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Akno21
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« on: March 23, 2005, 07:52:55 PM »
Is there a way to get scenerios other than 2004, 1992, 1980, and 1960, the ones that come with the original game?
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« Reply #1 on: March 25, 2005, 08:00:49 PM »
Playing as Harry vs. PBrunsel, Nation, and Hughento.



276-262 PB win. I gave myself and PB a very limited budget and gave Nation and Hugh huge amounts of cash

I needed 2,031 votes in Vermont, (where Nation was within 3,000 of winning) and 30,812 in New Hampshire (where Hugh beat me).

National results:

PB: 37%
Harry: 36%
Nation: 14%
Hugh: 11%
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« Reply #2 on: March 30, 2005, 10:17:38 AM »


I was playing as Edwards/Gephardt.

I won all the debates, and only lost the PV 46-45.
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« Reply #3 on: March 30, 2005, 10:57:05 AM »
Ha, Nussle won't win Maryland  Smiley

PB, is Nussle the guy who got millions of dollars for an indoor rainforest?
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Akno21
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« Reply #4 on: March 30, 2005, 01:54:33 PM »
Quote from: PBrunsel on March 30, 2005, 12:57:40 PM
Quote from: Akno21 on March 30, 2005, 10:57:05 AM
Ha, Nussle won't win Maryland  Smiley

PB, is Nussle the guy who got millions of dollars for an indoor rainforest?

That's Jim Leach. He is crazy sometimes.

He's a republican though, right?
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Akno21
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« Reply #5 on: March 30, 2005, 02:24:38 PM »
The 1972 game has a huge flaw, they confused DC with Washington state, so McGovern basically gets an extra 6 EV's.
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Akno21
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« Reply #6 on: March 30, 2005, 03:42:46 PM »
Playing as McGovern, lost 240-298
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« Reply #7 on: March 31, 2005, 09:51:09 AM »
How the hell can the same candidate get 49% in Maryland and 45% in Utah?
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Akno21
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« Reply #8 on: March 31, 2005, 10:57:03 AM »
Playing as Dukakis, lost 317-221. PV 49-47 Bush. Actually very close to winning, if IL, OH, and MD switch.



I'm getting doubts about PF being realistic.
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« Reply #9 on: March 31, 2005, 12:24:07 PM »
Quote from: Senator Colin Wixted on March 31, 2005, 11:17:31 AM
Quote from: Akno21 on March 31, 2005, 10:57:03 AM
Playing as Dukakis, lost 317-221. PV 49-47 Bush. Actually very close to winning, if IL, OH, and MD switch.

I'm getting doubts about PF being realistic.

The most unrealistic scenarios, in my mind, are the downloaded ones. Personally it seems that the scenarios that came with the game always give semi-accurate results while the scenarios made by random people are usually much further off. Could be because they over-estimated one candidate, or just didn't adjust everything to co-ordinate with the new scenario, or they just don't know much about election history.

Are there any that come with the game aside from 60, 80, 92, and 04? Maybe I have an outdated version.

It's not that bad outside of Texas and Louisiana, and the only reason I won Louisiana was that Duke got 6 percent there, which enabled me to sneak by by 1.5. I also focused a lot on Texas, but against a Texan, I shouldn't have won it.
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Akno21
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« Reply #10 on: March 31, 2005, 01:35:37 PM »
Quote from: Keystone Phil on March 31, 2005, 01:34:11 PM
Quote from: Akno21 on March 30, 2005, 01:54:33 PM
Quote from: PBrunsel on March 30, 2005, 12:57:40 PM
Quote from: Akno21 on March 30, 2005, 10:57:05 AM
Ha, Nussle won't win Maryland  Smiley

PB, is Nussle the guy who got millions of dollars for an indoor rainforest?

That's Jim Leach. He is crazy sometimes.

He's a republican though, right?

He's a RINO. A lot of politicos in PA will remember the indoor rainforest from a Pat Toomey for Senate ad, listing all the pork that Specter didn't stand up against. My favorite was the fruit fly research in France.

Did anyone stand up against it?
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Akno21
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« Reply #11 on: March 31, 2005, 02:42:40 PM »
I WON!

Playing as Al Gore, I beat George W. Bush 295-243. I won the PV 48-43, Nader got 7.



Best State:
Gore: New Jersey, 59.2
Bush: Idaho, 63.7
Nader: Vermont, 28.9
Browne: Montana, 3.6

Close:
West Virginia, .1
Minnesota, 0.6
Nevada, 1.3

Actually realistic.
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« Reply #12 on: March 31, 2005, 08:58:15 PM »
« Edited: April 01, 2005, 10:15:55 AM by Akno21 »
Playing as Mondale.

392-146 Reagan wins, he won the PV 55-44.



Question, which is more important to winning a debate, issue knowledge or debate skill?
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« Reply #13 on: April 01, 2005, 10:17:24 AM »
Quote from: Senator Gabu, PPT on April 01, 2005, 01:13:16 AM
The 1984 scenario is officially screwed up, as I was hit by a power 9 scandal in the last week of the campaign and lost every single state except for Minnesota, New York, and... uh...

...

Texas.

I won Texas playing as Dukakis against Bush I, it's not that odd, for President Forever.
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Akno21
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« Reply #14 on: April 01, 2005, 01:02:55 PM »
Quote from: Keystone Phil on April 01, 2005, 01:01:21 PM
Quote from: Akno21 on March 31, 2005, 01:35:37 PM
Quote from: Keystone Phil on March 31, 2005, 01:34:11 PM
Quote from: Akno21 on March 30, 2005, 01:54:33 PM
Quote from: PBrunsel on March 30, 2005, 12:57:40 PM
Quote from: Akno21 on March 30, 2005, 10:57:05 AM
Ha, Nussle won't win Maryland  Smiley

PB, is Nussle the guy who got millions of dollars for an indoor rainforest?

That's Jim Leach. He is crazy sometimes.

He's a republican though, right?

He's a RINO. A lot of politicos in PA will remember the indoor rainforest from a Pat Toomey for Senate ad, listing all the pork that Specter didn't stand up against. My favorite was the fruit fly research in France.

Did anyone stand up against it?

There are many fiscally conservative members of the House and Senate that stand up to it. Pat Toomey based a good amount of his Senate campaign against Specter on the pork issue.

Did Santorum?
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« Reply #15 on: April 02, 2005, 02:07:14 PM »


Lost 312-226, playing as Gore/Landreu vs. McCain/Ridge, 2000.

Lost PV 49-40-7. The 2000 scenerio makes Nader way too strong.
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Akno21
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« Reply #16 on: April 03, 2005, 06:14:20 PM »
A scandal on Gore got to 22 at one point, and that's why McCain won.
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« Reply #17 on: April 06, 2005, 07:56:07 PM »
SamSpade/Ebowed (me): 280
Andrew/John Ford: 258



It was a real nailbiter, only winning California 50.5-49.4, Colorado 50.5-49.4, Missouri 50.4-49.5, and I lost the PV 50-49. I got a late scandal on Andrew, that was what put me over the top.
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« Reply #18 on: April 11, 2005, 06:28:29 PM »
Playing as Mondale



451-87



313-225, giving me an extra 5%. Was pretty close toward the end, lost PV 53-46.
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« Reply #19 on: June 18, 2005, 04:35:16 PM »
1980, I'm Carter vs. Reagan vs. Anderson



Jimmy Carter/Walter Mondale: 306 Electoral Votes, 47%
Ronald Reagan/George Bush: 232 Electoral Votes, 44%
John Anderson/His VP: 0 Electoral Votes, 7%

Carter best non-DC state: West Virginia

Carter: 63%
Reagan: 36%
Anderson: 1%

Reagan best state: Utah

Reagan: 74%
Carter: 23%
Anderson: 3%

Anderson best state: Vermont

Reagan: 35%
Carter: 34%
Anderson: 31%

Closest State: Massachusetts

Carter: 39%
Reagan: 36%
Anderson: 25%
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« Reply #20 on: June 20, 2005, 07:21:30 PM »


Richard Nixon: 288 Electoral Votes, 48%
George McGovern: 250 Electoral Votes, 50%
John Schmitz: 0 Electoral Votes, 1%

I was very close in Washington, but outside of that I was about 4% away in South Carolina, Oregon, and Pennsylvania.

I actually got in the upper 50% in Tennessee, Kentucky, Michigan, West Virginia, and Maryland.
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« Reply #21 on: June 21, 2005, 10:38:02 AM »
Quote from: josh22 on June 21, 2005, 10:15:27 AM
Hey I have a Idea. Someone can run like 4 people form here and see what happens.  Like 1 dem 1 rep 1 populist and 1 lib...

I'll try that when I get a chance.

Conservative: PBrunsel/Keystone Phil
Libertarian: John Dibble/Alcon
Liberal: Ilikeverin/Akno
Populist: Al/Cosmo Kramer
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Akno21
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« Reply #22 on: June 22, 2005, 08:17:38 AM »
Quote from: Akno21 on June 21, 2005, 10:38:02 AM
Quote from: josh22 on June 21, 2005, 10:15:27 AM
Hey I have a Idea. Someone can run like 4 people form here and see what happens.  Like 1 dem 1 rep 1 populist and 1 lib...

I'll try that when I get a chance.

Conservative: PBrunsel/Keystone Phil
Libertarian: John Dibble/Alcon
Liberal: Ilikeverin/Akno
Populist: Al/Cosmo Kramer


How do you change party establishment?

I ran this election, and it didn't work how it was supposed to. Despite having almost twice as much money as the major parties, Al and Dibble got a combined 10%.

PB won 368-170 (I was playing as Verin, I usually get somewhere between 250 and 300 EV's, so it's fair), but Al was basically a huge thorn in ILV's side, costing him a lot of states. It was 47-40-8-2 in the PV.
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« Reply #23 on: June 22, 2005, 04:46:38 PM »
Thanks, Colin Smiley

I'll redo the election now, hopefully we'll get some better results.
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