How long before the media tries to bury Steele?

[The Man From G.O.P.]

Right now the MO is to not even mention it...


How long before people are discrediting him as a Republican Obama-mimic?

[Landslide Lyndon]

Right now the MO is to not even mention it...


How long before people are discrediting him as a Republican Obama-mimic?

I remember that during his 2006 Senate campaign the media were very friendly with him.

[ChrisFromNJ]

Right now the MO is to not even mention it...


How long before people are discrediting him as a Republican Obama-mimic?

Most of America will see the Double Stuf' Steele choice by the RNC for what it is.

[The Man From G.O.P.]

Right now the MO is to not even mention it...


How long before people are discrediting him as a Republican Obama-mimic?

Most of America will see the Double Stuf' Steele choice by the RNC for what it is.

Care to explain why you think that?

[ChrisFromNJ]

Right now the MO is to not even mention it...


How long before people are discrediting him as a Republican Obama-mimic?

Most of America will see the Double Stuf' Steele choice by the RNC for what it is.

Care to explain why you think that?

It's a blatant attempt at pandering for the black vote and trying to appear to be more "diverse". It won't work.

[Holmes]

Depends if he has skeletons in his closet or not.

[cinyc]

Right now the MO is to not even mention it...


How long before people are discrediting him as a Republican Obama-mimic?

Most of America will see the Double Stuf' Steele choice by the RNC for what it is.

The correct choice of the right man for the job - one who  has experience both running a state party and articulately advancing the conservative view on TV?

[BM]

Steele didn't win as a token. He wouldn't have even been a possibility if he wasn't so well known.  The only reason he gained momentum was because he was the only one with any semblance of a celebrity profile.  No one that isn't politically-obsessed would have cared if Katon Dawson won, not even conservatives.

[The Man From G.O.P.]

Right now the MO is to not even mention it...


How long before people are discrediting him as a Republican Obama-mimic?

Most of America will see the Double Stuf' Steele choice by the RNC for what it is.

Care to explain why you think that?

It's a blatant attempt at pandering for the black vote and trying to appear to be more "diverse". It won't work.

I'll just say our standing with Black Americans can't get any worse.


I do know that Steele is an extremely smart man who knows how to get a message out.

Then there's this:

1. Republicans are at rock bottom in both the black vote and nationwide.
2. Please look how blacks voted on Prop 8 in Cal.
3. How long can a group go to realize since the EP by Lincoln and desegregation that they aren't making traction using welfare?
4. Michael Williams (R-TX)
5. We're going to do much better than McCain by 2016

[The Man From G.O.P.]

Steele didn't win as a token. He wouldn't have even been a possibility if he wasn't so well known.  The only reason he gained momentum was because he was the only one with any semblance of a celebrity profile.  No one that isn't politically-obsessed would have cared if Katon Dawson won, not even conservatives.

I think you're a guy...

But that's exactly right, I have no idea who Dawson is, and I'm an obsessed Conservative.

[perdedor]

Steele likely won because the GOP didn't want a segregationist (Dawson) as the face of the party...well, at least a slim majority of them didn't.

[The Man From G.O.P.]

Steele likely won because the GOP didn't want a segregationist (Dawson) as the face of the party...well, at least a slim majority of them didn't.

If I were a democrat I'd be running an ad about him minutes after he was elected.

[Holmes]

2. Please look how blacks voted on Prop 8 in Cal.

59%, not 70%. And if the GOP thinks it can win black people on gay marriage, then the black vote Bush got in 2004 - 12%? - must be the ceiling.

[Brandon H]

I'm surprised they haven't started already. Maybe they figured since it's Friday they will wait until Monday.

[Lunar]

I'm surprised they haven't started already. Maybe they figured since it's Friday they will wait until Monday.

Good luck.  The Daily Kos already gave their best (an incident where Steele was extrapolating stem cell research to other forms of human experiments like what happened in Nazi death camps, and where Steele apologized).

There's an 86 page opposition research book from his 2006 Senate Race the Democrats released (it's on Politico) today, and the only interesting part of the 86 pages is that Nazi reference he apologized for.

Steele doesn't provide much fodder and the fact that he was backed by the moderate wing of the RNC (despite the fact that Steele is very, very conservative) should mediate some of it.

[Nicodeme Depape]

Right now the MO is to not even mention it...


How long before people are discrediting him as a Republican Obama-mimic?

Most of America will see the Double Stuf' Steele choice by the RNC for what it is.

The correct choice of the right man for the job - one who  has experience both running a state party and articulately advancing the conservative view on TV?

He never ran a state. Lt. Governor is a pathetic position.

Now Tim Kaine, he actually ran a state.

[cinyc]

Right now the MO is to not even mention it...


How long before people are discrediting him as a Republican Obama-mimic?

Most of America will see the Double Stuf' Steele choice by the RNC for what it is.

The correct choice of the right man for the job - one who  has experience both running a state party and articulately advancing the conservative view on TV?

He never ran a state. Lt. Governor is a pathetic position.

Now Tim Kaine, he actually ran a state.

Steele ran a state party, which is more germane to the job of RNC chairman than running a state.

[Scam of God]

I love the way that Republicans imagine themselves to be persecuted in society. Phil is the most typical example of this martyr-mindset, but this thread comes pretty damn close.

[Keystone Phil]

I love the way that Republicans imagine themselves to be persecuted in society. Phil is the most typical example of this martyr-mindset, but this thread comes pretty damn close.

LOL

Uh, ok. When can we get rid of this troll, by the way? He's persecuting me!

[Scam of God]

I love the way that Republicans imagine themselves to be persecuted in society. Phil is the most typical example of this martyr-mindset, but this thread comes pretty damn close.

LOL

Uh, ok. When can we get rid of this troll, by the way? He's persecuting me!

Do you dispute the fact that you, like so many other conservatives, whine about the media, whine about the intelligentsia, whine and piss and moan about the 'unfairness' of secularization, etc.? That instinct is there because it is the chief instinct of Christianity: a persecution complex writ large.

I'm just old enough to remember the days when it was the liberals who were stereotyped as 'whiners', while the conservatives were the 'manly men', politically speaking. But then, those were the days when liberalism was in retreat. Now the situation is quite the reverse, and so it is only natural that you ought to prostrate yourselves and bawl your eyes out. 

[Keystone Phil]

I love the way that Republicans imagine themselves to be persecuted in society. Phil is the most typical example of this martyr-mindset, but this thread comes pretty damn close.

LOL

Uh, ok. When can we get rid of this troll, by the way? He's persecuting me!

Do you dispute the fact that you, like so many other conservatives, whine about the media, whine about the intelligentsia, whine and piss and moan about the 'unfairness' of secularization, etc.? That instinct is there because it is the chief instinct of Christianity.

Actually, compared to most conservatives, I don't whine about the media or "intelligentsia." Yes, I guess I "whine and piss and moan" about unfair secularization but no more than you whine and piss and moan about religion in society.

The funny thing about me is that I can't stand elitism and the snobbish attitudes of some in academia yet I am criticized by the folksy types (Mike Naso) for being an urban elitist. I'm criticized for attacking the UN by some people and then I disappoint some of my friends on the right for strongly opposing the idea of the U.S. leaving the UN. I can't stand the European mindset on a lot of issues so I'm seen as a typical, backwards American by some and then I simply state my interest in European affairs and how much I enjoy visiting the continent and I'm treated as a European wannabe. I can't stand the condescending, arrogant attitude of many in academia so I'm labeled as ignorant yet when I go on to point out that they do have some fair points that we must assess, my fellow conservatives cringe at the idea that I might be defending evil socialists!

I really am a much more complex individual than many make me out to be. However, I expect you to simply who I am because that's part of your act.

[Scam of God]

I love the way that Republicans imagine themselves to be persecuted in society. Phil is the most typical example of this martyr-mindset, but this thread comes pretty damn close.

LOL

Uh, ok. When can we get rid of this troll, by the way? He's persecuting me!

Do you dispute the fact that you, like so many other conservatives, whine about the media, whine about the intelligentsia, whine and piss and moan about the 'unfairness' of secularization, etc.? That instinct is there because it is the chief instinct of Christianity.

Actually, compared to most conservatives, I don't whine about the media or "intelligentsia." Yes, I guess I "whine and piss and moan" about unfair secularization but no more than you whine and piss and moan about religion in society.

The funny thing about me is that I can't stand elitism and the snobbish attitudes of some in academia yet I am criticized by the folksy types (Mike Naso) for being an urban elitist.

You aren't really anti-elitist, because conservatism isn't really anti-elitist. It exists, in fact, to prop up the elite interests (corporate, religious, and otherwise) and guard their power against the democratizing effects of both left-wing and libertarian politics. What you are, however, is 'anti-elitist', a vague populist in the tradition of Sarah Palin, for that vague, folksy sort of populism is the only way conservative principles have ever been able to garner broad-backed support from the masses. It is all politics.

(For that matter, I most certainly am not anti-elitist, although I am anti-corporatist. There is a difference.)

[The Man From G.O.P.]

I love the way that Republicans imagine themselves to be persecuted in society. Phil is the most typical example of this martyr-mindset, but this thread comes pretty damn close.

LOL

Uh, ok. When can we get rid of this troll, by the way? He's persecuting me!

Do you dispute the fact that you, like so many other conservatives, whine about the media, whine about the intelligentsia, whine and piss and moan about the 'unfairness' of secularization, etc.? That instinct is there because it is the chief instinct of Christianity.

Actually, compared to most conservatives, I don't whine about the media or "intelligentsia." Yes, I guess I "whine and piss and moan" about unfair secularization but no more than you whine and piss and moan about religion in society.

The funny thing about me is that I can't stand elitism and the snobbish attitudes of some in academia yet I am criticized by the folksy types (Mike Naso) for being an urban elitist.

You aren't really anti-elitist, because conservatism isn't really anti-elitist. It exists, in fact, to prop up the elite interests (corporate, religious, and otherwise) and guard their power against the democratizing effects of both left-wing and libertarian politics. What you are, however, is 'anti-elitist', a vague populist in the tradition of Sarah Palin, for that vague, folksy sort of populism is the only way conservative principles have ever been able to garner broad-backed support from the masses. It is all politics.

(For that matter, I most certainly am not anti-elitist, although I am anti-corporatist. There is a difference.)

The only thing you are is truly, deeply, madly in love with yourself.

[Scam of God]

I love the way that Republicans imagine themselves to be persecuted in society. Phil is the most typical example of this martyr-mindset, but this thread comes pretty damn close.

LOL

Uh, ok. When can we get rid of this troll, by the way? He's persecuting me!

Do you dispute the fact that you, like so many other conservatives, whine about the media, whine about the intelligentsia, whine and piss and moan about the 'unfairness' of secularization, etc.? That instinct is there because it is the chief instinct of Christianity.

Actually, compared to most conservatives, I don't whine about the media or "intelligentsia." Yes, I guess I "whine and piss and moan" about unfair secularization but no more than you whine and piss and moan about religion in society.

The funny thing about me is that I can't stand elitism and the snobbish attitudes of some in academia yet I am criticized by the folksy types (Mike Naso) for being an urban elitist.

You aren't really anti-elitist, because conservatism isn't really anti-elitist. It exists, in fact, to prop up the elite interests (corporate, religious, and otherwise) and guard their power against the democratizing effects of both left-wing and libertarian politics. What you are, however, is 'anti-elitist', a vague populist in the tradition of Sarah Palin, for that vague, folksy sort of populism is the only way conservative principles have ever been able to garner broad-backed support from the masses. It is all politics.

(For that matter, I most certainly am not anti-elitist, although I am anti-corporatist. There is a difference.)

The only thing you are is truly, deeply, madly in love with yourself.

Do you actually dispute anything I've said?

Also: you act as if egoism is a bad thing. It is in fact the only thing driving America's economy.

[The Man From G.O.P.]

I love the way that Republicans imagine themselves to be persecuted in society. Phil is the most typical example of this martyr-mindset, but this thread comes pretty damn close.

LOL

Uh, ok. When can we get rid of this troll, by the way? He's persecuting me!

Do you dispute the fact that you, like so many other conservatives, whine about the media, whine about the intelligentsia, whine and piss and moan about the 'unfairness' of secularization, etc.? That instinct is there because it is the chief instinct of Christianity.

Actually, compared to most conservatives, I don't whine about the media or "intelligentsia." Yes, I guess I "whine and piss and moan" about unfair secularization but no more than you whine and piss and moan about religion in society.

The funny thing about me is that I can't stand elitism and the snobbish attitudes of some in academia yet I am criticized by the folksy types (Mike Naso) for being an urban elitist.

You aren't really anti-elitist, because conservatism isn't really anti-elitist. It exists, in fact, to prop up the elite interests (corporate, religious, and otherwise) and guard their power against the democratizing effects of both left-wing and libertarian politics. What you are, however, is 'anti-elitist', a vague populist in the tradition of Sarah Palin, for that vague, folksy sort of populism is the only way conservative principles have ever been able to garner broad-backed support from the masses. It is all politics.

(For that matter, I most certainly am not anti-elitist, although I am anti-corporatist. There is a difference.)

The only thing you are is truly, deeply, madly in love with yourself.

Do you actually dispute anything I've said?

Also: you act as if egoism is a bad thing. It is in fact the only thing driving America's economy.

Sorry, your Phelpsian approach to anything not between your ears means I don't have to satisfy you with a response.