Which Italian coalition would you belong to?

[Keystone Phil]

These are the major parties/coalitions represented in the Italian Parliament. I didn't include the SVP since they're a minor regional party (whereas a regional party like Lega Nord is obviously a major force).

[RIP Robert H Bork]

No idea, I would need to know more about each.

[Keystone Phil]

Lega Nord=Regionalism

And far right

[Lief 🗽]

What a thoroughly depressing party system. PD I suppose.

[Keystone Phil]

What a thoroughly depressing party system.

This makes me feel even better. 

Anyway, the PD would be fine for you.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

The Communists.

[Serenity Now]

Not Berlusconi's at any rate..

[Hash]

You forgot the Rainbow Left or whatever the Commies/Greenies call themselves. Also, Italia dei Valori is associated to the PD, just like Lega Nord is associated to PdL.

No idea, I would need to know more about each.

Popolo della Liberta=centre-right
Partito Democratico=centre-left
Lega Nord=Regionalism
Unione de Centro=Christian democracy, Social conservatism
Italia dei Valori=Populism, Centrism anti-corruption

lol. Italian parties have no ideology anymore. PdL is just Berlusconi's personal machine, which happens to be on the right and unites what is left of the First Republic's rightist parties (neo-fascist MSI, liberals, and so forth) but by far dominated by Forza Italia, Berlusconi's personalist party. PD is an unholy alliance of anybody opposed to Berlusconi and doesn't really have an ideology either, even though it happens to unite generally centre-left parties. As I said, it's an unholy alliance of former Communists, former Socialists, and former (conservative) Christian democrats. PD's pattern of support is also very much an unholy alliance. The UDC is what is left of the DC crooks who didn't join either coalition, Lega Nord originated as a northern protest party against DC and picked up votes of a lot of former DC but also PSI and PCI voters in the north, and Italia dei Valori is an ideologically diverse parties who existence is based solely on Berlusconi's rise to power. In a way, all Italian parties today are based around Berlusconi, either opposition or support to him. Either that or a personality cult.

Also remember that these are all corrupt.

[Speed of Sound]

Blech blech blech. How....Eastern European in style.

Partito Socialista. Enough power that a great candidate and hard work could push their numbers into a couple of seats. Better than SPUSA can say.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

I would vote PD. But I would not be a member.

[Keystone Phil]

You forgot the Rainbow Left or whatever the Commies/Greenies call themselves. Also, Italia dei Valori is associated to the PD, just like Lega Nord is associated to PdL.

Ah, I didn't know that (about IdV) but I wanted them seperate since they are major parties in their own right. I don't know that the Communists and Greens are that big of a deal today.

[paul718]

What happened to Forza Italia?

[Keystone Phil]

What happened to Forza Italia?

It actually technically dissolved. The PdL is basically the same party under a new name. They're very weird over there. 


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forza_Italia#Toward_The_People_of_Freedom_.282006.E2.80.932009.29

[Bleeding heart conservative, HTMLdon]

PdL (Normal)

[Keystone Phil]

PdL (Normal)

Hmmm...I don't know what to think of this. I'd think that you'd be more inclined to support the IdV on a lot of things (and the fact that they are seen as centrists) but, then again, you have to throw conventional ideology out the window over there a lot of the time.

[Associate Justice PiT]

     PdL by default, I guess.

[Hash]

PdL (Normal)

Hmmm...I don't know what to think of this. I'd think that you'd be more inclined to support the IdV on a lot of things (and the fact that they are seen as centrists) but, then again, you have to throw conventional ideology out the window over there a lot of the time.

Ideology doesn't play a role in Italy anymore. Your opinion of Berlusconi determines your political affiliation, pretty much. Ideology probably only plays a role to determine which pro-Berlusconi or anti-Berlusconi group you fall in. Maybe.

You forgot the Rainbow Left or whatever the Commies/Greenies call themselves. Also, Italia dei Valori is associated to the PD, just like Lega Nord is associated to PdL.

Ah,I I didn't know that (about IdV) but I wanted them seperate since they are major parties in their own right. I don't know that the Communists and Greens are that big of a deal today.

Well, the Communists do control one regional executive in Italy (Puglia). But then.

[The Man From G.O.P.]

Lega Nord or PdL

[Keystone Phil]

PdL (Normal)

Hmmm...I don't know what to think of this. I'd think that you'd be more inclined to support the IdV on a lot of things (and the fact that they are seen as centrists) but, then again, you have to throw conventional ideology out the window over there a lot of the time.

Ideology doesn't play a role in Italy anymore. Your opinion of Berlusconi determines your political affiliation, pretty much. Ideology probably only plays a role to determine which pro-Berlusconi or anti-Berlusconi group you fall in. Maybe.

Yeah, I know. That's going to hurt both parties once the guy is gone.

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Really? Horrible. 

[Hash]

Well, the Communists do control one regional executive in Italy (Puglia). But then.

Really? Horrible. 

They'll probably lose it to the right in 2010. After all, I don't think a gay communist fits in very well with a conservative Catholic region like Puglia.

[opebo]

Ugh, bad as the US, which considering they're in Europe shows there must be something terribly wrong with them.

[Keystone Phil]

After all, I don't think a gay communist fits in very well with a conservative Catholic region like Puglia.

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Then how did they the Communists win in the first place?

[Hash]

After all, I don't think a gay communist fits in very well with a conservative Catholic region like Puglia.

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Then how did they the Communists win in the first place?

Coalition with the moderate left. 2005. T'was something like 49.8-49.2 in the presidential ballot.

[Keystone Phil]

After all, I don't think a gay communist fits in very well with a conservative Catholic region like Puglia.

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Then how did they the Communists win in the first place?

Coalition with the moderate left. 2005.

Ah, ok. Thanks for the information.

[Keystone Phil]

I just looked into the gay, Communist President and noticed that he beat a very young guy for the position (in a very close race). The former President, Raffaele Fitto, is only 39 years old (only in his early 30s when he was elected) and now serves in the Berlusconi government. A rising star, perhaps...