President Forever results thread...

[Akno21]

Playing as Harry vs. PBrunsel, Nation, and Hughento.



276-262 PB win. I gave myself and PB a very limited budget and gave Nation and Hugh huge amounts of cash

I needed 2,031 votes in Vermont, (where Nation was within 3,000 of winning) and 30,812 in New Hampshire (where Hugh beat me).

National results:

PB: 37%
Harry: 36%
Nation: 14%
Hugh: 11%

[Jake]

Kennedy v. Nixon v. Byrd-1960 Game Scenario



Kennedy 281 49%
Nixon      230 44%
Byrd          26   6%

I gave Byrd 1,500,000 and put dynamism on.  Byrd got 2nd in AL and VA.

[Polkergeist]

I was playing the US+British Isles Scenario as Tony Blair against Colin Powell. He just has no stamina.....

2 days before


Blair 441 53%
Powell 100 41%
?  114  6%

then election night



Blair 291 50% (won popular vote by 1 million out of 131 million)
Powell 364 49%

This is what happens when you stick to barnstorming

[It's morning again in America]

I´m through with the 70ies.




1972: McGovern loses D.C., but wins Mississippi and some other conservative states.



Richard Nixon
Popular Vote: 49%
Electoral Vote: 309

George McGovern
Popular Vote: 48%
Electoral Vote: 229




1976 with a rather 2000ish result (see Popular & Electoral Vote):



Gerald Ford
Popular Vote: 48%
Electoral Vote: 271

James Carter
Popular Vote: 49%
Electoral Vote: 267

[It's morning again in America]

And now the 80ies...




1980: Carter wins a second term by capturing the South and narrowly winning Reagan´s homestate (California results: Carter 42.9%, Reagan 42.8%, Anderson 7.4%, Clark 6.9%).



James Carter
Popular Vote: 47%
Electoral Vote: 297

Ronald Reagan
Popular Vote: 45%
Electoral Vote: 241

John Anderson
Popular Vote: 5%
Electoral Vote: 0




1984: Mondale gets humiliated by Reagan... but at least not so bad than in real history.



Ronald Reagan
Popular Vote: 53%
Electoral Vote: 405

Walter Mondale
Popular Vote: 44%
Electoral Vote: 133




1988: Dukakis defeats Bush.



Michael Dukakis
Popular Vote: 52%
Electoral Vote: 276

George H.W. Bush
Popular Vote: 46%
Electoral Vote: 262




I think I´ll take a break now...

[It's morning again in America]

After a President Forever marathon I´m finally through with all elections from 1960 to 2004.




1992: Bascially the same problem I had in 1968. Both major candidates leaked so many scandals that the third party candidate scores big, leading to no electoral majority. Elections was decided by Congress (in favor of Clinton).



William Clinton
Popular Vote: 41%
Electoral Vote: 256

George H.W. Bush
Popular Vote: 37%
Electoral Vote: 252

Ross Perot
Popular Vote: 19%
Electoral Vote: 30




1996: Clinton landslide.



Bill Clinton
Popular Vote: 51%
Electoral Vote: 393

Robert Dole
Popular Vote: 38%
Electoral Vote: 145

Ross Perot
Popular Vote: 8%
Electoral Vote: 0




2000: Gore landslide.



Albert Gore
Popular Vote: 54%
Electoral Vote: 396

George W. Bush
Popular Vote: 44%
Electoral Vote: 142




2004: Kerry landslide.



John Kerry
Popular Vote: 52%
Electoral Vote: 408

George W. Bush
Popular Vote: 41%
Electoral Vote: 130

Ralph Nader
Popular Vote: 4%
Electoral Vote: 0

[ilikeverin]

Yes, I changed running mates just for the heck of it.

You rebel you

[nini2287]

Here's my results from the 2020 scenario:



Stephanie Herseth/Michael Garcia-32% 343 EV
J.C. Watts/Melissa Hart-29% 163 EV
Matt Gonzalez/John Eder-19% 25 EV (Washington, Oregon, Vermont and Maine)
Michael Badnarik/Diana Devot-17% 7 EV (Alaska and New Hampshire)

Arizona and Rhode Island should also be >20%.

The two closest states were Florida and North Carolina in which I won both by around 7,000 votes


I played the scenario again using Bob Casey (for some reason I started out 9 points behind in the polls

Melissa Hart/Adam Putnam-48% 279 EVs
Bob Casey Jr/Barack Obama-51% 259 EVs

[Akno21]

I was playing as Edwards/Gephardt.

I won all the debates, and only lost the PV 46-45.

[PBrunsel]

The resluts of a 2020 race between Governor Jim Nussle of Iowa and Senator Barack Obama with a throw in Michael Badnarik.





Jim Nussle/George P. Bush: 436

Barack Obama/Chelsea Clinton: 98

Michael Badnarik/Diana Devot: 4

[Akno21]

Ha, Nussle won't win Maryland 

PB, is Nussle the guy who got millions of dollars for an indoor rainforest?

[It's morning again in America]

Am I such a brilliant player or is the 1972 scenario just so easy to win?



George McGovern
Popular Vote: 52%
Electoral Vote: 323

Richard Nixon
Popular Vote: 46%
Electoral Vote: 215

[PBrunsel]

Ha, Nussle won't win Maryland 

PB, is Nussle the guy who got millions of dollars for an indoor rainforest?

That's Jim Leach. He is crazy sometimes.

[Akno21]

Ha, Nussle won't win Maryland 

PB, is Nussle the guy who got millions of dollars for an indoor rainforest?

That's Jim Leach. He is crazy sometimes.

He's a republican though, right?

[Akno21]

The 1972 game has a huge flaw, they confused DC with Washington state, so McGovern basically gets an extra 6 EV's.

[Akno21]

Playing as McGovern, lost 240-298

[nini2287]

Playing as Goldwater (the scenario gave me a lot of money)



Goldwater--58% 461 EVs
Johnson--41%  75 EVs

For whatever reason, DC wasn't included in this scenario.

My strategy was basically to use my money and bombard the entire nation with ads (all positive, except for my first one, which backfired in one day, but nevertheless hurt Johnson a lot).

[Colin]

Intresting Result.

George W. Bush vs. John Kerry vs. myself vs. Michael Badnarik with regionalism and dynamism turned off.

Kerry was it with a wave of big scandels, power 5-9, and I did well in debates against Bush, for some reason it had me, a third party candidate debating the President. I changed the how established party to 5 though.



Bush- 36% PV- 348 EVs
Kerry- 32% PV- 161 EVs
Wixted- 29% PV- 29 EVs
Badnarik- 1% PV- 0 EVs

[Colin]

I played this were every party was on an equal playing field. Each had a 5 in established and each had $100,000,000 in funds to begin with.

The match up was Bush vs. Kerry vs. Myself vs. Badnarik. Same as above in the settings. Huge scandel against Bush in the last week led to a huge rise in both my and Badnarik's vote. A small Kerry scandel in the last two weeks also hurt him.




Bush- 30% PV- 171 EVs
Kerry- 33% PV- 155 EVs
Wixted- 29% PV- 212 EVs
Badnarik- 6% PV- 0 EVs

Best States:

Bush: Idaho- 55.3%
Kerry- New York- 43.8%
Wixted- Vermont- 40.3%
Badnarik- Nevada- 18.5%

Worst State:

Bush: Rhode Island- 21.9%
Kerry: Idaho- 20.1%
Wixted: Nevada- 16.8%
Badnarik: Maryland- 0.0% (389)

 

[Gabu]

Dean (me) vs. Bush:



Bush: 283 EVs (50% PV)
Dean: 255 EVs (49% PV)

Weirdest #%^(ing map I ever saw.  I won Florida and Indiana while losing Illinois and New York.  I was also within 5 points of winning Kansas.

[○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└]

Dean (me) vs. Bush:



Bush: 283 EVs (50% PV)
Dean: 255 EVs (49% PV)

Weirdest #%^(ing map I ever saw.  I won Florida and Indiana while losing Illinois and New York.  I was also within 5 points of winning Kansas.

Let me get this one straight. Howard Dean loses his solidly Democratic state of birth while landslide Missouri and winning Indiana?

[It's morning again in America]

The 1972 game has a huge flaw, they confused DC with Washington state, so McGovern basically gets an extra 6 EV's.

I noticed this too. It isn´t such a problem when you´re playing with McGovern and both states/districts are yours in the end.

Of course, your EV number is messed up when you lose D.C., er, I mean Washington.

[Gabu]

Let me get this one straight. Howard Dean loses his solidly Democratic state of birth while landslide Missouri and winning Indiana?

Yep, pretty much.

Wasn't even close, either; Bush got 58.5% in New York and 56 something in Illinois.

[Gabu]

Longley (myself) vs. Bush (vs. Nader vs. Badnarik):



Longley: 430 EVs (56% PV)
Bush: 108 EVs (37% PV)

Best states:

Longley: Massachussetts (70.9%)
Bush: Louisiana (59.0%)
Nader: Vermont (19.4%)
Badnarik: North Dakota (6.0%)

Worst states:

Longley: Alaska (28.5%)
Bush: Rhode Island (22.6%)
Nader: Georgia (1.0%)
Badnarik: New Jersey (0.0%)

Top three closest states:

1. Colorado (Longley wins, 47.4-47.3)
2. Maryland (Longley wins, 49.3-48.5)
3. Utah (Bush wins, 47.6-45.2)

Yeah, uh, I think my strategy kinda worked.

[FerrisBueller86]

Why do these simulations give such strange results that we haven't seen in real life (except maybe for 1976)?  If a few political junkies can do so well in unexpected places, why can't real presidential campaigns do so?