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Question: which was the more peaceful *transfer of power*?
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« on: January 20, 2009, 03:09:58 PM »

which was the more peaceful *transfer of power*?
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« Reply #1 on: January 20, 2009, 03:20:02 PM »

No state seceded because of Bush being elected.
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« Reply #2 on: January 20, 2009, 04:00:35 PM »

Is this meant to be serious?
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« Reply #3 on: January 20, 2009, 04:13:29 PM »

nobody threw eggs at Lincoln's chariot
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« Reply #4 on: January 20, 2009, 04:40:34 PM »

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« Reply #5 on: January 21, 2009, 11:10:27 AM »


Yeah, there was just some silly war instead.
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« Reply #6 on: January 21, 2009, 03:07:59 PM »


the war didn't directly challenge the transfer of power, and wasn't even initiated by the defeated/resistors
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« Reply #7 on: January 21, 2009, 03:48:20 PM »

I'm surprised there is no September 11, 1973 option Tweed?  You can't get any more peaceful transfers of power than that, at least on the South American front.
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« Reply #8 on: January 21, 2009, 07:53:40 PM »

there had to have been at least some form of physical coercion during the takeover of federal territory in the seceding states
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« Reply #9 on: January 21, 2009, 08:40:08 PM »


the war didn't directly challenge the transfer of power, and wasn't even initiated by the defeated/resistors

I'm sorry. Several states simply left the Union. Yawn.
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« Reply #10 on: January 21, 2009, 09:01:09 PM »

there had to have been at least some form of physical coercion during the takeover of federal territory in the seceding states

but there's a degree or two of separation between that and the actual federal transfer of power.
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« Reply #11 on: January 21, 2009, 09:04:02 PM »

Lincoln 1861, because Buchanan wanted to leave and Clinton wanted to stay for another 4 years.
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« Reply #12 on: January 21, 2009, 09:31:17 PM »

there had to have been at least some form of physical coercion during the takeover of federal territory in the seceding states

but there's a degree or two of separation between that and the actual federal transfer of power.

not really. Secession and ensuing takeover of federal territory (and the violence that went with it, such as the engagement between the Star of the West and South Carolina forces)  in the South was a direct result of Lincoln's election and occurred during the transition period.

"If any one attempts to haul down the American flag, shoot him on the spot"

- John Dix, Secretary of Treasury

So, unless you define a non-violent transfer as merely "no physical action taken against figures representing the incoming administration," it seems pretty difficult to argue 2001 in favor of 1860-1861.
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« Reply #13 on: January 22, 2009, 12:12:14 PM »


Only because he was brought in to DC under cover.
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