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« Reply #700 on: December 18, 2008, 06:09:49 PM »

Nate Silver has it at Coleman +1 if anyone cares.  But it assumes that the current rates of pick-up continue.
The hilarity be unparalled no matter who wins if it is a one vote race
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« Reply #701 on: December 18, 2008, 06:15:34 PM »

It's down to 5.
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« Reply #702 on: December 18, 2008, 06:18:36 PM »

Nate Silver has it at Coleman +1 if anyone cares.  But it assumes that the current rates of pick-up continue.
The hilarity be unparalled no matter who wins if it is a one vote race

I'm rooting for an exact tie.

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« Reply #703 on: December 18, 2008, 06:22:56 PM »
« Edited: December 18, 2008, 06:25:11 PM by Aizen »

Let the snow fields of Minnesota be stained crimson with Coleman's blood. This is the point where he gets washed clean from history's weave.
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« Reply #704 on: December 18, 2008, 06:28:48 PM »

Coleman Intrade down to 21.0






he's smoked out in the back of the van, says he's held up with holding on and on and on...
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« Reply #705 on: December 18, 2008, 06:56:22 PM »

This is amazing.
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« Reply #706 on: December 18, 2008, 06:57:18 PM »

If Franken wins, this will be the greatest example of election stealing in American history.  Republicans should play this up for years
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« Reply #707 on: December 18, 2008, 06:59:38 PM »

If Franken wins, this will be the greatest example of election stealing in American history.  Republicans should play this up for years
O rly?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election,_1876
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« Reply #708 on: December 18, 2008, 07:00:37 PM »

If Franken wins, this will be the greatest example of election stealing in American history.  Republicans should play this up for years be impressed and take notes

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« Reply #709 on: December 18, 2008, 07:16:10 PM »

http://www.startribune.com/politics/national/senate/36406524.html?elr=KArksLckD8EQDUoaEyqyP4O:DW3ckUiD3aPc:_Yyc:aUac8HEaDiaMDCinchO7DU

Minnesota Supremes rule against Coleman
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« Reply #710 on: December 18, 2008, 07:18:56 PM »


It's over.
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« Reply #711 on: December 18, 2008, 07:37:44 PM »

Just saw on MSNBC that Coleman is up by 2 votes, contrary to the Star Tribune's count.
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« Reply #712 on: December 18, 2008, 07:38:07 PM »

If Franken wins, this will be the greatest example of election stealing in American history.  Republicans should play this up for years

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election,_2000
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« Reply #713 on: December 18, 2008, 07:45:01 PM »

If Franken wins, this will be the greatest example of election stealing in American history.  Republicans should play this up for years
O rly?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election,_1876
I don't really consider that election "stolen".  That election was given away as part of a compromise, most likely if vote counting continued Tilden would have won.

And for those who say 2000, I'd love to see the point where Al Gore lead by 800 votes as Coleman did
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« Reply #714 on: December 18, 2008, 07:46:22 PM »

If Franken wins, this will be the greatest example of election stealing in American history.  Republicans should play this up for years
O rly?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election,_1876
I don't really consider that election "stolen".  That election was given away as part of a compromise, most likely if vote counting continued Tilden would have won.

And for those who say 2000, I'd love to see the point where Al Gore lead by 800 votes as Coleman did

I fail to see how counting absentee ballots amounts to a stolen election. Is counting all the votes a bad thing now?
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« Reply #715 on: December 18, 2008, 07:47:15 PM »

If Franken wins, this will be the greatest example of election stealing in American history.  Republicans should play this up for years
O rly?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election,_1876
I don't really consider that election "stolen".  That election was given away as part of a compromise, most likely if vote counting continued Tilden would have won.

And for those who say 2000, I'd love to see the point where Al Gore lead by 800 votes as Coleman did

I fail to see how counting absentee ballots amounts to a stolen election. Is counting all the votes a bad thing now?
It has nothing to do with that its incidents like the 100 ballots they happened to find for Franken
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« Reply #716 on: December 18, 2008, 08:05:58 PM »

If Franken wins, this will be the greatest example of election stealing in American history.  Republicans should play this up for years
O rly?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election,_1876
I don't really consider that election "stolen".  That election was given away as part of a compromise, most likely if vote counting continued Tilden would have won.

And for those who say 2000, I'd love to see the point where Al Gore lead by 800 votes as Coleman did

I fail to see how counting absentee ballots amounts to a stolen election. Is counting all the votes a bad thing now?
It has nothing to do with that its incidents like the 100 ballots they happened to find for Franken

Do you have some ''insider info'' regarding that situation that the rest of us haven't heard about?
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« Reply #717 on: December 18, 2008, 08:06:31 PM »

It wasn't 100 found ballots. It was a tabulating error in a town that resulted in Franken being undercounted by 100 votes that was corrected.
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« Reply #718 on: December 18, 2008, 08:08:03 PM »

Let the snow fields of Minnesota be stained crimson with Coleman's blood. This is the point where he gets washed clean from history's weave.


You really are a gem, Aizen.
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« Reply #719 on: December 18, 2008, 08:42:55 PM »

This article argues that the ruling could help Coleman.

http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/minnesota-supreme-court-sides-with-coleman-2008-12-18.html

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« Reply #720 on: December 18, 2008, 08:49:06 PM »
« Edited: December 18, 2008, 08:53:49 PM by Verily »

If Franken wins, this will be the greatest example of election stealing in American history.  Republicans should play this up for years
O rly?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election,_1876
I don't really consider that election "stolen".  That election was given away as part of a compromise, most likely if vote counting continued Tilden would have won.

And for those who say 2000, I'd love to see the point where Al Gore lead by 800 votes as Coleman did

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alabama_gubernatorial_election,_2002
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« Reply #721 on: December 18, 2008, 08:57:50 PM »

Insane.  All each party has to do is look at the county and refuse to accept any absentees from a county that favors the other side.

http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2008/12/in-minnesota-six-inches-of-confusion.html

1. The counties are prohibited from sorting through or counting any rejected absentee ballots on their own, or under the recommendations of the state's Canvassing Board;

2. Instead, the two candidates, the Secretary of State, and the county auditors and canvassing boards should implement a process for identifying and counting wrongfully rejected absentee ballots. But -- and here's the kicker -- both of the candidates and the local elections officials must mutually agree that any given absentee ballot has been rejected in error. If such a consensus emerges about a particular ballot, it will be opened, counted, and the revised results will be forwarded to the state's Canvassing Board.

The Court further requires that this process be completed by 4 PM on December 31st. Nothing in the ruling, however, would appear to preclude either campaign from challenging the results of the election at a later date.

The process established by the Supreme Court is likely to be contentious and cumbersome. The sheer number of parties it involves in the process, when coupled with the lack of guidance it provides to them, creates an environment in which fatigue and partisanship are likely to prevail over Minnesota Nice. The most burdensome part of the process, of course, is the requirement that each individual ballot must be mutually agreed upon to have been rejected in error before it is opened and counted.
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« Reply #722 on: December 18, 2008, 09:22:54 PM »

Insane.  All each party has to do is look at the county and refuse to accept any absentees from a county that favors the other side.

http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2008/12/in-minnesota-six-inches-of-confusion.html

1. The counties are prohibited from sorting through or counting any rejected absentee ballots on their own, or under the recommendations of the state's Canvassing Board;

2. Instead, the two candidates, the Secretary of State, and the county auditors and canvassing boards should implement a process for identifying and counting wrongfully rejected absentee ballots. But -- and here's the kicker -- both of the candidates and the local elections officials must mutually agree that any given absentee ballot has been rejected in error. If such a consensus emerges about a particular ballot, it will be opened, counted, and the revised results will be forwarded to the state's Canvassing Board.

The Court further requires that this process be completed by 4 PM on December 31st. Nothing in the ruling, however, would appear to preclude either campaign from challenging the results of the election at a later date.

The process established by the Supreme Court is likely to be contentious and cumbersome. The sheer number of parties it involves in the process, when coupled with the lack of guidance it provides to them, creates an environment in which fatigue and partisanship are likely to prevail over Minnesota Nice. The most burdensome part of the process, of course, is the requirement that each individual ballot must be mutually agreed upon to have been rejected in error before it is opened and counted.

Not just stupid, downright moronic and time wasting. Who, exactly, is on the Minnesota Supreme Court? Remind me to never support any of them if they get nominated for higher positions.

At least the decisions are to be rendered before each ballot is opened--so presumably the Coleman campaign can't stop supporting counting a ballot because it was a Franken vote, or vice versa.
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« Reply #723 on: December 18, 2008, 11:18:24 PM »

The Star-Tribune is saying that Franken will win by 89 votes.
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« Reply #724 on: December 18, 2008, 11:31:09 PM »

The Star-Tribune is saying that Franken will win by 89 votes.

Well, this is a horrible ending.  Life moves on...
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