Places that love Scotsmen

[platypeanArchcow]

Counties for McGovern and McCain:

Oregon: Coos
California: Plumas, Shasta, Sierra
Arizona: Greenlee
Texas: Cottle
South Dakota: Aurora, Bon Homme, Brule, Charles Mix, Davison, Deuel, Edmunds, Hanson, McCook, Sanborn, Union
Minnesota: Kandiyohi, Morrison, Nobles, Stearns
Missouri: Monroe
Louisiana: West Feliciana
Tennessee: Lewis, Perry, Stewart
Kentucky: Breathitt, Carroll, Floyd, Knott, Morgan
West Virginia: Logan

Wow, McGovern really did rather impressively badly.  That said, I don't have any concept of why Redding and random bits of the Sierra Nevada voted for him.

[Alcon]

My guess is the farm crisis.  I believe Redding's second-biggest industry, behind being an unfettered hellscape, is agro processing.

[NOVA Green]

Coos Co, Oregon was a union stronghold, with the only ILWU presence between Portland and San Fransisco. It also had a large number of active mills, some of which were unionized.

As timber and the Port declined, so did the proportion of the population voting Democrat, and a county which went for McGovern and Mondale shifted into the Republican column with Bush in 2000 and 2004.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

Coos Co, Oregon was a union stronghold, with the only ILWU presence between Portland and San Fransisco. It also had a large number of active mills, some of which were unionized.

As timber and the Port declined, so did the proportion of the population voting Democrat, and a county which went for McGovern and Mondale shifted into the Republican column with Bush in 2000 and 2004.

It's always funny to constrast voting patterns in Oregon and Washington with BC.

[NOVA Green]

Coos Co, Oregon was a union stronghold, with the only ILWU presence between Portland and San Fransisco. It also had a large number of active mills, some of which were unionized.

As timber and the Port declined, so did the proportion of the population voting Democrat, and a county which went for McGovern and Mondale shifted into the Republican column with Bush in 2000 and 2004.

It's always funny to constrast voting patterns in Oregon and Washington with BC.

I'm assuming you are referencing loss of NDP support in BC amongst blue-collar timber voters with similar Democratic communities in the NW over environmental issues?

[Filuwaúrdjan]

Coos Co, Oregon was a union stronghold, with the only ILWU presence between Portland and San Fransisco. It also had a large number of active mills, some of which were unionized.

As timber and the Port declined, so did the proportion of the population voting Democrat, and a county which went for McGovern and Mondale shifted into the Republican column with Bush in 2000 and 2004.

It's always funny to constrast voting patterns in Oregon and Washington with BC.

I'm assuming you are referencing loss of NDP support in BC amongst blue-collar timber voters with similar Democratic communities in the NW over environmental issues?

No; more that voting patterns in BC (especially at provincial level) still cut, and to an extent unusual in North America, mainly down class lines. In contrast to Washington and Oregon.

[NOVA Green]

Coos Co, Oregon was a union stronghold, with the only ILWU presence between Portland and San Fransisco. It also had a large number of active mills, some of which were unionized.

As timber and the Port declined, so did the proportion of the population voting Democrat, and a county which went for McGovern and Mondale shifted into the Republican column with Bush in 2000 and 2004.

It's always funny to constrast voting patterns in Oregon and Washington with BC.

I'm assuming you are referencing loss of NDP support in BC amongst blue-collar timber voters with similar Democratic communities in the NW over environmental issues?

No; more that voting patterns in BC (especially at provincial level) still cut, and to an extent unusual in North America, mainly down class lines. In contrast to Washington and Oregon.

Point... although the decreased level of economic class based voting habits has declined dramatically throughout the US since the early '70s. not just in the PacNW.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

Nixon did better in Kandiyohi in 1960 than 1972. Can't explain that one. Morrison is one of only two counties in Minnesota to swing to McCain, probably thanks to Little Falls becoming a commuter town of sorts to St. Cloud and attracting people who have jobs and connections there but need to get away from "OMG minorities moving in!" but still want to live somewhere with basic amenities. Stearns is a VERY polarized county where Schmitz got almost 7% and swung the county therefore. Basically a relic of back when St. Cloud was the bedrock of Minnesota's conservatives before it became Twin Cities Jr. and all the Nazis moved to the exurbs just to the east. Nobles county is just weird. Its voting patterns never follow any logical pattern. And the cops there suck big time.

[NOVA Green]

Nixon did better in Kandiyohi in 1960 than 1972. Can't explain that one. Morrison is one of only two counties in Minnesota to swing to McCain, probably thanks to Little Falls becoming a commuter town of sorts to St. Cloud and attracting people who have jobs and connections there but need to get away from "OMG minorities moving in!" but still want to live somewhere with basic amenities. Stearns is a VERY polarized county where Schmitz got almost 7% and swung the county therefore. Basically a relic of back when St. Cloud was the bedrock of Minnesota's conservatives before it became Twin Cities Jr. and all the Nazis moved to the exurbs just to the east. Nobles county is just weird. Its voting patterns never follow any logical pattern. And the cops there suck big time.

I know Minneapolis/St Paul had an active Nazi-Skins movement in the '80s/early '90s, but didn't realize the racist right was that large outside of a few small subcultures.

Seriously though, I didn't realize that "White flight" based on racial fear was that big a phenomenon in Minnesota.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

Nixon did better in Kandiyohi in 1960 than 1972. Can't explain that one. Morrison is one of only two counties in Minnesota to swing to McCain, probably thanks to Little Falls becoming a commuter town of sorts to St. Cloud and attracting people who have jobs and connections there but need to get away from "OMG minorities moving in!" but still want to live somewhere with basic amenities. Stearns is a VERY polarized county where Schmitz got almost 7% and swung the county therefore. Basically a relic of back when St. Cloud was the bedrock of Minnesota's conservatives before it became Twin Cities Jr. and all the Nazis moved to the exurbs just to the east. Nobles county is just weird. Its voting patterns never follow any logical pattern. And the cops there suck big time.

I know Minneapolis/St Paul had an active Nazi-Skins movement in the '80s/early '90s, but didn't realize the racist right was that large outside of a few small subcultures.

Seriously though, I didn't realize that "White flight" based on racial fear was that big a phenomenon in Minnesota.

It's not really race so much as people afraid that St. Cloud (or whatever they're fleeing from) is becoming too much of a "big city". St. Cloud is still over 90% white.

I wonder if there was a swing to McCain in northern Stearns...

[??????????]

The south loves anyone that is Irish or Scot or ScotsIrish.

[Nym90]

The south loves anyone that is Irish or Scot or ScotsIrish.

Hence why McGovern swept the South in 1972.

There is quite a Scots-Irish presence in the South though, true enough.

[Brittain33]

The south loves anyone that is Irish or Scot or ScotsIrish.

The Kennedys?

[Third Party]

Counties for McGovern and McCain:

Oregon: Coos
California: Plumas, Shasta, Sierra
Arizona: Greenlee
Texas: Cottle
South Dakota: Aurora, Bon Homme, Brule, Charles Mix, Davison, Deuel, Edmunds, Hanson, McCook, Sanborn, Union
Minnesota: Kandiyohi, Morrison, Nobles, Stearns
Missouri: Monroe
Louisiana: West Feliciana
Tennessee: Lewis, Perry, Stewart
Kentucky: Breathitt, Carroll, Floyd, Knott, Morgan
West Virginia: Logan

Wow, McGovern really did rather impressively badly.  That said, I don't have any concept of why Redding and random bits of the Sierra Nevada voted for him.

Ironically, some of those counties actually have the same names as Scottish clans: Davison, Logan, Monroe, Morrison, and Stewart.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

More Ulster and the Borders than that far north, though. Surname patterns in that part of the world are quite interesting.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

Point... although the decreased level of economic class based voting habits has declined dramatically throughout the US since the early '70s. not just in the PacNW.

Oh true, very true... but the decline has been especially severe in the Pacific Northwest.