New York Gubernatorial election 2010 Giuliani vs Paterson

[Lincoln Republican]

In the 2010 New York Gubernatorial election

Incumbent Governor David Paterson is the Democratic nominee.

Former NYC Mayor Rudy Giuliani is the Republican nominee.

Who wins?

Please discuss.

[Franzl]

I don't think Giuliani would have any chance, to be honest, but I don't know much about NY politics. I think the incumbent is quite popularly, isn't he? Especially considering Giuliani's failed run for the White House, I imagine he might have become somewhat unpopular at home in New York. Just my impression though.

[Lunar]

Giuliani shifted too far to the right during the primaries.

He'd need a perfect storm.

[Holmes]

I guess Guiliani or any GOP candidate can attack Paterson's friendliness to the gay community to get their "base" out, but otherwise...

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

Giuliani shifted too far to the right during the primaries.

He'd need a perfect storm.

How did he shift right other than favoring a marriage amendment when "too many states passed gay marriage laws?"

He ran on a pro-immigration, pro-choice, pro-gun law platform. Sure he was extremely hawkish, but that isn't new.

[Governor PiT]

Do you think Bloomberg might run?

[Lunar]

Giuliani shifted too far to the right during the primaries.

He'd need a perfect storm.

How did he shift right other than favoring a marriage amendment when "too many states passed gay marriage laws?"

He ran on a pro-immigration, pro-choice, pro-gun law platform. Sure he was extremely hawkish, but that isn't new.

Well, he constantly trashed Obama and strongly associated himself with the national GOP brand.  But fair enough, I guess I didn't follow him closely enough.

[Lincoln Republican]

Do you think Bloomberg might run?

I highly doubt it.

Obviously, Bloomberg wants another term as Mayor, therefore had city council change the  term limit law, in order to satisfy his insatiable ego.

[Eraserhead]

Paterson wins easily. He'd get a nice chunk of the Republican vote too since he's basically a Republican.

[Holmes]

Paterson wins easily. He'd get a nice chunk of the Republican vote too since he's basically a Republican.

Not socially.

[Verily]

Giuliani would have no chance. He's hardly more popular than Generic Republican in New York City any more, except on Staten Island. And being the former mayor of New York City makes it automatically impossible for him to do better than Generic Republican upstate. So the best he could get statewide is about 45% (by improving the Republican margins in Staten Island and putting on a strong showing elsewhere in suburban NYC: win Rockland, maybe Nassau, maybe Suffolk, do better-than-average in Westchester).

Bloomberg probably will not run now that he will be running for reelection as mayor next year. If he wins, he's be less than a year into his term, and, if he loses, he'd stand little chance at the governorship (because, presumably, removing term limits would have tainted his reputation--not that I think this is likely: it isn't).

[Filuwaúrdjan]

Giuliani shifted too far to the right during the primaries.

Hah. He was out there already.

[justfollowingtheelections]

As a New Yorker I can tell you that Giuliani is still very much respected in NYC.  There was no way he would have won NY in the presidential elections if he was the nominee, but he can easily compete with Democrats when it comes to local politics.  Being from NYC will probably hurt him upstate though.  Paterson is also quite likable and I think he would have an advantage if he ran again.  A lot will depend however on who he picks to replace Hilary.

As for attacking him on his position on social issues: Come on guys, this is NY, we're very liberal on social issues.

[Eraserhead]

Paterson wins easily. He'd get a nice chunk of the Republican vote too since he's basically a Republican.

Not socially.

Social issues matter little to most New Yorkers right now, unfortunately.

Besides that, many of our Republicans are fairly moderate on social issues.

[paul718]

Do you think Bloomberg might run?

I highly doubt it.

Obviously, Bloomberg wants another term as Mayor, therefore had city council change the  term limit law, in order to satisfy his insatiable ego.

Bloomy has no desire to be governor.  And I don't think ego has anything to do with it (for the record, he's not even a quarter of the media hound Rudy was/is).  He just didn't want to leave office with the city headed toward the tank, and there isn't much argument against him being the guy to keep us out of it. 

Last year there were rumors of Police Commissioner Ray Kelly running for mayor.  That obviously isn't gonna happen, so maybe now I'll start a Kelly for Governor recruitment effort .  He's probably the only Republican (assuming he is one) who could win anything statewide or NYC-wide.

[Keystone Phil]

Giuliani shifted too far to the right during the primaries.

Hah. He was out there already.

Certainly not on social issues.

[dmet41]

Giuliani has a shot. He is still popular in NY and there was just a poll out that had Patterson ahead only 49-43. Giuliani deff has a chance to capitalize on the chaos taking over Albany. The budget is messed up, even more so than usual, there is a general fiscal crisis, the state senate is turning into a circus, and Patterson has to appoint Hillary's appointment and whomever he appoints it will make him more enemies than friends...

[YRABNNRM]

Draft McCall.

[Keystone Phil]

Draft McCall.

Of course!

[Хahar 🤔]

Giuliani LOL.

[RIP Robert H Bork]

Paterson wins, Giuliani is a joke.

[○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└]

Giuliani showed how far-right he is these last 2 years. Easy Paterson victory. Paterson probably has more to worry about in the primary than the general, anyways.

[Ronnie]

Giuliani showed how far-right he is these last 2 years. Easy Paterson victory. Paterson probably has more to worry about in the primary than the general, anyways.

In other words, everyone to the right of Ben Nelson is "far right".  Give me a break.

[Хahar 🤔]

Giuliani showed how far-right he is these last 2 years. Easy Paterson victory. Paterson probably has more to worry about in the primary than the general, anyways.

In other words, everyone to the right of Ben Nelson is "far right".  Give me a break.

Heard what he said about freedom?

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

Paterson just needs to put together ads with clips of Giuliani speaking at the 2004 and 2008 RNCs. Game over.