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« on: January 31, 2009, 02:02:02 PM »

...14 of the 18 provinces that is, excluding the Kurdistan Region provinces and Kirkuk (pending determination of Kirkuk's status... which is getting postponed and postponed and postponed).
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« Reply #1 on: January 31, 2009, 02:03:52 PM »

Somebody can point me to the new website of the Electoral Commission? The old one hasn't been around for a while, apparently.

Oh yah, election by open lists, with a women's quota. Results in the mostly Sunni Arab provinces should be fun, as the first election four years ago was of course boycotted by them so the provinces were so far ruled by Shi'as and/or Kurds.
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« Reply #2 on: January 31, 2009, 02:08:13 PM »

I haven't found the website of the electoral commish.
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« Reply #3 on: January 31, 2009, 02:45:31 PM »

As usual, I'm rooting for whatever coalition the ICP is now in.  It's the only sane party Iraq has ever had (and yes, that's pretty much the only country out there where the Communist Party's better than all of the alternatives...but to be fair, they aren't really Communists).
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« Reply #4 on: January 31, 2009, 02:46:22 PM »

As usual, I'm rooting for whatever coalition the ICP is now in.  It's the only sane party Iraq has ever had (and yes, that's pretty much the only country out there where the Communist Party's better than all of the alternatives...but to be fair, they aren't really Communists).

And why not Allawi's secular grouping thingee?
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« Reply #5 on: January 31, 2009, 02:49:07 PM »

As usual, I'm rooting for whatever coalition the ICP is now in.  It's the only sane party Iraq has ever had (and yes, that's pretty much the only country out there where the Communist Party's better than all of the alternatives...but to be fair, they aren't really Communists).

And why not Allawi's secular grouping thingee?

Is Allawi still the same as he was four years ago?  If so, then "Saddam-light" isn't a position I'm particularly enamored with.
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« Reply #6 on: February 01, 2009, 03:46:21 AM »

http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5gRiC_1o-FC6_V8AzSSe7sJUovbyg

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« Reply #7 on: February 01, 2009, 07:02:45 AM »
« Edited: February 01, 2009, 07:53:50 AM by ican'tbelievei'mnotverin »

In the 2005 parliamentary elections, turnout was 59 percent as minority Sunnis still angry about the US-led invasion that ousted Saddam Hussein massively boycotted the poll.
Actually, that is the provincial and "transitional assembly" (=constituent assembly) elections of January 2005 (ie, the elections this one most directly compares to). The parliamentary elections of (december) 2005 had a turnout of almost 80 percent and were taken part in by the Sunni Arabs.
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« Reply #8 on: February 01, 2009, 07:35:34 AM »

"Early turnout percentages released by the Independent High Electoral Commission in Baghdad on Sunday for Iraq’s Provincial Elections on January 31 were:

Total number of registered voters: 14 million plus
Turnout: 7.5 million
Turnout percentage: 51%

Provinces turnout:
Basra: 48%
Maysan: 46%
Dhi Qar: 50%
Muthanna: 61%
Qadisiya: 58%
Najaf: 55%
Anbar: 40%
Salahaddin: 65%
Wasit: 54%
Karbala: 60%
Babel 56%
Diyala: 57%
Nineveh: 60%
Baghdad: awaiting figures from some polling centers– expected 39-40%"

Results to be released on tuesday.

EDIT: And I've found the website, too!
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« Reply #9 on: February 01, 2009, 07:37:41 AM »


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« Reply #10 on: February 01, 2009, 07:48:16 AM »

In the 2005 parliamentary elections, turnout was 59 percent as minority Sunnis still angry about the US-led invasion that ousted Saddam Hussein massively boycotted the poll.
Actually, that is the provincial and "transitional assembly" (=constituent assembly) elections of January 2005 (ie, the elections this one most directly compares to). The parliamentary[/] elections of (december) 2005 had a turnout of almost 80 percent and were taken part in by the Sunni Arabs.

Actually, yeah, I knew that (not the exact turnout figures, but the fact that the Sunnis participated in the Dec. 2005 election).  I was just quoting the article, and was too lazy to correct it.

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« Reply #11 on: February 02, 2009, 02:16:41 AM »

Apparently, there were complaints that a lot of voters were erroneously registered at their former addresses, and couldn't vote.  (Iraq has a large population of internally displaced people.)

Also, there are no official results yet, but a lot of rumors.  One recurring theme in the rumors is that Maliki's Dawa Party did well, while the SIIC (the other big Shiite religious party) sucked it big time:

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5hwK_CSpBxsNuVUEaDuOwmSSCiqGwD9637GP00

More rumors on results here:

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/02/world/middleeast/02iraq.html?hp

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« Reply #12 on: February 02, 2009, 06:46:34 AM »

It seems as if those elections will be bad news for stability in Iraq...
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« Reply #13 on: February 05, 2009, 05:53:31 AM »

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,24998189-15084,00.html


Iraqi voters turn to secular parties

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Correspondents in Baghdad | February 03, 2009
Article from:  The Australian

IRAQI voters have punished religious-leaning parties blamed for stoking sectarian violence, and rewarded secular parties seen as capable of holding the nation together, important shifts that will be welcomed in Washington and scorned in Tehran.

The biggest Shia party in Iraq once appeared to hold all the political sway: control of the heartland, the backing of influential clerics and a foot in the Government with ambitions to take full control.

But the days of wide-open horizons could be ending for the Supreme Islamic Iraqi Council, as the signs began to take shape yesterday with hints of the voter mood from provincial elections.

The broad message - built on Iraqi media projections and post-election interviews - was that the eventual results would punish religious-leaning factions such as the Supreme Council that are blamed for stoking sectarian violence, and reward Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki and several secular parties.

The early returns show Mr Maliki could be strengthened in his dealings with parliament before national elections to be held by next year. His Dawa Party drew strong support in Basra and Baghdad, two of Iraq's largest and most politically important provinces, according to political parties and election officials.

The outcome of the provincial polls will not directly affect Iraq's national policies or its balance between Washington's global power and Iran's regional muscle. But Shia political trends are critically important in Iraq, where the majority Shi'ites hold sway after the fall of Saddam Hussein's Sunni-dominated regime.

"There is a backlash from Iraqis against sectarian and religious politics," said Mustafa al-Ani, an Iraqi political analyst based in Dubai. "The voting gave us an indication of what will happen in the general election."

Although official results from the weekend's provincial elections are still days away, the early outlines are humbling for the Supreme Council. The group had been considered a linchpin in Iraqi politics as a junior partner in the government that had political control in the Shia south.

But forecasts point to widespread losses for the party across the main Shia provinces. The setbacks could include embarrassing stumbles in the key city of Basra and the spiritual centre of Najaf, hailed as the future capital in the Supreme Council's dreams for an autonomous Shia enclave.

The big election winners appear to be allies of Mr Maliki - a vivid lesson in Iraq's fluid politics.

A year ago, Mr Maliki looked to be sinking. Shia militiamen ruled cities such as Basra and parts of Baghdad, and rockets were hitting the protected Green Zone, which includes the US embassy and Iraq's parliament.

Mr Maliki - with apparent little advance co-ordination with the US - struck back. An offensive broke the militia control in Basra and elsewhere in the south, enhancing his reputation.

And many voters appeared happy to reward his political backers with seats on provincial councils, which carry significant clout with authority over local business contracts, jobs and local security forces.

"Al-Maliki ended the militiamen's reign of terror," said Faisal Hamadi, 58, after voting in Basra. "For this he deserves our vote."

The Supreme Council appeared to stagger under the weight of negative baggage.

It was accused of failing to deliver improvements to public services in the south. And its strong ties to Iran began to offend Iraqis' nationalist sentiments.

Its leader, Abdul Aziz al-Hakim, spent decades in Iran during Saddam's rule, and was allowed an office-villa in Tehran. After Saddam's fall, the Supreme Council was Iran's main political conduit into Iraq, although it also developed ties with the US.

Iran now could face limits on its influence in the south, with the Supreme Council forced into a coalition or second-tier status - and confront resistance from a stronger Maliki Government seeking to curb Tehran's inroads.

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« Reply #14 on: February 05, 2009, 08:04:55 AM »
« Edited: February 07, 2009, 05:24:49 AM by ican'tbelievei'mnotverin »


The broad message - built on Iraqi media projections and post-election interviews - was that the eventual results would punish religious-leaning factions such as the Supreme Council that are blamed for stoking sectarian violence, and reward Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki and several secular parties.

The early returns show Mr Maliki could be strengthened in his dealings with parliament before national elections to be held by next year. His Dawa Party drew strong support in Basra and Baghdad, two of Iraq's largest and most politically important provinces, according to political parties and election officials.
lol at the blatant attempt at making you think Dawa is "secular party" without actually saying so.

The results will have to be compared on a province-by-province basis, once we actually have them.
Attention will have to be paid to who alled with whom where - we don't even have that (there is that website I linked to, but it doesn't seem much interested in transmitting current information). Here is a list of 2005's distribution. Also to be watched for are the effects of the introduction of open lists - the previous elections were fought on closed lists.

That said, I wouldn't be surprised at all to see big Dawa gains at the expense of Sciri in Baghdad - it's one of the relatively few places where both parties actually ran against each other in 2005, and has been (badly, read the news) governed by Sciri, who won a majority back then, since.
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« Reply #15 on: February 05, 2009, 04:51:06 PM »

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,488490,00.html

Big win for Maliki's party. Especially strong results in Baghdad and Basra, according to the article. (I know nothing about Iraqi politics...but sounds good)
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« Reply #16 on: February 05, 2009, 05:05:13 PM »

The Dawa is not that good, but it's better than the other Shia religious parties.
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« Reply #17 on: February 06, 2009, 07:57:38 PM »

Preliminary results are out, and the NYT has hard numbers here:

http://baghdadbureau.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/02/05/election-preliminary-results/

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« Reply #18 on: February 07, 2009, 08:33:36 PM »

What a screwed up party system.
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