President Forever results thread...

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I narrowly lost both Texas and Florida by narrow margins.

You're kidding.

Hey on Election Night, I was both leading Texas and Florida when about 50% of the vote was counted.

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I just got the game! W00t!

I take it you got President Forever + Primaries. You can actually download 1992 and 2000 scenarios to add upon the default 2008 one. Not to mention a 1976 and a 1968 one. Hope you enjoy.

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Colin's right you cannot beat old school President Forever, you can run all your ads with just 2 days to go and your right back in the race, even if you haven't run any ads for the whole campaign. It's easier to create candidates in the original then the newer one.

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I just the Intellectual President 2008 scenario. I turned off the Republican and Democrats and played as Noam Chomsky (Green) against Pat Buchanan (Independent). As per usual I didn't run my commercials until the last 2 weeks of the campaign. Just when I started to gain momentum, a level 13 scandal hit the campaign and lasted until Election Day. On Election Day this is how they predicted it would turn out like:

Pat Buchanan/Lyndon LaRouche (I): 225 EV, 47% of the PV (-2)
Noam Chomsky/Howard Zinn (G): 137 EV, 44% of the PV (+1)
Undecided (U): 176 EV, 6% of the PV (+1)

The Tossup states on Election Day were the following:

• Washington - 11 Electoral Votes (Lean Chomsky)
  
• Oregon - 7 Electoral Vote (Lean Chomsky)
  
• Minnesota - 10 Electoral Votes (Lean Chomsky)
  
• Michigan - 17 Electoral Votes (Lean Chomsky)
  
• Pennsylvania - 21 Electoral Votes (Lean Chomsky)
  
• West Virginia - 5 Electoral Votes (Lean Chomsky)
  
• New Hampshire - 4 Electoral Votes (Lean Chomsky)
  
• Connecticut - 7 Electoral Votes (Lean Chomsky)
  
• New Mexico - 5 Electoral Votes (Lean Chomsky)
  
• Arizona - 10 Electoral Votes (Lean Buchanan)
  
• Illinois - 21 Electoral Votes (Lean Buchanan)
  
• Georgia - 15 Electoral Votes (Lean Buchanan)
  
• Florida - 27 Electoral Votes (Lean Buchanan)
  
• Louisiana - 9 Electoral Votes (Lean Buchanan)
  
• Maine - 4 Electoral Votes (Lean Buchanan)
  
• Delaware - 3 Electoral Votes (Lean Buchanan)
  
  Like many had predicted, Pat J. Buchanan was elected 44th President of the United States defeating Noam Chomsky. Like the 2000 Presidential Election, Chomsky won the Popular Vote 50-49% but lost in the Electoral College. It always happens to me . Anywho here's the results:
  
  
  
  
  
  Pat J. Buchanan/Lyndon LaRouche (I): 286 EV, 49% of the PV (72,060,201)
  Noam Chomsky/Howard Zinn (G): 252 EV, 50% of the PV (74,708,030)

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Obama/Blanco: 527 EVs, 61%
Huckabee/Martinez: 11 EVs, 38%

the congressional districts are guesses, but Huckabee was only up by 2% in Nebraska.

Speaking of Huckabee vs. Obama in President Forever, once I won as Obama with about 500 odd EV's and 71% of the popular vote. Huckaboomed ended up with about 30 EV's or less an 29% of the popular vote. Quite enjoyable really .

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2000: Lamar Alexander vs. Al Gore

Alexander 290 EV
53,281,214 / 45.3% PV

Gore 248 EV
56,510,026 / 48% PV

Nader 0EV
7,926,545 / 6.7% PV

I had to pump Alexander's stats just a bit because the default character has all-centrist positions and gets 0% in every state in the primary. (i.e. lazy coders)

I took Bush, McCain, and Dole out of the primary and ran him vs. Forbes, Kasich, Quayle, and Bauer.

LA won the Electoral Vote, but lost the popular vote by almost 3%  Lots of states went for LA by very small margins, and Nader's vote was high - highest was 18.6% in MT.

That's President Forever + Primaries for you, weird results. I've had many of games turn out like that before.

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I ran as Badnarik and also ran as Bayh, Gore, Warner, Frist and Allen in the primaries. With exactly a year left, all 5 dropped out and endorsed Badnarik (of course I had them all be with the same platform: social liberal/fiscal conservative with many moderate planks on both sides). All candidates were winning their states before they dropped out. This is still with the demo (yoohoo, I'm finally getting the real game now!)

Final Results (before the game ended)

Giuliani 33.7%/260 EV
Clinton 26.8%/110 EV
Badnarik 17.4%/96 EV
Undecided 22.2%/72 EV

Add up the EV where the states are too close to call:

Giuliani 282 EV
Clinton 160 EV
Badnarik 96 EV

I won SD, TX, TN, VA, WV, NC, AL & MS. Here's the map:

I almost came close to winning 100 EV.

How the HELL did that happen? DId you give Badnairk $999,000,000 dollars?

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Speaking of creating yourself in President Forever + Primaries, that's exactly what I have done in the last couple of days. I created myself Senator Conor Flynn (R-ME). I'm a moderate Senator of course . I usually start off last in the polls but I start to gain my momentum in late December. In my two games running as myself, I usually win New Hampshire and win most of the Northeast and Western primaries and along the way surprisingly get the endorsements of Mike Huckabee and Sam Brownback. Then it's usually just me and Mitt fighting for the nomination, eventhough I've already got a guaranteed amount of Delegate votes. When it comes to the General Election it's usually me against Barack. But I do really bad against him, once I even lost most of the South and thus the Election. What's even weirder is that former President Carter endorsed me likewise with Bill Ritter and Barack got the endorsement of all the right-wing institutes and President Bush!

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I beat Thompson 55-45 in the PV and 361-177 in the EV.

Could you post a map next time? I'm always interested in other peoples campaigns in P4E.

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I beat Thompson 403-135 in the EC, and won the PV 56.8-43.2.  I lost Kansas by 900 votes, and lost Georgia by 1,379.

But you didn't flip WV or VA? Odd.

That's the magical essence of President Forever + Primaries for you. Take a look at my Jackson vs. Reagan map from when I was playing the 1976 scenario. Now that's weird and President Forever + Primaries for you.

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I just played as Orville Faubus for kicks in 1960 (he got 0.07% of the vote in real life) and got this:

I got 16% of the vote, good for 15 EVs, and thus spoiling the election for Nixon, who only managed to get 267 EVs and then Congress voted for Kennedy.

Speaking of Faubus, once I managed to get 243 Electoral Votes as him! But of course the United States Congress voted for Senator Kennedy, who only received about 90 Electoral Votes.

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Speaking of Faubus, once I managed to get 243 Electoral Votes as him! But of course the United States Congress voted for Senator Kennedy, who only received about 90 Electoral Votes.

How on Earth did you manage that?

I honestly cannot remember Gabu, it was such a long time ago.

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I took a page of Xahar’s book and played as Debs:

Roosevelt: 27% PV, 234 EV
Debs: 21% PV, 141 EV
Wilson: 26% PV, 133 EV
Taft: 23% PV, 23 EV

Congress elected Wilson, even tough he came in second in the PV and third in the EV, sorry Xahar

How on Earth did Taft win Alabama. In the early 20th century

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1992 - Clinton vs. Bush vs. Perot vs. Buchanan (me)

Yellow = Buchanan Red = Clinton Blue = Bush

I HATE YOU!!!

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1968 - Humphrey vs. Nixon vs. Wallace (me)

Wallace: 517 EVs - 56% PV
Nixon: 19 EVs - 23% PV
Humphrey: 3 EVs - 20% PV

lol

How much money did you give George Wallace Gabu? $999,000,000 dollars? I just realised that Wallace won DC! LOL .

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One of the weirdest results ever:

Kerry: 50% PV, 269 EV
Bush: 50% PV, 269 EV
The House elected Bush

That is weird. What was the margin in MA Ben?

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1956: Manchurian Candidate

I ran as Senator Jordan Lyman of Kansas (the Democratic candidate) against Senator John Iselin (the Republican candidate). As always, I didn't run a single add until the final week of the campaign. This is how it looked like going into Election Night '56:

Sen. John Iselin (R): 393 EV, 51%
Sen. Jordan Lyman (D): 99 EV, 41%
Tossup/Undecided (O): 39 EV, 4%

And here's how I rebounded and almost won the Presidency of the United States as Senator Jordan Lyman!

Sen. John Iselin (R): 298 EV, 50% (39,616,126)
Sen. Jordan Lyman (D): 233 EV, 49% (38,594,138)

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1988:

Bush: 50% PV, 278 EV
Dukakis: 49% PV, 260 EV

What happened to New Mexico? Did they somehow gain independence from the United States or join Mexico?

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1988:

Bush: 50% PV, 278 EV
Dukakis: 49% PV, 260 EV

What happened to New Mexico? Did they somehow gain independence from the United States or join Mexico?

Maybe I deleted it by mistake.

How did New Mexico vote in this election anyway?

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I lost so bad to Brownback im too ashamed to put up a map and totals haha.

You think that's bad. Once I ran as Howard Dean, the Mo was going for me with about 4 weeks left. I somehow manage to waste 74,000,000 million dollars in 2 weeks and my campaign collapsed. I ended up with 3 EV (DC) and about 42% of the vote.

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I lost so bad to Brownback im too ashamed to put up a map and totals haha.

You think that's bad. Once I ran as Howard Dean, the Mo was going for me with about 4 weeks left. I somehow manage to waste 74,000,000 million dollars in 2 weeks and my campaign collapsed. I ended up with 3 EV (DC) and about 42% of the vote.

I won the popular vote, but lost the electoral college ridiculously. I lost Wisconsin, Minnesota, Oregon, and Michigan...just to name a few big ones :/

Again that's happened to me before. I ran as David Palmer against Bill Pullman's character in Independence Day. I won 50% to his 49% and only carried 112 EV's. Though half the country was decided by less than 2 points. Which is kinda odd.

BTW: I just played New Jersey 2005 as the Republican Mayor Forrester against Jon Corzine and this is how I went:



I managed to get 65 percent + in some areas around Hunterdon County.

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I just played a 2010 California Gubernatorial Election scenario as Condoleeza Rice against Mayors Villaraigosa and McLaughlin. I didn't run my ad's until the final couple of weeks of the campaign and I had a solid lead in the polls and was set to win the Governorship. And then this is what happened:



I won the popular vote by 10.8% and lost the Governorship thanks to Los Angeles by 4%. During the course of election night, Rice was leading Villaraigosa by 5 points then that slipped away.

If you want to download this scenario here's the Link

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I can't get that scenario to work. When I try to play it, it gives an error.

What sort of Error came up? It worked perfectly fine for me.

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I just played a new 2012 President Obama scenario as President Obama of course. I played off against Governor Tim Pawlenty in the General (I skipped the Primaries). It was an interesting election. At one stage Pawlenty had a massive lead until I managed to pull it back with surprising results.

No candidate won a state with 40% or 60%, it was any margin in the 50's. Except D.C of course . Here's the results:

Barack Obama/Joe Biden (D): 343 EV, 50.4% of the PV (59,826,877)
Tim Pawlenty/Chuck Hagel (R): 195 EV, 49.6% of the PV (58,937,808)

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Lol @ Illinois. Stupid game.

You think that's funny, I was playing as Obama against Pawlenty and for most of the night, Pawlenty was leading in MA. Then Obama came from behind and won MA by 2 points

BTW: Here's another interesting result I got when I played the 2010 - California Gubernatorial Election scenario:



The Californian House elected Attorney-General Brown. Even though I won the Popular Vote