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« on: February 10, 2009, 11:11:15 AM »

It's known by Americans across the entire political spectrum how absurdly massive this bill is...and yet Obama's popularity is ranging between 60-70%. How the hell is that happening? Can you imagine if Americans were questioning a bill like this coming from George Bush? How low would his approval be? 5%?
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« Reply #1 on: February 10, 2009, 11:14:27 AM »

People want to give him a chance, Naso.  People always want to give new Presidents a chance.

Grow up and learn.
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« Reply #2 on: February 10, 2009, 11:20:34 AM »

It's known by Americans across the entire political spectrum how absurdly massive this bill is...and yet Obama's popularity is ranging between 60-70%. How the hell is that happening? Can you imagine if Americans were questioning a bill like this coming from George Bush? How low would his approval be? 5%?

The public's approval does depend on whether you're spending $800 billion on stuff that will actually help some Americans...and create jobs......or whether you're spending it on useless military stuff. In Dubya's case, it'd be the latter....so naturally, his approval rating wouldn't profit from it.

And of course what Spade said.
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« Reply #3 on: February 10, 2009, 11:28:56 AM »

Actually, if Bush had a similar plan like this, I would approve.
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« Reply #4 on: February 10, 2009, 11:32:39 AM »

It's known by Americans across the entire political spectrum how absurdly massive this bill is...and yet Obama's popularity is ranging between 60-70%. How the hell is that happening? Can you imagine if Americans were questioning a bill like this coming from George Bush? How low would his approval be? 5%?

The public's approval does depend on whether you're spending $800 billion on stuff that will actually help some Americans...and create jobs......or whether you're spending it on useless military stuff. In Dubya's case, it'd be the latter....so naturally, his approval rating wouldn't profit from it.

And of course what Spade said.

Actually, the spending is just as useless (if not worse).  And, in general, the American people know it (or at least are inclined to sense it, which is the same in my book).

But they're still going to support for the reason above.

My conversations with various NYC friends about the plan (i.e. people who voted for Obama) who have half a brain (as opposed to the kids who have no brains) made this observation even more, well, obvious.

Anyway, Spade knows what is coming, and says - be patient.
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« Reply #5 on: February 10, 2009, 11:40:22 AM »

It's known by Americans across the entire political spectrum how absurdly massive this bill is...and yet Obama's popularity is ranging between 60-70%. How the hell is that happening? Can you imagine if Americans were questioning a bill like this coming from George Bush? How low would his approval be? 5%?

Because the public vaguely supports the bill [Sam will say, "for now"]

And the public isn't you

And George Bush came with a similarly sized bill once upon a time (a couple months ago).
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« Reply #6 on: February 10, 2009, 12:42:02 PM »

I may not agree with his way of fixing the economy, but I am really impressed watching him right now trying to sell it at this town hall meeting. He's a smooth politician and makes you feel at ease right now.
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« Reply #7 on: February 10, 2009, 12:45:28 PM »

Anyway, Spade knows what is coming, and says - be patient.

Where is my bedtime story Angry
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« Reply #8 on: February 10, 2009, 12:56:20 PM »

It's known by Americans across the entire political spectrum how absurdly massive this bill is...and yet Obama's popularity is ranging between 60-70%. How the hell is that happening? Can you imagine if Americans were questioning a bill like this coming from George Bush? How low would his approval be? 5%?

Because the public vaguely supports the bill [Sam will say, "for now"]

And the public isn't you

And George Bush came with a similarly sized bill once upon a time (a couple months ago).

Lunar beat me to it, but has Mike already forgotten TARP?  It wasn't that long ago.
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« Reply #9 on: February 10, 2009, 12:57:09 PM »

Obama's actions so far have been dissapointing.
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« Reply #10 on: February 10, 2009, 01:51:55 PM »

It's known by Americans across the entire political spectrum how absurdly massive this bill is...and yet Obama's popularity is ranging between 60-70%. How the hell is that happening? Can you imagine if Americans were questioning a bill like this coming from George Bush? How low would his approval be? 5%?

Double standards, of course.
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« Reply #11 on: February 10, 2009, 02:15:12 PM »

Anyway, Spade knows what is coming, and says - be patient.

Where is my bedtime story Angry

hehe Smiley
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« Reply #12 on: February 10, 2009, 02:17:57 PM »

Because Obama is giving people the audacity of hope.. but people like Naso just can not stand it.
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« Reply #13 on: February 10, 2009, 02:18:35 PM »
« Edited: February 10, 2009, 02:48:01 PM by No Bipartisanship »

It's known by Americans across the entire political spectrum how absurdly massive this bill is

False. It's only the right-wing hacks who think that this bill is absurdly massive. Reasonable people understand the need for a massive spending package like this.
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« Reply #14 on: February 10, 2009, 02:24:28 PM »

It's known by Americans across the entire political spectrum how absurdly massive this bill is...and yet Obama's popularity is ranging between 60-70%. How the hell is that happening? Can you imagine if Americans were questioning a bill like this coming from George Bush? How low would his approval be? 5%?

It's far less "absurdly massive" than Bush's tax cuts were.

And, oh yeah, a majority of Americans support the bill!
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« Reply #15 on: February 10, 2009, 02:40:16 PM »

Naso,

your gal palin lost!

the map wasn't exactly like 2004,

get over it

stop whining

and stop being against your own country that you want to serve in the military.
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« Reply #16 on: February 10, 2009, 02:59:56 PM »

The bill is supported by most Americans you dolt, and they have MUCH more confidence in Obama than Republicans in Congress.  You know the idea of changing the current policy rather than doing the same failed thing over & over the Republicans in Congress want to do so bad...
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« Reply #17 on: February 10, 2009, 03:08:46 PM »

Not everything will be like they are now, James.
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« Reply #18 on: February 10, 2009, 03:18:49 PM »

Duke, and the other repubs:

I would have voted for McCain untill he chose Palin as his running mate.
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« Reply #19 on: February 10, 2009, 11:49:07 PM »

It's known by Americans across the entire political spectrum how absurdly massive this bill is...and yet Obama's popularity is ranging between 60-70%. How the hell is that happening? Can you imagine if Americans were questioning a bill like this coming from George Bush? How low would his approval be? 5%?

The public's approval does depend on whether you're spending $800 billion on stuff that will actually help some Americans...and create jobs......or whether you're spending it on useless military stuff. In Dubya's case, it'd be the latter....so naturally, his approval rating wouldn't profit from it.

And of course what Spade said.

Actually, the spending is just as useless (if not worse).  And, in general, the American people know it (or at least are inclined to sense it, which is the same in my book).

But they're still going to support for the reason above.

My conversations with various NYC friends about the plan (i.e. people who voted for Obama) who have half a brain (as opposed to the kids who have no brains) made this observation even more, well, obvious.

Anyway, Spade knows what is coming, and says - be patient.

Hmm, is this like that time when you knew who would win the Democratic Presidential nomination...
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« Reply #20 on: February 10, 2009, 11:57:10 PM »

Actually, if Bush had a similar plan like this, I would approve move to Ireland like a true capitalist.
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« Reply #21 on: February 11, 2009, 01:02:37 AM »

Obama will have somewhat of a short leash much like Reagan in 1981-83 did.  But if this stimulus aka "pork chop bill" fails then those ratings won't look so good right before the 2012 election.


Don't worry he's pretty much toast.
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« Reply #22 on: February 11, 2009, 01:26:30 AM »

Actually, if Bush had a similar plan like this, I would approve move to Ireland like a true capitalist.

A country whose economy is 10X worse off than that of the United States?
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« Reply #23 on: February 11, 2009, 03:27:05 PM »

Naso, the spending bill is very small, and inadequate.  Many more such bills will be necessary before any end will be made to the depression.

Now, whether the average dumb voter understands this is debateable.  Certainly though the point is well made that this bill is very small compared to the wasteful Bush tax giveaways.
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« Reply #24 on: February 11, 2009, 03:28:20 PM »

It's known by Americans across the entire political spectrum how absurdly massive this bill is...and yet Obama's popularity is ranging between 60-70%. How the hell is that happening? Can you imagine if Americans were questioning a bill like this coming from George Bush? How low would his approval be? 5%?

Because if you disapprove of him you are labeled a racist?
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