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Question: Who is your favorite South American head of state?
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Cristina Fernández de Kirchner (Argentina)
 
#2
Evo Morales (Bolivia)
 
#3
Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva (Brazil)
 
#4
Michelle Bachelet (Chile)
 
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Álvaro Uribe (Colombia)
 
#6
Rafael Correa (Ecuador)
 
#7
Bharrat Jagdeo (Guyana)
 
#8
Fernando Lugo (Paraguay)
 
#9
Alan García (Peru)
 
#10
Ronald Venetiaan (Suriname)
 
#11
Tabaré Vázquez (Uruguay)
 
#12
Hugo Chávez (Venezuela)
 
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« Reply #25 on: April 25, 2009, 02:21:27 PM »

I guess you mean in a "Not so good for a Catholic bishop" kind of way.  Tongue

In the "three kids, at least" kind of way, yeah.
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« Reply #26 on: April 25, 2009, 02:29:39 PM »

Álvaro Uribe, one of my favorite leaders in the world.
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« Reply #27 on: April 27, 2009, 12:52:30 AM »

A lot of them seem to be quite good (Bachelet, Vazquez, Morales, Correa)

But i would have to pick Lula.
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« Reply #28 on: April 27, 2009, 01:16:42 AM »

A lot of them seem to be quite good (Bachelet, Vazquez, Morales, Correa)

But i would have to pick Lula.

We broadly agree. Is Christina Fernandez K disliked in Argentina? I'd be amazed if she wasn't...
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« Reply #29 on: April 27, 2009, 12:01:59 PM »

The Colombian guy. He put down pretty well the drug folks and Marxists. He's not being intimidated by the nutter next door. He's honest. He's a mensch.
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« Reply #30 on: April 27, 2009, 12:04:26 PM »

The Colombian guy. He put down pretty well the drug folks and Marxists. He's not being intimidated by the nutter next door. He's honest. He's a mensch.

How can anyone be intimidated by Chavez? It's not like he commands a formidable army or what.
You think he is he some kind of closet Imperialist?
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« Reply #31 on: April 27, 2009, 12:28:18 PM »

The Colombian guy. He put down pretty well the drug folks and Marxists. He's not being intimidated by the nutter next door. He's honest. He's a mensch.

How can anyone be intimidated by Chavez? It's not like he commands a formidable army or what.
You think he is he some kind of closet Imperialist?

He is a wanna be Castro, and has effected military maneuvers to intimidate the Colombian guy.
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« Reply #32 on: April 27, 2009, 12:35:56 PM »

Alvaro Uribe. As has been said previously he's put down the drug lords, got a bunch of paramilitary groups to disband or lose most of their territory, ignored Chavez and boosted the economy and greatly increased to record levels FDI. Good guy.
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« Reply #33 on: April 27, 2009, 03:21:56 PM »

The Colombian guy. He put down pretty well the drug folks and Marxists. He's not being intimidated by the nutter next door. He's honest. He's a mensch.

How can anyone be intimidated by Chavez? It's not like he commands a formidable army or what.
You think he is he some kind of closet Imperialist?

He is a wanna be Castro, and has effected military maneuvers to intimidate the Colombian guy.

Well, you must be a scaredy cat if some military maneuvers by the ...mighty Venezuelan army are enough to feel intimidated.
 
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« Reply #34 on: April 27, 2009, 04:39:17 PM »

I would have said Uribe, but he still hasn't discarded the option of running for another term. If he does, it will be a disaster. So, I'd vote Lula.
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« Reply #35 on: April 27, 2009, 04:40:13 PM »

Me of course.  Chavez by far, though South America has much better leaders generally than the North America.

Why do you hate South Americans so much?
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« Reply #36 on: April 28, 2009, 05:05:56 PM »

Morales followed by Correa
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« Reply #37 on: April 28, 2009, 06:33:18 PM »

Lula da Silva, followed by Alvaro Uribe. 
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« Reply #38 on: April 28, 2009, 08:06:22 PM »
« Edited: April 28, 2009, 08:08:00 PM by Jacobtm »

Under Alan García, Perú is doing pretty damned well for itself in this global depression. They'll likely come out of it relatively stronger and richer than most other South American nations.
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« Reply #39 on: April 29, 2009, 02:26:40 PM »

We broadly agree. Is Christina Fernandez K disliked in Argentina? I'd be amazed if she wasn't...

Yeah, according to the polls, she is. Her popularity has been plummeting since 2008 with the conflict between the government and the agricultural sector. other things that happened in the past year also eroded her popularity, like her fights with her vicepresident (who, truth be told has been acting like the opposition), the nationalization of a pretty big part of social security and the cover up of actual inflation numbers (inflation isn't that high right now, but definitely higher than what the government reports) among others.
She was also seen as inefficient in dealing with some natural disasters that happened and now we have a dengue outbreak in the north that's threatening to advance to the south (Which is also not as bad as some people say though).

Our midterm elections were supposed to happen in October of this year, but they were reorganized and now will happen in June. Many are saying that this is a desperate attempt of the government that obviously fears the country will be far worse off at the end of the year than what it is today (The reality is that the global economic crisis hasn't really affected us that much so far, at least in tangible terms).

It's hard to predict what will happen in the next few months. Cristina will surely lose in the Buenos Aires capital district and probably in the large provinces of Santa Fe and Cordoba. Most of the other provinces are more Cristina friendly than the big ones so i have no idea how she'll fare there. The big prize will be the Buenos Aires province, which is the largest one (around 14 or 15 million people) and will be hotly contested by the opposition.

The problem with the opposition is that they don't have a a common ideology, most of them are just allied against the government. You have leftist elements (Like Elisa Carrio and some socialist parties) and you have a clearly right wing element (Like Businessman Francisco De Narvaez or Mauricio Macri). There are even some factions of the peronist party who will present candidates against the government and even the Union Civica Radical which was one of the 2 main parties in opposition to the Peronist party for most of the 20Th century are now pretty much divided between Pro-Government and Anti-Government factions. So it's really hard to predict how things will go in Congress, even with and unpopular president.

How i miss the days when there were only 2 main parties with the relatively strong third party challenge Tongue


However, i really believe that the present South American governments are among the best of the past 50 - 100 years. I mean, they are not perfect but just look at Argentina for instance. We had a lot of dictatorships, extremely corrupt governments and our economy has been in the tank more often than not. I'm not going to say that this government is completely clean and our economy is great, but the general feeling that i have is that it's a whole lot better than in the past decades, plus we are in a democracy and there is little to no chance of a military coup.
Countries like Brazil, Chile and Uruguay are doing pretty well with stable democracies, and looking at Bolivia's past governments I would say Morales looks like an improvement who at least seems to care about poor people in the country. Colombia also probably has it's best president in a while. And Peru, Ecuador and Paraguay are a lot more stable than before.
The only exception might be Chavez in Venezuela, but i won't instantly condemn the guy considering that he has a lot of popular support and i don't know a whole lot when it comes to venezuelan politics.


I hope people can understand my post, i always seem to rush myself when i write in english Tongue
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