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Tender Branson
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« on: January 12, 2009, 11:34:17 AM »
« edited: January 12, 2009, 12:05:35 PM by Tender Branson »

In an early look at 2012, SurvyUSA has polled Obama vs. Romney and Obama vs. Palin in 15 states:

Obama vs. Romney:

Alabama: 42-50
California: 68-28
Iowa: 59-36
Kansas: 45-48
Kentucky: 43-49
Massachusetts: 66-25
Minnesota: 61-33
Missouri: 51-45
New Mexico: 61-31
New York: 72-22
Ohio: 55-37
Oregon: 51-42
Virginia: 54-41
Washington: 67-22
Wisconsin: 64-29

Obama vs. Palin:

Alabama: 30-58
California: 69-20
Iowa: 60-34
Kansas: 40-54
Kentucky: 38-55
Massachusetts: 72-20
Minnesota: 65-28
Missouri: 46-41
New Mexico: 67-21
New York: 78-14
Ohio: 61-32
Oregon: 50-44
Virginia: 48-47
Washington: 66-24
Wisconsin: 61-28

SurvyUSA also tested Obama vs. Michele Bachmann in the Minneapolis suburb county of Sherburne:

Obama - 82
Bachmann - 10
Lizard People - 2

http://www.surveyusa.com/50StateTracking.html
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« Reply #1 on: January 12, 2009, 11:49:41 AM »

What does Zobgy predict?
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« Reply #2 on: January 12, 2009, 11:56:30 AM »

How did you come up with the title of the thread? It doesn't look anything like Obama has any chance of facing a close race or losing with those numbers.
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« Reply #3 on: January 12, 2009, 12:04:05 PM »

How did you come up with the title of the thread? It doesn't look anything like Obama has any chance of facing a close race or losing with those numbers.

Fixed.
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« Reply #4 on: January 12, 2009, 12:09:05 PM »

Tender, these numbers are a fable.
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« Reply #5 on: January 12, 2009, 12:13:11 PM »

ROFL

Can we vote now, please?
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« Reply #6 on: January 12, 2009, 12:28:39 PM »

Obama vs. Palin:

Oregon: 50-44
Virginia: 48-47

WTF?
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« Reply #7 on: January 12, 2009, 12:34:47 PM »


I guess theres a big throbbing mob in these light-blue states.
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« Reply #8 on: January 12, 2009, 12:48:00 PM »

The gap between the Oregon and Washington polls may be the least believable thing in the history of ever.  Obama +45 vs. Romney in WA and +9 in OR?  Obama +42 vs. Palin in WA and +6 in OR?  Um, yeah
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« Reply #9 on: January 12, 2009, 01:03:30 PM »

There are a sh**t load of hicks in Oregon. Then again, there are a lot of 'em in Washington. Then again, Eastern Washington is beginning to modernize as Seattle fills up.
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« Reply #10 on: January 12, 2009, 01:10:30 PM »

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« Reply #11 on: January 12, 2009, 01:13:39 PM »

There are a sh**t load of hicks in Oregon. Then again, there are a lot of 'em in Washington. Then again, Eastern Washington is beginning to modernize as Seattle fills up.

Outside of a few spots in Okanogan and Chelan County, and around Snoqualmie Pass, there really isn't that much "Westernization" in Eastern Washington, in the "Seattle people moving East en masse" sense.  It's not exactly close enough in to be anything but vacationland/retirementworld.

Over 60% of Eastern Washington is in three counties (Benton, Spokane, Yakima).  "Hicks" maybe, but that doesn't really make sense; Obama won Oregon by 16 with "hicks" in full force.  They don't love Palin that much, and they aren't that numerous.

If Washington is going to swing 25 points to the Democrats, Oregon is going to swing 10 points to the Republicans?  It doesn't make any sense.
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« Reply #12 on: January 12, 2009, 01:25:07 PM »

Yes. That was a bit of a stretch. I'm just running through some remote possibilities. Could this just be a trash poll?
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« Reply #13 on: January 12, 2009, 01:45:50 PM »

Was anyone really expecting different results just week before the guy is sworn in?
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« Reply #14 on: January 12, 2009, 02:12:39 PM »

There are a sh**t load of hicks in Oregon. Then again, there are a lot of 'em in Washington. Then again, Eastern Washington is beginning to modernize as Seattle fills up.

Outside of a few spots in Okanogan and Chelan County, and around Snoqualmie Pass, there really isn't that much "Westernization" in Eastern Washington, in the "Seattle people moving East en masse" sense.  It's not exactly close enough in to be anything but vacationland/retirementworld.

Over 60% of Eastern Washington is in three counties (Benton, Spokane, Yakima).  "Hicks" maybe, but that doesn't really make sense; Obama won Oregon by 16 with "hicks" in full force.  They don't love Palin that much, and they aren't that numerous.

If Washington is going to swing 25 points to the Democrats, Oregon is going to swing 10 points to the Republicans?  It doesn't make any sense.

So Oregon is the 1-in-20.
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« Reply #15 on: January 12, 2009, 02:15:56 PM »

There are a sh**t load of hicks in Oregon. Then again, there are a lot of 'em in Washington. Then again, Eastern Washington is beginning to modernize as Seattle fills up.

Outside of a few spots in Okanogan and Chelan County, and around Snoqualmie Pass, there really isn't that much "Westernization" in Eastern Washington, in the "Seattle people moving East en masse" sense.  It's not exactly close enough in to be anything but vacationland/retirementworld.

Over 60% of Eastern Washington is in three counties (Benton, Spokane, Yakima).  "Hicks" maybe, but that doesn't really make sense; Obama won Oregon by 16 with "hicks" in full force.  They don't love Palin that much, and they aren't that numerous.

If Washington is going to swing 25 points to the Democrats, Oregon is going to swing 10 points to the Republicans?  It doesn't make any sense.

So Oregon is the 1-in-20.

The thing about 1-in-20s is that, it's not like 1-in-20 polls just randomly explodes like this.  The chance that a poll is off by like 20 points is much, much greater than 1-in-20.  I'm not saying it's statistically impossible but it's a result to be extremely skeptical of.
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« Reply #16 on: January 12, 2009, 02:28:15 PM »

I'd be willing to bet Portland was under-represented in that Oregon poll just as much that Montgomery was over-represented in Alabama in the Romney poll. Seriously, -8 in Alabama.
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« Reply #17 on: January 12, 2009, 02:47:46 PM »


it's a result to be extremely skeptical of.

Yes, it is.
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« Reply #18 on: January 12, 2009, 02:52:02 PM »

Its also useless to conduct a 2012 poll this soon.
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« Reply #19 on: January 12, 2009, 03:02:48 PM »

these poll numbers aren't on susa's site you clowns
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« Reply #20 on: January 12, 2009, 03:12:06 PM »

Haha, Kentucky. So racist.
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« Reply #21 on: January 12, 2009, 03:40:30 PM »

 Can I have a link to these polls please?
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« Reply #22 on: January 12, 2009, 04:53:57 PM »

Its also useless to conduct a 2012 poll this soon.

     Useless, but fun! Smiley
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« Reply #23 on: January 12, 2009, 04:56:22 PM »

I've never heard of SurvyUSA Tongue
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« Reply #24 on: January 12, 2009, 05:08:24 PM »


Well, if this is all just a weird unfunny set-up for the Bachmann joke at the bottom, they're all results to be skeptical of.  Tongue
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