagerrated...
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« Reply #11 on: April 19, 2009, 04:57:14 PM »

I'm not understanding what you're getting at here.  How could we act shocked?  That would mean our RADAR is as bad as a third world nations.
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« Reply #12 on: April 19, 2009, 05:01:07 PM »

I'm not understanding what you're getting at here.  How could we act shocked?  That would mean our RADAR is as bad as a third world nations.
Oh, I see what you mean. In this case the US won't able to avoid responsibility at all, which is probably why even Bush forbade it.
There are two other routes between Israel and Iran, but I very much doubt that either Turkey or Saudi Arabia would give consent to an Israeli attack force (Saudi Arabia even refuses to recognize Israel). And I don't think they would dare fly without permission (well, perhaps over Saudi Arabia).
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« Reply #13 on: April 19, 2009, 05:03:43 PM »

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« Reply #14 on: April 19, 2009, 05:12:43 PM »

I hope Obama tells them no forcefully.
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« Reply #15 on: April 19, 2009, 05:15:09 PM »

Do all the posters cheering for Israel realize what could be the consequences of such an attack ?
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« Reply #16 on: April 19, 2009, 05:23:40 PM »

Do all the posters cheering for Israel realize what could be the consequences of such an attack ?
Nope.
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« Reply #17 on: April 19, 2009, 05:33:36 PM »

Do all the posters cheering for Israel realize what could be the consequences of such an attack ?
A slow down of Iran's nuclear program?  Europe and the Arab states throwing a hissy fit at the UN?  Further real world testing of current avionics and other war fighting gear?  More experience for Israeli pilots?  How are any of these bad things?
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« Reply #18 on: April 19, 2009, 05:36:32 PM »

Go Israel, the only bad thing is this could lead to WWIII.
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« Reply #19 on: April 19, 2009, 05:41:55 PM »

This wouldn't lead to WW3, but we would get a similar reaction from Iran as we got from Iraq after Osirak. Obama will likely say no until he sees the effects of his diplomatic efforts, which have barely begun. Of course, I do think it's smart of Israel to make sure they can do it just in case. It could always be used as a retaliatory maneuver as well.
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« Reply #20 on: April 19, 2009, 05:46:28 PM »

Do all the posters cheering for Israel realize what could be the consequences of such an attack ?
A slow down of Iran's nuclear program?  Europe and the Arab states throwing a hissy fit at the UN?  Further real world testing of current avionics and other war fighting gear?  More experience for Israeli pilots?  How are any of these bad things?
An upsurge in violence in all Shiite areas - including Southern Iraq, which was relatively peaceful? A new Hezbollah attack on Israel? An even more unlikely peace in the Israel-Palestine conflict. A strengthening of fundamentalists in Iran and scuttling of any democratizing for a long time in Iran? Iran retaliating by closing the Persian Gulf? A spreading of the conflict, causing a destabilization of many Middle East countries and a possible escalation into global war? I don't know about you, but in my book these are bad things.
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« Reply #21 on: April 19, 2009, 05:47:16 PM »

Go Israel, the only bad thing is this could lead to WWIII.
I hope this is sarcastic.
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« Reply #22 on: April 19, 2009, 06:28:28 PM »

Do all the posters cheering for Israel realize what could be the consequences of such an attack ?
A slow down of Iran's nuclear program?  Europe and the Arab states throwing a hissy fit at the UN?  Further real world testing of current avionics and other war fighting gear?  More experience for Israeli pilots?  How are any of these bad things?
An upsurge in violence in all Shiite areas - including Southern Iraq, which was relatively peaceful? A new Hezbollah attack on Israel? An even more unlikely peace in the Israel-Palestine conflict. A strengthening of fundamentalists in Iran and scuttling of any democratizing for a long time in Iran? Iran retaliating by closing the Persian Gulf? A spreading of the conflict, causing a destabilization of many Middle East countries and a possible escalation into global war? I don't know about you, but in my book these are bad things.
As is Iran, a nation who's leaders have made threats towards Israel and often fully supported violent acts towards it, having access to nuclear weapons.  I know anti-Zionists wouldn't care if Tel Aviv was a radioactive wasteland, but the rest of us do.
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« Reply #23 on: April 19, 2009, 06:41:48 PM »

Do all the posters cheering for Israel realize what could be the consequences of such an attack ?
A slow down of Iran's nuclear program?  Europe and the Arab states throwing a hissy fit at the UN?  Further real world testing of current avionics and other war fighting gear?  More experience for Israeli pilots?  How are any of these bad things?
An upsurge in violence in all Shiite areas - including Southern Iraq, which was relatively peaceful? A new Hezbollah attack on Israel? An even more unlikely peace in the Israel-Palestine conflict. A strengthening of fundamentalists in Iran and scuttling of any democratizing for a long time in Iran? Iran retaliating by closing the Persian Gulf? A spreading of the conflict, causing a destabilization of many Middle East countries and a possible escalation into global war? I don't know about you, but in my book these are bad things.
As is Iran, a nation who's leaders have made threats towards Israel and often fully supported violent acts towards it, having access to nuclear weapons.  I know anti-Zionists wouldn't care if Tel Aviv was a radioactive wasteland, but the rest of us do.
Nice strawman attack. An Israeli attack has a good chance of failing (or not delay the Iranian nuclear project for a long time), with the potential to bring many of the disasters described above, without any of the benefits. And strange how everybody forgets about the large stockpile of Israeli nuclear weapons, with the means to deliver them to Iran. The Iranian leaders haven't shown suicidal tendencies before and it's unlikely they will do so in the future.
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« Reply #24 on: April 19, 2009, 06:58:08 PM »

When people start realizing that there will never be peace in the Middle East the world will be alot better off.
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