1980 in 2012: Obama turns into Carter

[Nicodeme Depape]

So let's assume that Obama turns into Carter. The economic stimulus wasn't very successful and Iraq is stable but borderline. Unemployment remains high. Obama's approval is hovering in the high 30's. The unpopular President garners a primary challenge.

In my opinion the two most likely to face off Obama:

Sec. of State Hillary Clinton
Senator Mark Warner

Feel free to do maps, etc. I'll probably try my hand at a map later.

[RIP Robert H Bork]

Obama gets only 5 or 6 states, something like this.

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Obama gets only 5 or 6 states, something like this.

LOL at Vermont

[Psychic Octopus]

What is with the Warner race against Obama it is unlikely. Warner would become a Gary Hart like figure in 2016.

[perdedor]

Obama gets only 5 or 6 states, something like this.

Seriously? Nothing northeast of Virginia (spare PA in an unlikely turn of events) will be voting for a Republican for President anytime soon, especially Vermont and Massachusetts. Also, California is not likely to go GOP either.

[Nicodeme Depape]

I believe that was a primary map. Which this thread is for.

[Landslide Lyndon]

I believe that was a primary map. Which this thread is for.

Even then, Obama will never lose Mississipi, Alabama, South Carolina, Georgia, Virginia, Louisiana or Maryland.

[pragmatic liberal]

I wish people on this forum would stop the ridiculous Mark Warner wet dreams.

The guy is a talented but fairly middle-of-the-road, uncharismatic, centrist senator from a Southern swing state.

This is not the profile of a hellraiser, primary challenger-type.

And frankly, I'm not even sure Mark Warner will ever run for president or will even win the nomination if he does run. He'll be in his 60s in 2016 and there will be plenty of newer, fresher, more liberal, more charismatic figures on the stage. If he had really wanted to be president, he would have run in 2008. He chose not to. That tells me it's not something he's particularly interested in.