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Akno21
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Re: President Forever results thread...
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Reply #75 on:
March 25, 2005, 08:00:49 PM »
Playing as Harry vs. PBrunsel, Nation, and Hughento.
276-262 PB win. I gave myself and PB a very limited budget and gave Nation and Hugh huge amounts of cash
I needed 2,031 votes in Vermont, (where Nation was within 3,000 of winning) and 30,812 in New Hampshire (where Hugh beat me).
National results:
PB: 37%
Harry: 36%
Nation: 14%
Hugh: 11%
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Jake
dubya2004
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Posts: 18,647
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E: -0.90, S: -0.35
Re: President Forever results thread...
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Reply #76 on:
March 25, 2005, 10:22:01 PM »
Kennedy v. Nixon v. Byrd-1960 Game Scenario
Kennedy 281 49%
Nixon 230 44%
Byrd 26 6%
I gave Byrd 1,500,000 and put dynamism on. Byrd got 2nd in AL and VA.
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Polkergeist
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Posts: 441
Biggest Choke
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Reply #77 on:
March 26, 2005, 02:01:39 AM »
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March 26, 2005, 02:19:45 AM
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Polkergeist »
I was playing the US+British Isles Scenario as Tony Blair against Colin Powell. He just has no stamina.....
2 days before
Blair 441 53%
Powell 100 41%
? 114 6%
then election night
Blair 291 50% (won popular vote by 1 million out of 131 million)
Powell 364 49%
This is what happens when you stick to barnstorming
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Old Europe
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Posts: 12,843
Re: President Forever results thread...
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Reply #78 on:
March 26, 2005, 05:29:53 AM »
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March 26, 2005, 12:20:24 PM
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Old Europe »
I´m through with the 70ies.
1972: McGovern loses D.C., but wins Mississippi and some other conservative states.
Richard Nixon
Popular Vote: 49%
Electoral Vote: 309
George McGovern
Popular Vote: 48%
Electoral Vote: 229
1976 with a rather 2000ish result (see Popular & Electoral Vote):
Gerald Ford
Popular Vote: 48%
Electoral Vote: 271
James Carter
Popular Vote: 49%
Electoral Vote: 267
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Old Europe
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Re: President Forever results thread...
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Reply #79 on:
March 26, 2005, 07:34:10 AM »
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March 26, 2005, 07:43:36 AM
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Old Europe »
And now the 80ies...
1980: Carter wins a second term by capturing the South and narrowly winning Reagan´s homestate (California results: Carter 42.9%, Reagan 42.8%, Anderson 7.4%, Clark 6.9%).
James Carter
Popular Vote: 47%
Electoral Vote: 297
Ronald Reagan
Popular Vote: 45%
Electoral Vote: 241
John Anderson
Popular Vote: 5%
Electoral Vote: 0
1984: Mondale gets humiliated by Reagan... but at least not so bad than in real history.
Ronald Reagan
Popular Vote: 53%
Electoral Vote: 405
Walter Mondale
Popular Vote: 44%
Electoral Vote: 133
1988: Dukakis defeats Bush.
Michael Dukakis
Popular Vote: 52%
Electoral Vote: 276
George H.W. Bush
Popular Vote: 46%
Electoral Vote: 262
I think I´ll take a break now...
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Old Europe
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Re: President Forever results thread...
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Reply #80 on:
March 26, 2005, 11:04:07 AM »
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March 26, 2005, 12:24:03 PM
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Old Europe »
After a President Forever marathon I´m finally through with all elections from 1960 to 2004.
1992: Bascially the same problem I had in 1968. Both major candidates leaked so many scandals that the third party candidate scores big, leading to no electoral majority. Elections was decided by Congress (in favor of Clinton).
William Clinton
Popular Vote: 41%
Electoral Vote: 256
George H.W. Bush
Popular Vote: 37%
Electoral Vote: 252
Ross Perot
Popular Vote: 19%
Electoral Vote: 30
1996: Clinton landslide.
Bill Clinton
Popular Vote: 51%
Electoral Vote: 393
Robert Dole
Popular Vote: 38%
Electoral Vote: 145
Ross Perot
Popular Vote: 8%
Electoral Vote: 0
2000: Gore landslide.
Albert Gore
Popular Vote: 54%
Electoral Vote: 396
George W. Bush
Popular Vote: 44%
Electoral Vote: 142
2004: Kerry landslide.
John Kerry
Popular Vote: 52%
Electoral Vote: 408
George W. Bush
Popular Vote: 41%
Electoral Vote: 130
Ralph Nader
Popular Vote: 4%
Electoral Vote: 0
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ilikeverin
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Re: President Forever results thread...
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Reply #81 on:
March 27, 2005, 07:57:09 PM »
Quote from: PBrunsel on March 23, 2005, 04:50:56 PM
Yes, I changed running mates just for the heck of it.
You rebel you
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nini2287
Concerned Citizen
Posts: 6,624
Political Matrix
E: 2.77, S: -3.39
Re: President Forever results thread...
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Reply #82 on:
March 28, 2005, 05:25:49 PM »
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March 29, 2005, 05:39:56 PM
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nini2287 »
Here's my results from the 2020 scenario:
Stephanie Herseth/Michael Garcia-32% 343 EV
J.C. Watts/Melissa Hart-29% 163 EV
Matt Gonzalez/John Eder-19% 25 EV (Washington, Oregon, Vermont and Maine)
Michael Badnarik/Diana Devot-17% 7 EV (Alaska and New Hampshire)
Arizona and Rhode Island should also be >20%.
The two closest states were Florida and North Carolina in which I won both by around 7,000 votes
I played the scenario again using Bob Casey (for some reason I started out 9 points behind in the polls
Melissa Hart/Adam Putnam-48% 279 EVs
Bob Casey Jr/Barack Obama-51% 259 EVs
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Akno21
Concerned Citizen
Posts: 9,078
Re: President Forever results thread...
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Reply #83 on:
March 30, 2005, 10:17:38 AM »
I was playing as Edwards/Gephardt.
I won all the debates, and only lost the PV 46-45.
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PBrunsel
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Reply #84 on:
March 30, 2005, 10:51:59 AM »
The resluts of a 2020 race between Governor Jim Nussle of Iowa and Senator Barack Obama with a throw in Michael Badnarik.
Jim Nussle/George P. Bush: 436
Barack Obama/Chelsea Clinton: 98
Michael Badnarik/Diana Devot: 4
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Akno21
Concerned Citizen
Posts: 9,078
Re: President Forever results thread...
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Reply #85 on:
March 30, 2005, 10:57:05 AM »
Ha, Nussle won't win Maryland
PB, is Nussle the guy who got millions of dollars for an indoor rainforest?
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Old Europe
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Re: President Forever results thread...
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Reply #86 on:
March 30, 2005, 12:07:04 PM »
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March 30, 2005, 01:02:38 PM
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Old Europe »
Am I such a brilliant player or is the 1972 scenario just so easy to win?
George McGovern
Popular Vote: 52%
Electoral Vote: 323
Richard Nixon
Popular Vote: 46%
Electoral Vote: 215
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PBrunsel
Concerned Citizen
Posts: 9,541
Re: President Forever results thread...
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Reply #87 on:
March 30, 2005, 12:57:40 PM »
Quote from: Akno21 on March 30, 2005, 10:57:05 AM
Ha, Nussle won't win Maryland
PB, is Nussle the guy who got millions of dollars for an indoor rainforest?
That's Jim Leach. He is crazy sometimes.
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Akno21
Concerned Citizen
Posts: 9,078
Re: President Forever results thread...
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Reply #88 on:
March 30, 2005, 01:54:33 PM »
Quote from: PBrunsel on March 30, 2005, 12:57:40 PM
Quote from: Akno21 on March 30, 2005, 10:57:05 AM
Ha, Nussle won't win Maryland
PB, is Nussle the guy who got millions of dollars for an indoor rainforest?
That's Jim Leach. He is crazy sometimes.
He's a republican though, right?
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Akno21
Concerned Citizen
Posts: 9,078
Re: President Forever results thread...
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Reply #89 on:
March 30, 2005, 02:24:38 PM »
The 1972 game has a huge flaw, they confused DC with Washington state, so McGovern basically gets an extra 6 EV's.
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Akno21
Concerned Citizen
Posts: 9,078
Re: President Forever results thread...
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Reply #90 on:
March 30, 2005, 03:42:46 PM »
Playing as McGovern, lost 240-298
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nini2287
Concerned Citizen
Posts: 6,624
Political Matrix
E: 2.77, S: -3.39
Re: President Forever results thread...
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Reply #91 on:
March 30, 2005, 06:03:51 PM »
Playing as Goldwater (the scenario gave me a lot of money)
Goldwater--58% 461 EVs
Johnson--41% 75 EVs
For whatever reason, DC wasn't included in this scenario.
My strategy was basically to use my money and bombard the entire nation with ads (all positive, except for my first one, which backfired in one day, but nevertheless hurt Johnson a lot).
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Colin
ColinW
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Posts: 11,692
Political Matrix
E: 3.87, S: -6.09
Re: President Forever results thread...
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Reply #92 on:
March 30, 2005, 08:57:48 PM »
Intresting Result.
George W. Bush vs. John Kerry vs. myself vs. Michael Badnarik with regionalism and dynamism turned off.
Kerry was it with a wave of big scandels, power 5-9, and I did well in debates against Bush, for some reason it had me, a third party candidate debating the President. I changed the how established party to 5 though.
Bush- 36% PV- 348 EVs
Kerry- 32% PV- 161 EVs
Wixted- 29% PV- 29 EVs
Badnarik- 1% PV- 0 EVs
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Colin
ColinW
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E: 3.87, S: -6.09
Re: President Forever results thread...
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Reply #93 on:
March 30, 2005, 10:38:05 PM »
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March 30, 2005, 10:48:18 PM
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Senator Colin Wixted »
I played this were every party was on an equal playing field. Each had a 5 in established and each had $100,000,000 in funds to begin with.
The match up was Bush vs. Kerry vs. Myself vs. Badnarik. Same as above in the settings. Huge scandel against Bush in the last week led to a huge rise in both my and Badnarik's vote. A small Kerry scandel in the last two weeks also hurt him.
Bush- 30% PV- 171 EVs
Kerry- 33% PV- 155 EVs
Wixted- 29% PV- 212 EVs
Badnarik- 6% PV- 0 EVs
Best States:
Bush: Idaho- 55.3%
Kerry- New York- 43.8%
Wixted- Vermont- 40.3%
Badnarik- Nevada- 18.5%
Worst State:
Bush: Rhode Island- 21.9%
Kerry: Idaho- 20.1%
Wixted: Nevada- 16.8%
Badnarik: Maryland- 0.0% (389)
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Gabu
Atlas Star
Posts: 28,403
Political Matrix
E: -4.32, S: -6.52
Re: President Forever results thread...
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Reply #94 on:
March 31, 2005, 04:52:01 AM »
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March 31, 2005, 04:55:02 AM
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Senator Gabu, PPT »
Dean (me) vs. Bush:
Bush: 283 EVs (50% PV)
Dean: 255 EVs (49% PV)
Weirdest #%^(ing map I ever saw. I won Florida and
Indiana
while losing Illinois and
New York
. I was also within 5 points of winning Kansas.
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jfern
Atlas Legend
Posts: 49,309
Political Matrix
E: -7.38, S: -8.36
Re: President Forever results thread...
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Reply #95 on:
March 31, 2005, 05:07:01 AM »
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March 31, 2005, 05:08:43 AM
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Quote from: Senator Gabu, PPT on March 31, 2005, 04:52:01 AM
Dean (me) vs. Bush:
Bush: 283 EVs (50% PV)
Dean: 255 EVs (49% PV)
Weirdest #%^(ing map I ever saw. I won Florida and
Indiana
while losing Illinois and
New York
. I was also within 5 points of winning Kansas.
Let me get this one straight. Howard Dean loses his solidly Democratic state of birth while landslide Missouri and winning Indiana?
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Old Europe
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Re: President Forever results thread...
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Reply #96 on:
March 31, 2005, 05:09:23 AM »
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March 31, 2005, 05:11:19 AM
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Old Europe »
Quote from: Akno21 on March 30, 2005, 02:24:38 PM
The 1972 game has a huge flaw, they confused DC with Washington state, so McGovern basically gets an extra 6 EV's.
I noticed this too. It isn´t such a problem when you´re playing with McGovern and both states/districts are yours in the end.
Of course, your EV number is messed up when you lose D.C., er, I mean Washington.
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Gabu
Atlas Star
Posts: 28,403
Political Matrix
E: -4.32, S: -6.52
Re: President Forever results thread...
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Reply #97 on:
March 31, 2005, 05:41:05 AM »
Quote from: jfern on March 31, 2005, 05:07:01 AM
Let me get this one straight. Howard Dean loses his solidly Democratic state of birth while landslide Missouri and winning Indiana?
Yep, pretty much.
Wasn't even close, either; Bush got 58.5% in New York and 56 something in Illinois.
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Gabu
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E: -4.32, S: -6.52
Re: President Forever results thread...
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Reply #98 on:
March 31, 2005, 05:56:47 AM »
Longley (myself) vs. Bush (vs. Nader vs. Badnarik):
Longley: 430 EVs (56% PV)
Bush: 108 EVs (37% PV)
Best states:
Longley: Massachussetts (70.9%)
Bush: Louisiana (59.0%)
Nader: Vermont (19.4%)
Badnarik: North Dakota (6.0%)
Worst states:
Longley: Alaska (28.5%)
Bush: Rhode Island (22.6%)
Nader: Georgia (1.0%)
Badnarik: New Jersey (0.0%)
Top three closest states:
1. Colorado (Longley wins, 47.4-47.3)
2. Maryland (Longley wins, 49.3-48.5)
3. Utah (Bush wins, 47.6-45.2)
Yeah, uh, I think my strategy kinda worked.
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FerrisBueller86
jhsu
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Posts: 506
Re: President Forever results thread...
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Reply #99 on:
March 31, 2005, 09:10:02 AM »
Why do these simulations give such strange results that we haven't seen in real life (except maybe for 1976)? If a few political junkies can do so well in unexpected places, why can't real presidential campaigns do so?
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