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« on: January 25, 2009, 05:01:13 PM »

I'm sure you can find many examples of this during an ongoing war, but what about relatively peaceful times?

The only one I can think of off the top of my head right now would be Nicosia.

Jerusalem and Berlin also fit this description for pretty big chunks of the 20th century.

Are there any others?
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« Reply #1 on: January 25, 2009, 05:05:05 PM »

Niagara Falls, Sault Ste. Marie, Nogales
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« Reply #2 on: January 25, 2009, 05:11:47 PM »
« Edited: January 25, 2009, 05:13:54 PM by bgwah »

^ Eh, I'm not sure I would count those. Were they ever consider one city that ended up having an international border put through them, or are they just cities close to each other that happen have the same name? That's what Niagara Falls seems like to me. I'm not sure about Nogales.

Sault Ste. Marie might count, though.

Another possibility I just thought of is Rome, which is split between Italy and Vatican City.
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« Reply #3 on: January 25, 2009, 05:23:49 PM »

El Paso and Ciudad Juárez were split by the 1848 Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo that established the border between Mexico and the United States being defined by the Rio Grande.  But that was the result of a peace treaty
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« Reply #4 on: January 25, 2009, 05:26:27 PM »

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« Reply #5 on: January 25, 2009, 05:27:12 PM »

Here's a good list of split cities:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cross-border_town_naming
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« Reply #6 on: January 25, 2009, 05:32:44 PM »

Mainz; split between Rhineland-Pfalz and Hesse.

This may sound specious, but it isn't, really - though Kastel, Kostheim and Amöneburg have been formally part of Wiesbaden since 1945, ties to Mainz are much stronger than to downtown Wiesbaden, the train station is still called "Mainz-Kastel", and the city of Mainz, not the city of Wiesbaden owns most of the public land there. (Anything owned by the city of Wiesbaden was bought after 1945.) There even was a referendum on the issue of a return once. Though it was formally nonbinding, the government promised that if 50% of *registered* voters voted for a return to Mainz, we'd let them go. As ever, the result was "they want it but they don't want it enough"...


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« Reply #7 on: January 25, 2009, 05:41:47 PM »

Isn't there a city in Canada that's split between two provinces, but is actually a split city as opposed to just two cities on each end of the border with the same name? (Like Kansas City or Texarkana.) Like there's only one incorporated municipality, city government, etc.
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« Reply #8 on: January 25, 2009, 06:18:57 PM »

Lunar stole my answer.
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« Reply #9 on: January 25, 2009, 06:28:15 PM »

Isn't there a city in Canada that's split between two provinces, but is actually a split city as opposed to just two cities on each end of the border with the same name? (Like Kansas City or Texarkana.) Like there's only one incorporated municipality, city government, etc.

There's two actually,
Lloydminster (Alta/Sask) and Flin Flon (Sask/Man). Both have one municipal government.
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« Reply #10 on: January 26, 2009, 08:12:47 AM »

Baarle-Hertog between Holland and Belgium is one crazy split Smiley

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baarle-Hertog
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« Reply #11 on: January 26, 2009, 12:11:02 PM »

"The border is so complicated that there are some houses that are divided between the two countries. There was a time when according to Dutch laws restaurants had to close earlier. For some restaurants on the border it meant that the clients simply had to change their tables to the Belgian side."

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« Reply #12 on: January 26, 2009, 04:41:16 PM »
« Edited: January 26, 2009, 04:44:46 PM by Linus Van Pelt »

Derby Line, Vermont/Stanstead, Quebec. Here's the Canada-US border through the public library:


Canusa Avenue. Canada on the left, United States on the right. Tom Tancredo's nightmare!
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« Reply #13 on: January 26, 2009, 04:52:20 PM »

Canusa Avenue. Canada on the left, United States on the right. Tom Tancredo's nightmare!

Oh no, he's okay with them - they're white enough.
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« Reply #14 on: January 27, 2009, 08:14:37 AM »

I heard about that Quebec/Vermont border too in French class this year. Apparently it was all Quebec's turf and they built a town there, then stuff happened and half of it became US territory. I also heard the border splits the theater in half too, so you can be watching a movie on the American side or the Canadian side if you want.
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« Reply #15 on: January 27, 2009, 03:15:11 PM »

They're not really in different countries but Ottawa is in Ontario and Gatineau in Quebec and they're pretty much the same city.
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« Reply #16 on: January 28, 2009, 08:36:51 PM »


Ah, how did I forget about that one!
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